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Any arguments against this "redlining" concept they like to bleat about?
posted 5 years ago by realerfunction 5 years ago by realerfunction +31 / -0

Been seeing it a lot lately, wondering if there are any good takedowns of the concept.

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– deleted 45 points 5 years ago +45 / -0
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– current_horror 31 points 5 years ago +31 / -0

Wet streets don't cause rain.

Poverty doesn't cause crime. The same behaviors that lead to poverty also lead to crime.

Edit to add: most of the leftists pushing these insane and idiotic theories about white supremacy and patriarchy keeping everyone else down? I think the Lion's share of these people know they're lying. They just don't care. It's a game they play to secure more resources for themselves and their tribe. It doesn't have to make sense. It only needs to function in redistributing power towards their group.

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– Galean 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

When you cross the street to avoid a group of four black teens walking in your direction

I remember being in London and a team lead there told me that when you are out late and you see a bunch of blacks at night just run the other direction. The guy was born and raised in London.

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– xleb2 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

While we were living in Russia I visited London/Wales. I thought London was more dangerous than Moscow by leaps. I was targeted for ambush on Oxford St and barely dodged it/ Never happened on the Tverskaya.

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– TentElephant 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

London, and Britain in general, has never seen a more violent period in history than right now. Progressives, such as Steven Pinker, will try to pull out a bunch of statistics that show it is the most peaceful using homicide rates, but they fail to account for modern medicine saving so many people from stabbings that would have been lethal over a century ago. At the same time, the British people have never had less access to weaponry.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Steven Pinker is a hyper partisan leftist. He will spin anything in order to protect his party.

Pinker danced like a buffoon to celebrate Biden's "win" and put out the video.

Academics like Pinker are leftist cucks and they should receive zero respect. Being a Harvard professor should be seen as a mark of corruption and shame not worthy of any positive status.

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– 8BitArchitect 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Fucking Detroit has a lower violent crime rate than London.

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– Rasputin_42 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

It’s really more like if you see 4 young people in hoodies in a bad part of town at an odd hour, you should keep your distance.

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– Galean 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Fair enough, but I have a feeling that bad parts are segregated along racial lines. And I think London specifically has a very bad case of bad minority areas with Somali being the dominant faction.

There was an article a while back about how gangs in London not being to keep up with how violent the Somali ones were.

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– Killroyomega 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Hard disagree.

If it's a group of whites they might harass you and on an even lower chance might rob.

Blacks WILL harass you every single time, and the majority of incidences they will attack you unprovoked and rob you.

For anyone who has actually lived in ghetto areas you know the difference.

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– censorthisss 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Also, black owned banks were even less likely to loan money to black people than white owned banks.

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– Killroyomega 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Funny thing people don't know is that black banks used to, and mostly still do, use "nigger-time" as a metric.

Did Jamal show up early for his appointment? Did he come the first time it was set, or did he call two hours later and ask for another day?

If you act like a nigger your loan rating tanks through the floor.

Blacks know the bullshit other blacks pull, because they do it themselves. Whites know it as well because they've all been victim to it, but aren't allowed to use that experience anymore because it's "racist."

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– current_horror 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Blacks don't care about being screwed over by other blacks. Just like they don't care about being murdered by other blacks. Anything that happens within the tribe is the business of the tribe. But any attack from outside the tribe, even if it's absolutely miniscule in comparison? Such an affront must be met with absolute hysteria.

It's really no different than heritage Americans focusing on immigrant crime... except for the part where both immigrant and black crime are insanely more common per capita than white crime, which justifies the nationalist position on these issues.

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– Ahaus667 31 points 5 years ago +31 / -0

Remember the housing market crash due to subprime mortgage lending? That came about in an attempt to fight ‘redlining’. It’s the same arguments that Thomas Sowell blew out of the water decades ago.

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– current_horror 35 points 5 years ago +35 / -0

The deep crimson pill: democrats know perfectly well that their policies don't work - because they are meant not to. Obamacare was meant to destroy our healthcare system. The lockdowns were meant to destroy the middle class. The stimulus packages are meant to create inflation. All of the destruction that follows leftist policy is a feature, not a bug. These people have always talked openly about their desire to tear down society and rebuild it in their own image. Any wonder that all of their policy decisions conveniently move us closer to that goal? Why does anyone trust these monsters to react genuinely to our current crisis?

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– ghostfox1_ 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

This is the correct view.

I don't know why people trust leftists at all.

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– elleand202 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I trust them to make a nice thud after being tossed from a helicopter.

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– the_nybbler 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Redlining was a policy of the Federal Housing Administration that ended in 1967. Most SJWs and NPCs who talk about it don't even know what it was; it was NOT a policy of denying loans to black people. It was a policy of denying Federally-backed loans in neighborhoods which were considered poor risks, for various reasons including the presence of "Negros".

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– TentElephant 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

A better deep dive into this kind of thing is the book White Flight/Black Flight: The Dynamics of Racial Change in an American Neighborhood. It steps over the progressive framework of redlinning and gets into real problems. The short version is that a nice white community will initially see aspirational blacks move in that want to assimilate, then ghetto blacks will start moving in that wreck the place, which causes both the whites and the aspirational blacks to flee as property values plummet.

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– somercet 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Just like school busing in the early 1970s. 97% of whites did not want busing. 92% of blacks didn't, either.

Yet it was imposed.

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– SR388-SAX 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

Then you had the black people who did manage to buy a house on a "good property" and the family would get constant harassment and vandalism by the surrounding white people

Whereas white people who are fortunate enough move in to a black neighborhood are welcomed with nothing but open arms and friendly smiles.

Even granting your premise, which I don't, unless you've got solid numbers to back it up, all you're describing is the same tribalism that every group of humans throughout history has displayed.

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– Knife-TotingRat 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I think it's a matter of, one person said something unkind, and the next thing you know, the person who didn't like what was said is claiming "everyone is always" "saying stuff". And then it becomes "true" in the popular mind, because there was a scene on TV about it, and so on, and so forth.

Just saw this bullshit, second season of Umbrella Academy. Yeah, the whites were yelling .. but they weren't shanking, like the blacks in a blacks-only place would do ...

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– current_horror 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

The second season of umbrella academy was one of the most blatantly woke bait-and-switches I've ever experienced. The first season was like a behind-the-music documentary about a dysfunctional team of retired child superheroes. Then they used time travel to turn the second season into a multi-arc history lecture about intersectional oppression. The white people of the south are cartoon caricatures of racism, the lesbian who destroys her family to fuck a trans girl is a hero, the tragicly doomed romance is literally super gay, and the new most powerful character is obviously a woman of color. I suffered through it for the story of Five, which is genuinely compelling thanks to a legitimately great performance. I will probably give season 3 about two episodes to ditch the socjus.

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– Knife-TotingRat 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, that's what I'm getting out of it. I like Five and Pogo, and that's about it now.

Oh, and don't forget they also had to slip a fucking retard kid in there, too.

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– SR388-SAX 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

That's not the data I was talking about. I was referring specifically to the treatment of black neighbors by white people vs the treatment of white neighbors by black people.

Also, you're ignoring the fact that the only reason that the wealth "accumulates" in the "white" communities vs. "black" communities homes is that the people who live in them set the fucking value. If your community is shit, properties in it will be worth shit. The only people who can fix the communities are the people who live in them. Even if black people were forced to live in their own communities and denied every single opportunity to move out of them, all they have to do is not turn them into a crime ridden hell hole.

Now if you want to talk about the cycle of poverty and how welfare (from Democrats) has reinforced that, and how incentivizing fatherless homes leads to all kinds of problems, and that none of this is race specific, then sure. We can have that discussion. But the reason black wealth has stagnated isn't because of "white people" or "redlining" or any of that shit.

And if you want to bring up Black Wall Street and how it got destroyed, all I have to say is, well, where's Black Wall Street 2? You're telling me that because a hundred years ago there was a race war between a couple of small towns and the white people won, that black people everywhere in the US have just given up? Because, despite all the data pointing in the opposite direction, black people are just too afraid of white people to try again? Fuck off.

So sorry, but I do not grant a single one of your premises. You're just hand-waving and ignoring the actual problem.

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