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Man argues that falling birthrates are connected with people being under constant surveillance (youtube.com)
posted 32 days ago by Mpetey123 32 days ago by Mpetey123 +26 / -0
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– current_horror 40 points 32 days ago +40 / -0

He's close. Feminism did essentially criminalize men approaching women.

It's feminism. That's it. Women abandoned their critical role as propagators of the species in order to pursue meaningless makework jobs and positions of authority for which they are ill suited. Now they've redirected their unused maternal instincts towards invaders and criminals, accelerating the collapse of civilization in the name of being "nice" to their new "children".

There is no reality in which women spend 75% of their fertility window not having kids and the birthrate doesn't immediately implode. It's fucking math.

And that's before we get into the total destruction of assortive mating thanks to social media. Men and women used to pair off by their relative attractiveness. Now? Social media gases up mid women with easy attention from hundreds or thousands of men. Those mid women think they deserve perfect 10 men and will settle for nothing less.

Or what about the feedback loop created by female hypergamy and DEI hiring and promoting? Women date/mate across and up. Every woman hired to a high paying or high status job is one less man in the "up" dating/mating pool. And not only did that woman displace a man, she also believes that she has elevated her own "status" and shrunk her own dating/mating pool.

How about the fact that white men were given almost no jobs during the pandemic recovery. All of those men were essentially removed from the fucking gene pool. I guess white women will have to turn to non-white men for dating and mating. Institutional soft genocide is awesome.

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– WeedleTLiar 25 points 31 days ago +25 / -0

2/3 of post secondary graduates are women, who then go on to try to have a career, all during their prime child bearing years. The entire "Science needs women" idea is just anti-natalist propaganda.

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– Arkana 16 points 31 days ago +16 / -0

Yep, anybody who thinks that women going to school and doing email jobs for 20 of their major developing years is good is either insane or genocidal.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 14 points 31 days ago +14 / -0

>It's feminism

I think this is right answer. If you look at the graphs, things have been going down hill for 50 years we didn't have social media or dating apps back then, those are symptoms of the problem not the root cause.

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– LogicallyInverse 5 points 31 days ago +5 / -0

It's so obvious too. As long as women don't need men for protection, and can rely on men's government forced handouts in the form of welfare, they'll never settle for a guy that's equal.

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– ZeroPercentCamoIndex 4 points 31 days ago +4 / -0

Excellent breakdown. I'll add the fact that feminism drives down wages because of obvious principles of supply and demand in the labour market. Homes then become less affordable on the one hand, more suited towards double income households, while on the other hand people feel greater pressure to move to cities for the higher paying jobs, where they'll rent even less affordable property and decline to have children for a growing host of reasons that go hand in hand with urban hellholes.

Surely even some zoomettes are picking up on the fact that their forebears were retards for turning their great granddaughters into urban wageslaves.

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– Mpetey123 [S] 20 points 32 days ago +20 / -0

Namely, men are deincentived from approaching woman and courtship rituals because if they fail in the attempt it will be recorded and they could be mocked in perpetuity.

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– horstshort 21 points 32 days ago +21 / -0

They were falling long before the invention of the smartphone. Smartphones are only one of the many contributing factors to falling birthrates.

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– throwawayaccount2037 19 points 31 days ago +19 / -0

Not just mocked... JAILED....

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-7557947/Shy-awkward-student-19-faces-JAIL-sex-assault-conviction.html

I think something like 22% of the lasses out there think cold approaching is equivalent to harassment.

As a guy, that's close to one in five who might consider your cold approach "harassment", and out of them, there is no telling which ones might record you and call the police.

That is an incredible risk to run on someone who is likely ran-through, a single mother, or a mudshark.

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– SocraticMethod1 15 points 32 days ago +15 / -0

That's reasonable as it also feeds into men's 'cost/risk' analysis.

Western Women are too risky because of their tendency to post EVERYTHING online, including their Ls constantly..

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– theaustrianpainter 6 points 31 days ago +6 / -0

Mocked? He could lose his job or get beaten and jailed for being labeled as a groomer/predator.

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 31 days ago +4 / -0

True, but that push has been happening for generations at this point. I'm not sure you can just point the finger at technology alone. Tech could certainly be blamed as an accelerant or force multiplier, but it's not the sole perpetrator here.

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– TheMafia 13 points 31 days ago +13 / -0

My money is 1/5 as valuable as when I was born.

Put the higher dimensional thesis away.

The answer is staring you right in the fucking face.

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– undecidedmask2 5 points 31 days ago +5 / -0

Feminism helped cause inflation via the doubling of the labor force overnight.

Both have the same root cause of course.

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– TheMafia 1 point 30 days ago +1 / -0

More people competing for the same amount of resources increases the value of those resources.

And the labor force didn't double overnight. It took 30 years.

I think your thesis needs work.

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– Zyxl 11 points 31 days ago +11 / -0

He said it was more than just surveillance. He mentioned social media and dating apps. These replace normal human interaction. Marriage, sex and baby making have all declined because we have less real life interaction with potential partners. Because most interaction with people is now online, which has also made people more socially awkward if they do meet in person and they are likely to be on their phones instead of talking.

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– cccpneveragain 8 points 31 days ago +8 / -0

I do think he has a point. I don't think the recording point is about surveillance in the security sense. I think his point is everything you do, if you make a fool of yourself, it will be posted on the internet and you will be relentlessly mocked for it. I suspect this applies even the most to somewhat awkward white guys.

Honestly, I felt some of this even before. I hated pictures of everything when I was a kid, because family would dig them out later and full on make fun of me knowing how much I hated it. When you're beating someone down you're supposed to care about and calling it fun, it's really not fun at all.

But as far as mating, it's feminism anyway. The other part of the recording point. Soon as they get the ick with you, they flip whatever they've recorded around into look at this weird guy you tots need to take him for everything he's got just for making you put up with being around him.

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– KyleIsThisTall 3 points 31 days ago +3 / -0

Jokes on you. That's my fetish.

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– realerfunction 3 points 31 days ago +3 / -0

it's the psychic pressure of 100 million extra people being in the country

they drive the cost of everything up just being here

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– CaptainTrouble 3 points 30 days ago +3 / -0

The real issue with men picking up women isn't that it could be recorded, it's that women really treat the men so hostile that the guys eventually get turned off from ever doing it.

It's basically a shock collar effect. Every time a man tries to pickup a woman he's barking and the women immediately shock the man with a shock collar. Done enough times the man stops barking.

If women want men to approach them more then women need to reward men who approach them.

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