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DemolitionsPanda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Except how you don't.

Are you saying that it isn't possible to measure and then simulate a robot doing sophisticated manufacturing work?

Here is a video of a robot following a program that was created by algorithm and then tested in simulation, before manufacturing a real, usable product.

https://youtu.be/CL-I-RvMeAU

You will notice that it is fourteen years old.

Autodesk makes Fusion 360 a product specifically designed and built to run CNC machines, which includes accurate simulators. There are tens of thousands of videos of both the simulation and then the actual cutting of parts. Go and look!

Now why do you think that this process can't be used to grade Neural Network output?

Is it that you don't know that CNC tools are robots? Or that you think that the same techniques can't be applied to a six axis robot arm with a tool? Is that your issue?

https://youtu.be/Hze1D_B2ui4

Here is a three year old video of a robot arm using cold spray additive manufacturing to print a solid copper rocket nozzle bell housing. The tool paths were generated by algorithm and then simulated before the print.

Where do you think I said that robots would be able to repair themselves? Can you highlight that for me?

Why would replacing technicians that do repairs on equipment be more important than actually NN tools to reduce the cost of the design, manufacturing and assembly of parts?

It really seems like you are responding to an argument I didn't make.

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DemolitionsPanda 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can't quite fathom the confusion of thinking that would cause you to make this comment.

It is exactly like pointing to the steam train and saying "Well, it doesn't do naval transport!."

So what?

If you can build a knowable robotics assembly cell. That is, a cell with a robot tool in it, for which the calibration, control systems, physical distances etc are known. Then you can put that information into a simulator and then use it to grade the responses of Deep Learning Neural Networks.

Yeah, some robotics tools will be better than others, and some will be more capable than others. You can simulate that too! Now you have the potential to test a million robotic work cells, and do it all before you spend your first dollar on physical robots. You can even optimize designing robots to build other, better robots and bootstrap a tool chain.

Suddenly assembling the parts of a robot bunny becomes a software problem. It is scalable and measurable. You can recruit computer network arrays to simulate the work and grade it, then give that feedback to the NN.

Now complex problems of robot manufacturing can be approached with exactly the same tools that is having Deep Learning Neural Networks paint like Rembrandt or write novels like Joke Rowling.

Look, it does not matter if you believe me or not. It is coming down the pipe. Just sit back and relax.

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DemolitionsPanda 2 points ago +2 / -0

I genuinely promise you that high resolution physics engines exist right now to simulate robots. You feed them movement code and they simulate the operations of the robot in extraordinary detail. This is used to test code without running a real robot manufacturing process.

Using software like this would give high quality feedback to train a Deep Learning Neural Network.

If someone isn't doing it today, they will be by the end of the year.

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DemolitionsPanda 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are misunderstanding me.

Electric Motor Manufacturing, for more than a hundred years, has been primarily concerned with bending iron and copper into the correct shapes, then piecing them together into a functional motor. A good example of this would be the Universal Motor, which is a very old design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_motor

There are no electronic parts in one of these.

Another example would be the brushed motor.

https://www.linquip.com/blog/brushed-dc-motor/

Again, no electronic parts required.

These are being replaced by smaller, more efficent brushless motors which have electronic controllers that are both very sophisticated and cost more than the (now smaller) physical motor.

The Electric Motor industry is being transformed into a small, auxiliary industry which services the electronics manufacturer.

Brushless motors with sophisticated electronic speed control are fundamentally different to the motors of old, and they offer vast advantages. More to the point, they are less expensive when considering Total Cost of Ownership.

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DemolitionsPanda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Simulation. Specifically a high resolution simulation in a physics engine.

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DemolitionsPanda 8 points ago +8 / -0

On one hand I agree with every point.

On the other hand, entire industries will go the way of the dodo, just like the watchmaker and buggy-whip manufacturer.

People who are skilled with tools or (gasp) design will have transferable skills can easily retrain, but not all of them.

For example the advent of synchronous, variable torque, variable speed eclectic motors has turned electric motor manufacture from something involving a hundred dollars of bent bits of iron and copper to sixty dollars of electronics and forty dollars of iron and copper. Before it was all mechanical processes and a hundred year old designs. Now it is an electronic manufacturer who also does a little bit of coil winding.

You are literally watching the electrical motor industry vanish.

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DemolitionsPanda 8 points ago +8 / -0

I know a team that can literally solve this problem. They are currently working on other things, but they exist as a team working in the robotics field.

There is an intermediary step which can turn robotics applications into a purely software product. Once you can do that, you can close the loop and have AI write then test robotics applications. After that it is just a matter of clever neural networks and iteration.

You are going to have to break down robotics operations into smaller, more specific parts for the AI to do; but this has been a concept in software engineering since day 1. The above post just did that with micro-services for his app.

This technology will give a workshop worth 1/2 a million dollars access to the same economies of scale as a million dollar production line. The workshop will be able to apply those manufacturing force multipliers to a hundred products, not one single product rolling off the million dollar production line.

If it plays out the way I imagine, it will be a manufacturing revolution which will shift productivity and the gains of that value down the food chain from billionaires to millionaires. Twelve motivated twenty year olds could design and launch a product that has hardware literally better than the flagship iPhone. They could manufacture hundreds of units for the same unit prices that apple is manufacturing tens of thousands. We could see a market place with a thousand models of flagship phones.

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DemolitionsPanda 2 points ago +2 / -0

The biggest drain, especially in cases like California, is illegal aliens. They are given the same emergency care as citizens; which is also paid for by the state if the alien can't pay.

So you have huge communities of undocumented illegal aliens who may or may not speak English (they mostly don't), who probably are not paying tax (because they work for cash) and can't afford insurance. They get really sick too. I know this because one of my brother's groomsmen is living in LA and attempting to organize state run health programs for them; because it is vastly cheaper than not running health programs. Personally I think it would be cheaper still to kick them all out ... but California.

In Australia if an alien just makes up a SSN (Australians have a "Tax File Number" but it is the same) then the tax contribution are paid for by the employer and they never get a tax refund. They are also not entitled to any government services that are paid for by tax. So the Single Payer Government Insurance Scheme (Medicare) which pays for all of an Aussie's medical costs is not available to them. If they go to a government hospital (almost all of them are) then they must pay for the costs of their own treatment.

Don't get me wrong, the treatment is affordable compared to the USA. A night in hospital with a high level of care is something like AU$1000. In the USA it would be a miracle to pay less than US$15,000 and pay US$40 each for a paracetamol tablet.

The Australian Taxation Office (ATO is the Aussie IRS) won't look to kick out working aliens; because they pay a lot of tax that they don't spend. Hospitals won't report aliens, because doing so would stop people from seeking care, which results in ambulances and emergency care, which costs 5X. Mostly the small number of illegal aliens here are from English speaking countries like the USA and the UK. The first time they are arrested for anything they get deported.

I think the biggest hurdle to sorting out the USA's health care system is that illegal immigration really has to be solved first.

The UK has bulk, legal immigration, and as a result the UK National Health Service is buckling under the strain. People arrive from overseas with (comparatively) poor health, later in life (30 or whatever) and require a lot of care, all in London. It doesn't matter how much money the UK government dumps into the NHS, it is never enough.

As for Canada, I am sure that there are minority populations that require disproportionate health spending. For example Native Canadian communities have high unemployment and low health. They don't pay much tax and they do require a lot of care.

In general a WELL RUN Government, Single Payer Health Insurance plan is more efficent and delivers a better service ... but how you get there from where the USA is now is impossible. It just can't be done. Even if it was done, I don't think that the controlling factions of US politics would have any interest in running it well.

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DemolitionsPanda 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or that some Gingers have curly hair. Red, curly hair is a thing.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=natural%20red%20curly%20hair&first=1

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DemolitionsPanda 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are correct that exact figures are not available. You are right, taxes don't work that way. They are not directly earmarked for use on collection, rather they go into general revenue.

However efforts have been made to study the population wide effects of smoking. Smoking remains the #1 cause of preventable major illness.

From a public health perspective, it is cut and dried. Non smokers can work longer and be more productive, pay more tax and do more volunteer work. Raising taxes and preventing cheap imports forces smokers to pay closer to the actual costs of their addiction. In accounting terms they are required to internalize the costs of their decisions, rather than externalizing the costs to society as a whole.

Here is an article from 2019.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/professional/smoking-costs-australia-close-to-137-billion

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DemolitionsPanda 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even with paying for a neighbors health, Australia has a tax spend of less than 1/2 per citizen than the USA.

The USA has state funding for emergency life-saving care for everyone, even non-citizens. Hospitals are required to give care to emergency patients and then sort out the funding later.

What happens is that people who can't afford preventative care or even timely treatment wait until they are almost dead. Now it is an emergency. They present to hospital, and care is given. It is the most expensive care and the most serious interventions. The hospital provides just enough care that they won't die in the next day or so. They are discharged from hospital. They leave.

They come back. It is an emergency again. More of the most expensive treatment is provided. This continues until they literally die. The bills are sent to the state government.

Right now you are getting the worst of both worlds. Medical care is being provided to everyone, just in a way that is most profitable for hospitals and the worst way for taxpayers.

Canada has found a way around the treatment loop. They just euthanize people who present too often for emergency care.

The way Australia does it allows tax dollars to be spent on GP care, which is less than 1/4 of the cost of hospital care for the services that GPs provide. It allows public health programs, like vaccinations (actual vaccines, not Phizzer "therapeutics") contraception and dental care for grade school kids.

The Aussie system isn't perfect, but it (right now) gives a lot better value than the tax being taken from your wages.

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DemolitionsPanda 5 points ago +5 / -0

Unless you have an archival quality copy of a book printed on acid free paper, you are out of luck.

Modern paperbacks and most hardbacks are printed on paper treated with aluminum sulfate. Over time the aluminum sulfate reacts with water in the air (humidity) to become aluminum oxide and sulfuric acid. The acid turns the pages yellow and eats the glue that holds the binding together. Single pages start to fall out, and eventually the paper becomes too yellow to read.

How long the process takes depends on the humidity of the environment, but almost all books will be heavily damaged after 20 years.

Almost all books go out of print forever after the death of the author. Only a tiny percentage of books stay in print after the author can no longer advocate for the books and is not writing more to make their back catalog relevant. 99% of all writing just ... disappears after a generation.

Want to change that? Start scanning books. Sort them by category and upload them in a Torrent. Textbooks, fiction, SF, whatever. You can fit a thousand OCR books in a torrent, and hopefully it will be persistent.

https://www.amazon.com.au/IRIS-5-PRO-Iriscan-Desk/dp/B07VGTG6ZG/

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DemolitionsPanda 2 points ago +2 / -0

Australia increases the taxation on cigarettes regularly. It is about AU$40 a packet or so, depending on the brand. That works out to about $1 a cigarette.

All cigarettes are in the same coloured brown packets with regulations on the markings and font on the outside. All the packets and all the cigarettes look the same.

The Australian Taxpayer has to pay for end of life medical care. The government just keeps raising the tax to pay for the two years of cancer treatment and/or heart failure treatment for smokers. The high taxes on cigarettes just about covers the direct costs now.

The opportunity cost of smoking is really high. People roll their own tobacco (which is slightly cheaper, especially if they roll them very thin) or they quit.

I can imagine that it would be a lot harder to enact this strategy in countries that did not have such effective border control.

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DemolitionsPanda 3 points ago +3 / -0

There is a charity on the corner up the block than hands out free meals for breakfast and dinner.

The result is addicts as far as the eye can see. They spend 100% of their government payments on their addiction, and they all sleep in nearby parks.

At what point is charity enabling poor behavior?

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DemolitionsPanda 2 points ago +2 / -0

Guy, you learn the difference between Civil Law and Criminal Law in civics class. Or perhaps "Legal Studies" In high school.

It is a distinction that has profound impact and is very much germane to the issue at hand.

You know that you are making a semantics argument, right? Then arguing for a definition that is literally wrong.

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DemolitionsPanda 9 points ago +9 / -0

Or he could found a new company, poach Veritas' donors and get back on mission. It is an either / or.

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DemolitionsPanda 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've been very patient with you Tony.

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I respect women just fine. I certainly don't think they are a universal evil.

But to turn a blind eye to their faults is beyond stupid. I am done making that mistake.

France, as a whole collaborated.

Bullshit.

The Germans could not have occupied France with ten times the troops. If the farmers had just sat down and refused to work, it would have been insurmountable. Even the tiny, tiny French Resistance made a real impact.

The French Police helped to deport French Jews to their deaths.

Is the Smithsonian a good enough source for you?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/vichy-government-france-world-war-ii-willingly-collaborated-nazis-180967160/

The Vichy French Authoritarian Government made use of the German Occupation to advance their own political goals and to consolidate power. In the beginning they had popular support.

I am certainly not painting French women in any better light than the French men of the time. However choosing to sleep with and have children with Nazi officers to gain social standing and resources is particularly odious to me. French women are certainly not unique in history in this regard.

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DemolitionsPanda 1 point ago +1 / -0

So debate the points. You don't get to write off Imp's claim just because he used hyperbole.

France, as a whole collaborated. Many women were notable in that the were keen to collaborate for social position and resources.

Collaboration certainly ran a spectrum, and there were literally war trials after the French liberation to have the worst of them face repercussions for their behavior.

Certainly Coco Chanel was a gleeful collaborator, and she escaped trial because she fled to Switzerland.

I am not going to look up French war trials for you. I am not going to baby-step you through examples to have you complain that they are not good enough.

The Imp is pointing out a trend in female behavior that pre-dates the Romans. Women like winners and are often motivated by hypergamy, even to the extremes of collaborating with enemies.

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DemolitionsPanda 4 points ago +4 / -0

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6276919/Sleeping-enemy-Fascinating-pictures-Women-Nazi-occupied-Europe.html

Plus dozens of other popular articles, just a single web search away.

Tony, it really is a matter of public record. The French make a big deal about their resistance, but the vast majority were collaborators. The most prominent collaborators were women.

Coco Chanel, who launched the brand Chanel, was an enthusiastic collaborator. She slept with a Nazi officer and leveraged her vast network of social contacts to help the Nazis play politics. In return her fashion business did very well.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/coco-chanel-traitor-nazi-spy-4744650

It is easy to find pictures of French women being marched through the streets for sleeping with Nazis.

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/french-female-collaborator-punished-head-shaved-publicly-mark-1944/

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DemolitionsPanda 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'd settle for people starting to notice that mothers kill their children at a much higher rate than fathers ever do.

Revoke the Tender Years Doctrine. Give men custody by default. Let women negotiate for access.

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DemolitionsPanda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Imp is clearly MGTOW. He seems to be building his financial position and advancing career.

I think he realizes it takes a consistent effort to overcome the base nature of men and to treat women as the social equivalent of toxic waste.

I mean, if you don't want to have sex with women, and you have no interest in a relationship, why would you even bother to throw rocks at them? The chances of a positive outcome from any interaction is basically zero; and women have both the motivation and the power to ruin a man's life forever.

Sure he is bombastic, but so what? It is infinitely preferable to one more fucking simp or apologist.

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DemolitionsPanda 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or perhaps he is noticing that every facet of society, every minute of our life is influenced by the dominant social paradigm and the 50 % of the population (men and women) who advance that cause.

Imp is over the top, but is he wrong? We are in the process of literally sacrificing the most successful countries on earth to appease the female need for special treatment.

Pair Bonding has been going on between men and women for literally a million years. It is now untenable today in most English speaking countries.

Is he really overreacting? How hurt and angry should he be?

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DemolitionsPanda 3 points ago +3 / -0

Society is demonstrably gynocentric. Women and the happiness and comfort of women is a major motivating factor in the way that society is arranged. In the past women were a protected class. Today women have all the rights of men and special treatment in many, many circumstances.

Feminism states that:

The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpation on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Sentiments

It goes on to call "Tyranny" the financial support of women by their fathers and then their husbands; seeking to bring about and end to both the nuclear family and traditional marriage.

Feminism is the DOMINANT political paradigm in the west.

So not only is society arranged mostly for the benefit of women; at the same time women have convinced the world that they are the victims of total subjugation and have worked for nearly 130 years to destroy the very foundations of that society; with much success.

ALL women benefit from this. None I have seen are keen to hand back any of the power or benefits that the political movement has granted them.

So Imp is insane for noticing?

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