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Don't buy games from people who hate you: Hooded Horse. (www.youtube.com)
posted 12 hours ago by CatoTheElder 12 hours ago by CatoTheElder +33 / -0
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– CatoTheElder [S] 17 points 12 hours ago +17 / -0

Apparently being a fan of ArchWarhammer is enough for them to ban you from their discord. They don't want your money, so don't give it to them.

Here is a short list of the games from this publisher. It is to my shame that I have several of them.

Old World

Nebulous: Fleet Command

Clanfolk

Xenonauts 2

Against the Storm

Sons of Valhalla

Manor Lords

Empires of the Undergrowth

Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic

Norland

Breachway

Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew

Cataclismo

Blacksmith Master

9 Kings

Every Day We Fight

He Is Coming

Endless Legend 2

Whiskerwood

Super Fantasy Kingdom

Battle Brothers

Darkwood

Terra Invicta

MENACE

Heart of the Machine

Nova Roma

Heroes of Might and Magic: Olden Era

Corsair Cove

The greatest irony is that Arch has streamed at least 5 of those games in the last 3 months, including Terra Invicta, MENACE, HOMM:Olden Era, Xenonauts 2 and Nebulous: FleetCommand. They really are biting the hand that feeds them.

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– current_horror 8 points 11 hours ago +8 / -0

I've got like half these games. Fucking hell.

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– DrySharkPussy 1 point 10 hours ago +1 / -0

Came to say this.

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– Ahaus667 2 points 12 hours ago +2 / -0

Manor lords is the only on the list I own, then again I bought it two years ago

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– CatoTheElder [S] 2 points 12 hours ago +2 / -0

Just checking i have fewer than I thought, it's just Xenonauts 2 and not 1, and similarly Endless Legend 2, not Endless space. Unfortunately i do own Battle Brothers, and have for years.

Terra Invicta, MENACE, and Nebulous were all on my wishlist, but not anymore.

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– Ahaus667 2 points 12 hours ago +2 / -0

I got endless legends for free at some point, never played it

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– smokeypanda 1 point 4 hours ago +1 / -0

It's just one of the studio's discords that's implicated. AFAIK, Hooded Horse deals with indie studios (ignore the literal oxymoron) and is a fairly hands off publisher. I'll wait for evidence that this is a systemic issue at the publisher and affiliated developers.

We can apply O' Sullivan's law. We should be backing and organizing more anti-woke media companies. We should be adopting Monero and the dark web to fund works more disruptive to the auth-left establishment.

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– throwawayaccount2037 1 point 1 hour ago +1 / -0

Thanks a bunch for this heads up. I have quite a few of these on my wishlist but have been slowly working through my back catalogue so I have not purchased them yet. Sadly, I'll have to remove them.

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– cccpneveragain 13 points 9 hours ago +13 / -0

I'll go as far to say don't pirate games from people who hate you either. Find something else to do. That's not me being one of those "video games bad, go outside" people either. I'm just saying if a game is not worth my dollars, it's not worth my even more valuable time.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 6 points 11 hours ago +6 / -0

I listened to him 10 secondes, jesus this dude is annoying

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– simian 4 points 12 hours ago +4 / -0

I hate the way this guy talks. I can’t tell if it’s an affectation or everyone where he’s from talks like that. Sounds insufferable.

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– SocraticMethod1 8 points 12 hours ago +8 / -0

He's a bilingual Norwegian who learned English from British shows like Monty Python probably.

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– nikgtasa 3 points 10 hours ago +3 / -0

I don't buy games period. Too many times have i bought something and regretted it either because the game turned out to be crap or because the developer/publisher turned out to be someone i dislike.

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– Questionable 2 points 7 hours ago +2 / -0

I was banned from https://greatawakening.win/ for posting beliefs out of the bible on a different .win site. Then they called me a faggot in DMs. I was also banned from c/christianity and c/consumeproduct for believing patriot front to be a fed op.

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– TotalTrannyDeath2 3 points 4 hours ago +3 / -0

Eh, greatawakening is full of faggots. I got banned from them for having my username (old one was the same without 2) and they're jannies defended pedophiles and trannies in the mod messages because most pedophiles and trannies (redundant I know) were once victims of grooming and pedophilia themselves so it makes it ok, only ever posted here yet they sought me out twice. It's no great loss.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 12 hours ago +1 / -0

The best way to hurt them is to do a chargeback. Too many chargbacks, and their payment processor will drop them. They also pay the payment processor fee for both the sale, and the return.

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– Kaarous 11 points 11 hours ago +11 / -0

This is extremely stupid advice.

The vast majority of those games were released way, way before the refund period, and following your advice would just result in getting banned from Steam for fraud.

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– Michalusmichalus 2 points 10 hours ago +2 / -0

The game in question as not released long ago. And, holy shit did all of you miss booktokgate?!

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– Kaarous 6 points 10 hours ago +6 / -0

The game in question

The gigantic list, some of which were released as long as twelve years ago, is the top post on this thread.

You're dumb.

booktokgate

I'm not a tiktoker, nor am I female.

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– Michalusmichalus 4 points 9 hours ago +4 / -0

I actually took the time to watch the fucking video. Maybe if you did, you could make a comment that matchea. I'm not a tiktoker either. But, it was a big deal. One of the hack channels told people to use Amazon like the library by just returning the books after they were downloaded. This lead to authors posting pictures of negative account balances due to REFUND FEES.

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– Kaarous 4 points 9 hours ago +4 / -0

You're a moron.

First of all that's literally fraud. Secondly, how many banks do you know that will conduct a chargeback on a twelve year old purchase?

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– Michalusmichalus 3 points 9 hours ago +3 / -0

Second comment : to be clear, the man in the video absolutely can, and should do a chargeback. Anyone else can put themselves in that situation, and then also do a chargeback.

And, depending on where you live TOS don't mean anything. It's illegal in some states for entities to ask you to sign rights away. If people actually wanted to cause harm to that company it could be done. Easily.

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– Kaarous 5 points 9 hours ago +5 / -0

You don't have a right to commit fraud lol.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 9 hours ago +1 / -0

I have had to threaten Sony with a chargeback of everything once. They looked at what that was, and fixes the problem so helpful.

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– CatoTheElder [S] 9 points 12 hours ago +9 / -0

You are a retarded woman. The only company you hurt with chargebacks is Steam, which is the only pro-customer company in the world.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 4 points 11 hours ago +4 / -0

Steam is not pro consumer LOL

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– CatoTheElder [S] 13 points 11 hours ago +13 / -0

It is the only marketplace that allows negative reviews. EGS and GoG don't have reviews at all. It has a 2 week, 2 hours played no questions asked return policy, EGS and GOG don't do that. It allows you to block entire publishers so that you never get shown their games. Tim Sweeny would have an anurysm if one of his code monkeys came to him with that idea. Steam marks all games that use GenAI in their making. EGS has stated that all games will use GenAI if they get their way. Steam has a functioning friends list, and discussion board all games, EGS doesn't. Steam Workshop makes modding games trivial.

Steam is pro consumer because they want your money and want you to be happy with their service, instead of all the hyperpredatory shit EGS does, like allow cryptogame scams.

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– mharmless 7 points 9 hours ago +7 / -0

GoG has a 30 day refund policy even for games that have been played for any length of time during those 30 days. I believe it is the most permissive refund policy for any of the digital storefronts, by far.

They also have reviews and allow honest negative ones. Disco Elysium has some gems in there with titles like 'I don't support Communists' or "Devs are Marxist - DEFUND SOCIALISTS"

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– covok48 4 points 9 hours ago +4 / -0

Their review system is trash & frequently crashes, GOG Galaxy is also a bloated, unstable piece of shit.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 3 points 11 hours ago +3 / -0

30% of sale price is obscene, period.

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– Kaarous 9 points 11 hours ago +9 / -0

The storefront cut has not one thing to do with the consumer.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 8 points 9 hours ago +8 / -0

It's a complete non sequitur and evidence you're dealing with someone that believes in Labor Theory of Value.

Remember the Ubisoft Store?
Remember Battle.net?
Remember Origin?

Many publishers have tried making their own boutique storefronts to get away from le ebil Steam's grotesque 30% margin. Every single one of them crawled back to Gabe eventually. Guess 70% of sales revenue is better than ZERO.

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– Kaarous 6 points 9 hours ago +6 / -0

And frequently it's the exact same people clamoring for seventy or eighty dollars base game prices these days.

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– CatoTheElder [S] 9 points 11 hours ago +9 / -0

It's standard. Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Nintendo all charge 30%. For that matter most retail has a markup of 50% to 100%.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 2 points 11 hours ago +2 / -0

Its still too much.

And retail has store, shoplifting, cashier etc to pay. Steam/apple/msft have nothing.

for what matters, AAA negotiate lower rates with epic/steam/etc. Of course other game devs don't hve this right.

Steam at least lets you sell on other platforms with 0% cut, I'll give them that however.

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– redman012 1 point 3 hours ago +1 / -0

Amazon servers aren't free

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– current_horror 8 points 10 hours ago +8 / -0

Every successful storefront takes a similar cut. The only difference is Steam empowering consumers with open user reviews. Epic is welcome to match Steam's feature set while charging a smaller percentage, so why doesn't that happen?

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 3 points 10 hours ago +3 / -0

Steam doesnt give a shit about you. Stop drinking the kool aid. Cmon man.

Epic is welcome to match Steam's feature set while charging a smaller percentage, so why doesn't that happen?

It does? They charge a lot less for indie publishers, and a lot of them moved to epic or microsoft to avoid exactly that problem

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– covok48 3 points 9 hours ago +3 / -0

That’s on the publishers, not the consumers.

Again, tell us how Steam is no pro-customer?

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 1 point 8 hours ago +1 / -0

No. Read my other replies.

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– OmegaBird 2 points 8 hours ago +2 / -0

Like that matters to the user.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 1 point 8 hours ago +1 / -0

Well games are more expensive, and less g oes to developer

If you buy the game directly from the developers, they earn more money.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 4 hours ago +2 / -0

EGS and GoG don't have reviews at all.

What do you call this then?

https://i.imgur.com/y7DijX1.png

https://archive.is/FZZii

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– CatoTheElder [S] 1 point 4 hours ago +1 / -0

I stand corrected, GOG has reviews. In my defense, i haven't bought a game on there since Sseth reviewed MM6-7-8, which was 5 years ago.

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– TotalTrannyDeath2 1 point 4 hours ago +1 / -0

When's the last time you used GoG? They have public reviews very clearly under every game. It's not hidden or hard to find. There are several games with nothing but negative reviews.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 12 hours ago +1 / -0

Dumbass. That means STEAM is the payment processor that drops them. Isn't that what you want?

Edit: I just looked it up. Steam can't possibly be the most customer friendly company in the world if they penalize you for your relationship with your banking institution. My credit union has called me to tell me they were doing a chargeback on my behalf.

The reason steam want you to use their internal system is because IT IS THE BEST WAY TO HURT A COMPANY. Not just no income, fees. Cost the company processing fees.

Meanwhile you defend the company that took that right from you like a brain dead zombie that malfunctioned.

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– covok48 7 points 9 hours ago +7 / -0

Any company will do that in any industry, not just Steam. Chargebacks are used to get your money back if the vendor refuses to do anything. It is NOT meant to be a punitive tool.

This site attracts some of the dumbest posters on the planet.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 8 hours ago +1 / -0

Lawfare taught you nothing.

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