I enjoyed reading about Luke’s Jedi order in the EU. Why that wasn’t included in the sequels is beyond me. Also the main character should’ve been a grand child of Anakin and Padme since Lucas said it’s about Anakin, his children, and grandchildren.
Star Wars was ruined with the obsession with diversity/girl power, not having a plan, actively working to piss off fans, etc. I remember before the prequels came out when I assumed that the future of star wars was books and comics. Should’ve stayed that way after the prequels
It was hubris. Disney was handed decades of expanded universe on a silver platter, but day one they declared it all non-canon because they wanted to be the ones to write Star Wars, to make it 'better'. They assumed the old fans would slurp it up regardless, and they'd get that mythic Modern Audience on top. Now, it's too late. Most of the original cast is now dead, the brand is tarnished, and ideologues are still too entrenched in the company to admit they're the ones at fault. Maybe in 20 years someone will take another crack at it.
The irony is that the only way Star Wars can be saved now is for a new company to come in and say all Disney Star Wars is non-canon then remake everything Disney attempted to do but better.
And that won't happen unless Star Wars becomes so unprofitable for Disney that they decide to sell it off... And even then they probably wouldn't do it because they'd be dumb to give up the rights. The company would have to go under or be at risk of doing so (which they're not even close to) for you to even have hope if it.
They also know that even if they never made another Star Wars anything, it'd still write checks.
Exactly. Disney is still profitable, only because Disney is an amusement park company. And Star Wars is still profitable because people are still buying content and figurines of the original Star Wars franchise, created by George Lucas. Disney is still nowhere near going bankrupt, and Star Wars is still nowhere near being dead weight to them, even if they utterly wrecked its reputation.
With the way Hollywood has been going in the las 8 years, Disney will probably declare all of Star Wars non-canon and launch a reimagining twice within the next decade.
I know there are way more normies than book readers but alienating a loyal group of fans like that isn’t smart. Could’ve just had two continuities. I also remember someone saying they probably would’ve been better off just getting the income from OT and prequel merchandise
I also remember someone saying they probably would’ve been better off just getting the income from OT and prequel merchandise
They literally would have been better off not doing anything at all. I haven't really kept up with this but the last time I checked, they still haven't recouped their investment from buying Lucasfilm.
It's impossible to know really. The movies themselves haven't come close, but Disney does so much with the IP and it's hard to know exactly how much revenue it's generated. Just think about the huge multi billion dollar investments in the parks. How do you attribute park revenue to a specific IP that's not accounting magic? TV shows on Disney+ is another black hole. The only easily decipherable revenue streams to look at would be direct purchases of media and merchandise.
Yea. They cherry pick certain things. I stopped watching Disney Star Wars in 21. I would rather they make their own stuff and not bastardize EU content
I think it should have been revealed that the most powerful Jedi is none other than me, impishdesire. And then I would have married the blue tentacle head girl and lived happily ever after with my mixed species children
I remember reading a book where Luke was flying around the galaxy, seeking anyone who seemed force sensitive to recruit them to the new Jedi Order. His friends were helping in their own ways, like Lando checking out gambling circles for people with unusually consistent streaks of luck. Jedi were found, false positives led to other story hooks, there was drama!
It was infinitely more interesting than anything Disney ever cooked up.
Star Wars was ruined with the obsession with diversity/girl power
Ironically enough, the EU did it better with both Leia and how she was trained while maintaining her politics, and fan favourite Mara Jade. It was already done. Fans already liked these ideas. The only ones who didn't were the executives like Rian and those at Disney.
Exactly. Jaina Solo is probably my favorite character and the EU was moving in the direction of having her be the main focus when Disney took over. I was totally ok with that. There was a trilogy in the works that was cancelled. I was like Disney you can’t at least give the EU fans that trilogy? You are that petty?
I enjoyed reading about Luke’s Jedi order in the EU. Why that wasn’t included in the sequels is beyond me. Also the main character should’ve been a grand child of Anakin and Padme since Lucas said it’s about Anakin, his children, and grandchildren.
Star Wars was ruined with the obsession with diversity/girl power, not having a plan, actively working to piss off fans, etc. I remember before the prequels came out when I assumed that the future of star wars was books and comics. Should’ve stayed that way after the prequels
It was hubris. Disney was handed decades of expanded universe on a silver platter, but day one they declared it all non-canon because they wanted to be the ones to write Star Wars, to make it 'better'. They assumed the old fans would slurp it up regardless, and they'd get that mythic Modern Audience on top. Now, it's too late. Most of the original cast is now dead, the brand is tarnished, and ideologues are still too entrenched in the company to admit they're the ones at fault. Maybe in 20 years someone will take another crack at it.
The irony is that the only way Star Wars can be saved now is for a new company to come in and say all Disney Star Wars is non-canon then remake everything Disney attempted to do but better.
And that won't happen unless Star Wars becomes so unprofitable for Disney that they decide to sell it off... And even then they probably wouldn't do it because they'd be dumb to give up the rights. The company would have to go under or be at risk of doing so (which they're not even close to) for you to even have hope if it.
They also know that even if they never made another Star Wars anything, it'd still write checks.
Exactly. Disney is still profitable, only because Disney is an amusement park company. And Star Wars is still profitable because people are still buying content and figurines of the original Star Wars franchise, created by George Lucas. Disney is still nowhere near going bankrupt, and Star Wars is still nowhere near being dead weight to them, even if they utterly wrecked its reputation.
Someone should make a spinoff with similar themes that ends up being better. Then everyone can forget Star Wars.
With the way Hollywood has been going in the las 8 years, Disney will probably declare all of Star Wars non-canon and launch a reimagining twice within the next decade.
I know there are way more normies than book readers but alienating a loyal group of fans like that isn’t smart. Could’ve just had two continuities. I also remember someone saying they probably would’ve been better off just getting the income from OT and prequel merchandise
Star Wars Episode 9: The Last Command would have been a $2.5-3 billion dollar box office.
Yup. And Mara Jade onscreen would’ve been a big hit. She was a huge fan favorite in the book community
They literally would have been better off not doing anything at all. I haven't really kept up with this but the last time I checked, they still haven't recouped their investment from buying Lucasfilm.
It's impossible to know really. The movies themselves haven't come close, but Disney does so much with the IP and it's hard to know exactly how much revenue it's generated. Just think about the huge multi billion dollar investments in the parks. How do you attribute park revenue to a specific IP that's not accounting magic? TV shows on Disney+ is another black hole. The only easily decipherable revenue streams to look at would be direct purchases of media and merchandise.
Because the kikes that own Disney would have had to pay royalties to the collective authors who created the EU storylines and characters.
And that’s a bridge too far for them.
This is the real reason.
That's part of it but the main reason is so they could destroy and remake it, get rid of all the old characters and insert their own narratives.
They had money to get the rights easily if they really wanted, unless some of the authors were incredibly stubborn.
I get that but they could’ve continued EU stories in a separate continuity from their canon stuff. They already rerelease EU content
Well, they repurpose it. They’ll steal a name or location here and there…
Oh, they re-canonized Grand Admiral Thrawn, didn’t they? Having seen none of this shit myself, it didn’t stick immediately.
Yea. They cherry pick certain things. I stopped watching Disney Star Wars in 21. I would rather they make their own stuff and not bastardize EU content
I think it should have been revealed that the most powerful Jedi is none other than me, impishdesire. And then I would have married the blue tentacle head girl and lived happily ever after with my mixed species children
Not a bad life
Aayala Secura, or Ayaala Secura, or Ayalaa Securah or something like that.
I remember reading a book where Luke was flying around the galaxy, seeking anyone who seemed force sensitive to recruit them to the new Jedi Order. His friends were helping in their own ways, like Lando checking out gambling circles for people with unusually consistent streaks of luck. Jedi were found, false positives led to other story hooks, there was drama!
It was infinitely more interesting than anything Disney ever cooked up.
Ironically enough, the EU did it better with both Leia and how she was trained while maintaining her politics, and fan favourite Mara Jade. It was already done. Fans already liked these ideas. The only ones who didn't were the executives like Rian and those at Disney.
Exactly. Jaina Solo is probably my favorite character and the EU was moving in the direction of having her be the main focus when Disney took over. I was totally ok with that. There was a trilogy in the works that was cancelled. I was like Disney you can’t at least give the EU fans that trilogy? You are that petty?