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Justice for Black Farmers Act from Cory Booker and Elizabeth Warren (nationalfile.com)
posted 5 years ago by dr_k42 5 years ago by dr_k42 +49 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor 36 points 5 years ago +36 / -0

South Africa style land theft?

What a fucking disgrace.

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– randomuser88385 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Not quite. I think in this case the "black" (I need to review the bill to see how they define it) farmers would take the land and loans, spend the loans, then sell the land, spend that money too, default on the loans.

The coup de grâce would be that the default of the loans and "loss" of farm would then be used as further proof of racism against black farmers.

I for one, can't wait to see how this plays out.

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– exilde 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

So, like South Africa?

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– Galean 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

A country that was created around the concept of freedom and we get this crap? Is there anything in the constitution that would defend against it? Not that it would matter if the rats get the senate.

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– Skywise 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

The constitution.

The law says that government can only appropriate occupied land if it has a fair public need and must pay an appropriate market rate to the owner to do so.

In addition this act would violate the civil rights law of 1963 by discriminating by race.

I don’t see why he doesn’t just offer land grants or interest free loans to the poor.

But then this isn’t about helping out the poor...

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– w-duranty6489 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

The constitution.

So it's gonna pass in every Democrat run area then.

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– Galean 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

" a fair public need " without definition it can be anything. They are already claiming that "systematic racism"™ is the worst thing ever. Covid may be the plague that kills us all but it is not as important as systematic racism.

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– Norenia 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

What Black Farmers?

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– Skywise 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

To be fair I know of a few.

Honestly why he doesn’t just rescind licensing, taxes and business regulations on black businesses in the cities escapes me.

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– w-duranty6489 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

They get all their advice from Das Kapital.

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– TentElephant 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You assume they want to help blacks. A dependent voter is a dependable voter.

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– Eldourado 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

South Africa is the destiny of every white minority nation in an African majority demography. Although the US is more an African \ Latino one.

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– deleted 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0
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– Smith1980 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

I could swear I remember a concept that my parents taught me about looking at the individual and not obsessing about race.

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– ButterBadger 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Those days are dead and buried.

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– Smith1980 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Sad but true although I still consider myself colorblind despite what the woke mafia says.

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– deleted 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0
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– Smith1980 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Well there are great people in all races and we need to stand up to those who profit off of race hustling

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– realerfunction 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

guess it was just a vehicle to weaken you while they were getting ready.

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– BrainJuice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Sounds like Nazism

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– MetalGearMk3 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

I don't think I have ever seen a black farmer and I have been to alot of different farms across the u.s

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– Smith1980 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I had some ancestors of mine who were farmers but they are all long gone. The last one in my family was an uncle who had a lot of land in Oklahoma. I may still have some cousins who are farmers in East Texas. I'm honestly just tired of the obsession with race by the usual suspects.

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– SR388-SAX 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I had some ancestors of mine who were farmers but they are all long gone

Same could be said for nearly everybody of every ethnicity. Most people were farmers up until the 1900s and the industrial revolution.

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– Smith1980 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Very true. I only have a few cousins now who farm

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– spezpedobestfriend 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0
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– M1919A2 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Being someone that owns farmland they'd likely seize....yep. That's the day you see people taking up arms and it hits the fan.

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– spezpedobestfriend 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0
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– M1919A2 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You have to look at the wording.

(a) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall—(1) purchase from willing sellers, at price not greater than fair market value, available agricultural land in the United States

Later on they go on to say they must make at least 20,000 land grants per year for 2021 - 2030 with each grant being no more than 160 acres. They earmark $8B per year in order to purchase land. If they do the minimum number of grants they only have the funds to offer about $2750 an acre. Outside of an area of Northern Missouri, I've not seen good farmland sell for under $5,000 an acre these days. We recently bought 100 acres for $4300 an acre and only 84 acres of that is tillable. Even then it's going to be about $800 an acre to clear a house site, put in an additional well, and regrade the front 50.

No one is going to sell their land willingly for half what they can get on the open market. And that's not prime farmland. Prime farmland in places like Iowa is going for $8,000 an acre and other places it's over $10,000 an acre.

So then we come to the In General part. The secretary should buy from willing sellers, however they are required by law to offer at least 20,000 grants per year. If they can't buy that land how do you think they'll be getting it? Well there's an interesting clause earlier in the bill about documenting "corporate farms". What is a "corporate farm"? Well the IRS considered any farm making more than $250,000 per year in revenue (that number may have changed recently but last time I had to look into it), not profit, to be a large scale farming operation. And every farmer around us, including us, had land in Trusts and operated under a LLC for liability reasons. When we got out of the business of farming ourselves we sold the LLC, and the equipment it owned, to our staff and they continue to farm our land under a lease.

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– GoofTroop186 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Now the blacks can hire the illegal, Mexican slaves too

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– w-duranty6489 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

How diverse.

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– kratomlol 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I saw a black farmer working the stables once. But it was in a movie.

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– censorthisss 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

The GOP better have their shit together for these Georgia runoffs....

We wuz farmers and sheeit

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– browarrior1950 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

If the races were reversed, there would have been riots...

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– current_horror 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Thank God we avoided those particular riots, huh?

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– M1919A2 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Reading through the bill it looks like they want to do at least 20,000 land grants of up to 160 acres per farmer from land purchased from "willing sellers". They've earmarked $80 Billion for this. If I did the maths right that's at most about $2750 an acre the government would pay for land. Outside of northern Missouri I don't know anywhere else that has decent farmland going for below $4000 an acre market price right now. I know because I just bought another 100 acres last month.

But that's the land and 160 acres isn't enough to make it these days. A small family farm is pushing 3000 acres. Regular guys now are farming 8000 acres and the big guys are farming between 15,000 - 20,000 acres around us.

On top of that you need equipment. Even a used combine is going to run you over $200,000. Used ag tractors in good shape are going to run about $100,000 ea. Plus you need to have another hundred grand in cash for when something breaks. Last time our combine broke down in field it was a $40,000 repair. It takes anywhere from $700 - $1200 an acre to plant most common row crops like Soybeans, Corn, etc.. That's cash you have to have on hand. It took us about $1.8M in cash to plant 2800 acres give or take each year.

Yeah...you want to start a civil war....this would do it.

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