I'm new to the ant-SJW community and I am confused by why many Soyboys are typically associated with the Nintendo Switch Ninendo doesn't appear to be pro-Social Justice and, unlike Sony, generally keeps out of politics. What are your thoughts on the console and why is it associated with SoyBoys?
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It's based off a Reddit post where a guy agreed to be cucked in exchange for one IIRC.
It's also an evolution of the soycuck whose whore wife left him and took the Wii meme.
At least I'm not Anthony Burch. Good times.
Wait, that really did happen?
I'm pretty sure. If not that, something very similar.
look for my wife's boyfriend memes
I think part of it is based off the fact that these soycucks are emotionally stunted people. They are emotionally, psychologically, and developmentally children due to the conditioning and abuse of the Social Justice Racket. Not too different from how a child who is sexually assaulted or raped as a child has a significantly stunted psychological or sexual development from the rape.
They all end up having a horrible kind of "Peter Pan" syndrome where they really need to learn how to grow up, but never have, and are actually conditioned not to. This infantilization can express itself in a whole litany of deviant or pathological behaviors, but a pretty common one is to obsess over youth and childhood.
While Nintendo platform games aren't strictly for children, Nintendo heavily leans into franchises aimed at children and tweens (Zelda, Mario, Starfox, etc). This is where the soyboys tend to demonstrate emotional incontinence as a replacement for "child-like wonder". This is why they virtue-signal the over-exaggerated "soyface".
I would also argue that these same soyboys and SJWs have had such a stunted development that they actually haven't necessarily learned all the basic emotional and psychological lessons towards growing up and socialization that childhood cartoons and figures are primarily designed for. If they are exposed to basic developmental lessons in "Children's Programming" that they have never learned, it can be quite useful and important for them. This is why they might try to focus on it: because they might subconsciously understand that they missed some developmental step.
It's true. Games are a very important part of life, they are a safe "training ground" for people to hone their skills before they need to apply them seriously. In terms of sports they can act as competitions without violence, so people can still end up feeling victory and defeat. This is where the "games are just for kids" mindset comes from.
A person who's 20 years old and still riding a bike with training wheels is a failure.
That's why it's an insult for people to be saying "all video games should have an easy mode!" because they are basically saying "all bikes should have training wheels" which is nonsensical.
You can see people's obsession with young adult literature and superhero movies as similar symptoms of arrested development.
Agreed, but I think part of the problem here is that this isn't an accident. Take a more extreme example: if you saw a 13 year old boy that talked like a toddler and wore diapers, you could say a few things:
You could say that he was stupid and didn't learn how to be potty-trained. Maybe, but at 13, the kid would have to be significantly mentally disabled. If he seems like a coherent 13 year old, something worse has happened.
You could say that his parents failed him, and didn't teach him right. But that wouldn't make sense either. Again, at 13, he would be ashamed to not be potty-trained, he would never be able to be with friends, he would even realize something was wrong by himself. He would probably have gotten infections. His neurological development alone would compel him to find a way out of his untenable situation.
But what you should say, and what you should recognize when his mother says, "My precious baby boy is perfect" is that the child is being horrifically abused. The child is being manipulated into acting like a baby in order to satisfy the needs and desires of his parents.
My contention is that they soy-boys are not simple failures, you can't accidentally generate that many developmental failures in a natural system. No, they are abused. They are conditioned. This is something that has been done to them by a form of institutional conditioning that has infantalized them, for the profit of those institutions. The narcissism that they are taught is meant to counter the perpetual feeling of inadequacy, failure, and oppression they genuinely feel from their institutionalized abuse. But their abusers have weaponized that agitation and inadequacy as something to deliver upon their enemies. Not too dissimilar from a cop who removes a child from an abusive family, and is bitten by the kid who is protesting being taken away from the thing that he has been taught is the only person in the world that would protect or love him at all.
It's not just that they are failures. It's that there are people and things that wanted them to be failures, and then made them into failures.
I've noticed that a lot of boys with single mother homes are treated as "the man" of the household. They're both a child and an adult friend to the single parent so the childhood habits just blend into the adult habits and it appears normal to them.
I'm not OP but that could be considered a different type of condidtioning, maybe even the reverse type as the one previously stated. Acting "grown up" from a young age usually signifies a environment where the child was told and given responsibilities that some his peers wouldn't experience until later in life, like possibly working at a family business or raising his younger siblings. Sometimes this maybe due to a single-parent household and poverty, but it may also be due to parental abuse, with the mother thinking it's the child's job to grow up, maybe giving them difficult or impossible tasks and then berating the child for not doing them perfectly. The parent gives the child too much agency for their actions; when you're smal land weak and relatively unskilled, you can't do that much. Soyboy conditioning I think is somewhat the opposite. It's often the symptom of helicopter parenting, where the mother does EVERYTHING for the child to a manic level. The mother gives them NO agency, so they continually act like a child. If you never have to cook for yourself, then you never learn to, and you become 30-year-old virgin who can button mash like a pro but can barely make a bowl of Mac and Cheese.
Yes, that would be a very bad substitution.
To be fair, it's important not to underestimate the degree to which the soy contingent simply overlaps with general purpose hipsters as well, congregating to Nintendo simply because of it's cultural relevance and perceived ease of access.
I always thought they flocked to Nintendo because it's well known and even your average games journalist can play Animal Crossing or Mario so they can say "Yeah I'm a gamer",
Fair enough. The mass conformist culture of the Social Justice Racket will virtue signal for easy status gains.
Owning a switch doesn’t make you a cuck, letting other guys rail your wife so you can play it does.
I guess the switch is the least shitty console you could buy, I still kind of have a soft spot for Nintendo after all these years. I’m done with consoles period though, and there just aren’t enough good games on the switch to convince me to buy one.
Honestly, as much as I'm gaming more now than I have in ages, we're in something of a dry period. With that in mind, the indie gaming industry in general is something of an oasis and when it comes to triple A, Nintendo are supposedly one of the few to really be endearing themselves.
That's two major arguments for the switch above the rest of the industry, right there, as it's the only place for Nintendo primary games, but they've also been rather famously good for the indies in the last few years, compared to the other consoles to varying degrees.
I associate Nintendo more with little kids then soycucks
That's the heart of the association right there. A grown ass man that's into children's entertainment has something wrong with him.
But go on and be very grown up, auntie
There is a difference between fantastical content that CS Lewis was referring to and the infantilizing pandering of Nintendo.
CS Lewis was speaking of literature like Grimms fairy tales, JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings ( though, maybe not specifically. I'm not sure the time table on the quote), or Charles Dickens works. Things that are not immediately beneficial to a man's pursuits but otherwise wholesome.
Ninetendo puts out mind-numbing, easy-to-digest distractions. They are full of colorful lights and pretty pictures and assurances that "You're great! You win!"
They are not even close to being comparable. Add on top of that, if you told CS Lewis you were spending a weeks wages on the same childish material you already owned because they made the colors brighter and the game play easier, I'm sure he would have a different quote for you.
You didn't understand the quote did you? Lewis didn't talk about specific content here, he talked about people. He talked about people like you that have a desire to proclaim how adult they are and how they, as very grown up persons wouldn't do childish things. It's like with the quote about the king
What I'm saying is that the quote doesn't apply universally to everything one could call childish.
If you said "I still shit my pants and that's ok, it's not childish" no one would back you up and say that's an acceptable behavior for adults to engage in.
(Actually, there is an entire community online that would, but that is beside the point)
Mankind was created to find certain things acceptable to children and off-putting in adults. I believe that this is one of them, even if the wider community does not. I would not seek to partner myself with a man who's life is characterized by an addiction to an un-challenging game system.
The quote applies to anyone that has to proclaim how not childish he is. Again, it doesn't matter what specific "childish" thing you are talking about, it only matters that you have a need to tell and show how grown up you are. If you were mature you would just ignore things that you are not interested in. But you can't, you have to tell us how not childish you are and how childish it would be to enjoy Nintendo-games and how you are not enjoying Nintendo-games because that would be childish, which you are so very not.
Also: Who made you the arbiter of what is acceptable?
I did.
Yep bayonetta is super kid friendly and clearly meant only to be played by 10 and under same with doom, darksouls, hollowknight, etc.
Nintendo nostalgia coincidentally came up the same time as the millennials that make up soyboys did. Because of their COONSUME mindset, it often creates an obsessive fan. See, Moviebob and Mario.
There is nothing that directly links them imo, its just two things existing at the same time and therefore happen to be linked by that. Mixed with a bit of their "child aimed" reputation.
I have a Switch because Nintendo has become the leader in not censoring games.
It's a meme that is rapidly wearing out its welcome, along with Soyjack.
The wife lets me play celeste (hidden gem) when her boyfriend comes over to play smash bros irl
I think it was more about the soyboys who wamted to be hipsters on Reddit. There wasn't anything specific they were playing until they got Animal Crossing. After they got Animal Crossing, they started really locking that down.
I'm just waiting on Shin Megami Tensei. I haven't played on my Switch a lot because it barely has any games that are appealing to me.
Nintendo is casual. Both in terms of accessibility to games, and in terms of their image, so it doesn't bear the same stigma as the rest of the hobby to these people.
I think the Switch is pretty good, but it's got it's problems:
The online experience is still lacking. I can't just add friends to my list and be done with it - I need to add them to every single game we want to play together.
Joycon drift is a real problem. This is especially a problem because new official Joycons cost $80.
Once again, a lot of cool third party games are coming to everything EXCEPT the Switch. I've got a PC, but sometimes I'd like to play it on Switch.
This past year's been pretty slim pickings.
I think in a way it's main exclusive games are not only more immature or childish, but also seem to have an extremely obsessed cult (of adults) that worship them. It's not particularly a trend specific to Nintendo. Sony, for example, has their Naughty Dog / The Last of Us cult that worships the ground they walk on. It's just that when you see a lot of soy boys, Mario, Zelda, Harry Potter (not Switch I know but I think an example you see outside of gaming), Pokemon, are part of these people's identities. Add in also the fact that Animal Crossing turned into not a kids game but basically a place for leftists to make their pretend utopia. It's just that the Switch library is where these people's obsessions gravitate.
To be clear, I think it's important for every adult to keep a bit of their inner child alive and not be afraid of enjoying games, movies, whatever even if it's more intended for kids. Hell, I might could even argue that some of it would be better to enjoy than the shitshow a lot of "adult" media has become. Not everything an adult does has to revolve around being a serious adult that only drinks black coffee and straight bourbon. The key difference is enjoying a fine piece of fictional entertainment versus making these characters, factions, whatever a key part of your identity.
I'm not ashamed at all to admit I've enjoyed building things in Minecraft or playing a Zelda game, but that's just something I do at home for fun. Everyone needs low effort downtime in their life and I think most adults fill that time with TV. I watch very little TV and choose instead video games and books of whatever type I find fun. The rest of the time when I'm doing adult things I don't wear my creeper hat, triforce t-shirt, and carry a diamond sword keychain. Because I'm not my 5 year old nephew.
Nintendo is currently playing everything so safe as to be boring, which makes them perfect for the kind of people who have no standards and just want to turn their brains off. As a long-time Nintendo fan, It honestly makes me depressed to see what they've become....
When it comes to games like Breath of the Wild I completely disagree, they took a large risk with that game. It was a Zelda game with no dungeons, and your weapons constantly broke, and it was still very fun. Not perfect, but very enjoyable.
When it comes to Mario though, they are becoming quite boring. I did not enjoy Mario Odyssey very much.
I had the opposite experience. Breath of the Wild was a huge risk that left me hugely disappointed. Its generic open world banking on Zelda title to carry it. I replay the Orcarina/Majora/Windwaker games often but never even bother getting off the plateau when I try it.
But Odyssey was great because it didn't risk anything. It was a platformer that focused on being a platformer with a lot to collect. What more did I need?
BotW has freedom of exploration unlike any other game to me. You can climb up a mountain, look off into the distance and go anywhere you want. That alone has incredible amounts of power to it. Even if the rest of the game is lacking in parts, that single element shining is enough to make me happy.
Mario Odyssey on the other hand claimed to be like 64 and Sunshine, but all I found was a hidden object hunt. No real exploration at all. It would have probably been better if it was just linear levels instead of the weak worlds they ended up making.
The problem is, once you reach the peak of the mountain its just another generic shrine. It has a handful of areas that are unique and great, but most all exploration just rewards that. I, personally, find no value in exploring just for giggles constantly. I want there to be something tangible to it at some points. But BotW gives you nearly nothing but gear you will lose shortly or hearts that would have taken 25% of the time in previous games.
Lots of style and shine, little substance.
Odyssey also had some of the strongest linear levels within its worlds. I loved all those challenges, especially the super hard ones on the moon. You could probably just track those down and ignore most of the overworlds and complete the game. One of the benefits of their "so many fucking moons" design. Some worlds were too big I will agree though, I liked the smaller ones.
Different design philosophies, I guess. Fitting, given that was literally what separated the two projects back on the nes, during development, given the weird way Nintendo actually developed things.
I've not yet played either, I may yet try both. I absolutely love the odyssey song Jump Up Superstar though, so that's a Mario win either way.
What can I say, I'm a sucker for a bit of Jazz.
Both are worth trying. BotW might be your cup of tea and if so its likely gonna be a favorite. But it isn't for me. I also found Skyrim to be a boring piece of garbage, but everyone loved it too.
Odyssey is a culmination of what Mario 64 started and if you like that, you will love it. And that song is great, it has a lot of great music surprisingly.
I don't mind Mario. I've played all manner of them over the years, since my childhood. They've often got the occasional absolute classic of a tune in, in particular. Very ripe for remixing and reimagining. But in comparison to the Legend of Zelda Franchise? Eh, I don't think they compare that well, tbh, as a games franchise. Not in terms of world building, art or game design. Could just be personal subjective taste, of course.
In terms of general purpose mascot design and mythology, there's basically no brand more successful over a comparable time period as the Mario games, though. Not that I can think of.
Eh, I enjoyed BOTW for what it was, but I wouldn't want it to set the standard for the series going forward. By the end of my time with it, everything felt flat and generic. There wasn't enough enemy diversity, and combat was way too easy, despite the frustration of weapon breakage. I appreciated the idea of freedom, but the execution meant there wasn't much in the way of gaining abilities or tools to make movement or combat more interesting, because you had to be capable to do anything and everything from the word "go."
It was an interesting experiment, and I hope that BOTW2 refines a lot of it's shortcomings, but I'm concerned about the direction the series is going when I line it up with how Nintendo is continually dropping the ball everywhere else.
It's a console.
What else needs said?
On a slightly more serious note, Ninfriendo has always been the console brand that geared more towards not only friendly multiple player games but ones that didn't need more than one device therefore making it the most social option.
N64 4-man Goldeneye/Perfect Dark. Gamecube RageMurder Simulator uh, I mean Mario Kart and Party games. Switch with it's default controller permitting 2 players alone is another step that direction. Finally of course the Super Smash franchise across all those previous consoles.
Add to this the family orientation of the games it's very much the "ez mode" of games at times compared to others. So those who are utterly shit at games with less aptitude than a pigeon gravitate towards those games because they can actually play them, [well, sometimes they can...]. Regardless of anything else constantly wiping isn't fun when there is no room for improvement. .
Then add on to all of this how trendy nerd/geek culture became and you have the various modern social parasites who are "totes real gamerz, I even played Dark Souls!" plastering social media with their "so nerdy" hobby when infact they're just like other soy/SJW areas and have almost zero actual engagement in the games they go on so much about.
Its a meme, don't take things your read on the internet seriously.
I have a family and for couch co-op it is the best. Pretty much all the first party games are competently made. There also a lot of indie content. The ability to go into tablet/portable mode is a big bonus sometimes.
its a kids console, so any male grown up playing it is a soyboy faggot.
I'll leave that for you, you very grown up person
CS Lewis