Since some people here aren't aware of the ridiculousness of the alleged sequence of events, here are a few points:
- The shooter, Tyler Robinson, supposedly smuggled the gun onto Utah Valley University's campus in his pants, limping along a street, right leg mostly straight, but released photographs contradict this.
In surveillance camera stills from the stairs to the roof, Robinson is clearly bending both legs.
Also, there is a clear photograph of Robinson from the front (far right photo). The imprint of a smartphone can clearly be seen in his right pocket. If his pants are so tight they imprint his phone, it's impossible for him to conceal a rifle. (It doesn't even work if his pants were baggy.) I don't know if anyone will argue this point here, but I think it's fairly obvious. Go ahead and stuff a rifle down your pants, look in the mirror, and see how stealthy you are.
- The surveillance video showing Robinson sprinting across the roof and jumping off has a camera angle that includes his stated shooting position, but has no video of him there.
Also, the camera seems to pan, tilt, and zoom to track the subject, which clearly isn't an automatic function. So who was tracking him and why didn't they alert the cops?
- Robinson confessed to the hit in a text conversation between him and his boyfriend. The conversation is an obvious fabrication.
To me this is basically an open confession of a government coverup. The texts are immediately unbelievable coming from a 22-year old zoomer, or even anyone under 50 years old. Robinson leaves a confession note under a keyboard, then says he wanted to keep this a secret until old age. He talks like a character from Gone with the Wind. "A little while longer yet"? But also he talks like a career cop with words like "vehicle," "retrieve," "drop point," "squad car," and "outfit."
Not only does he lay out the motive, means, opportunity, premeditation, and confession of the crime in a few neat paragraphs (very helpful!), he also somehow knows exactly what's going on at the crime scene with the police mistakenly arresting two different people. Then he confesses to engraving the wrong meme on the cartridge ("uwu" vs. "owo"), which is a mistake that no gay furry would ever make.
We have 2022 bodycam footage of Robinson at the scene of an accident. His language is completely normal.
The entire dialogue is pretty clearly written by three-letter agent who did his best work in the 1960s. I haven't even started to outline the problems with it.
Doesn't need to be a government cover up, just a group of conspirators with this guy as the patsy. Maybe because hes stupid, maybe because hes a true believer. Someone else staged the rifle, hell someone else could have even shot him, and then the text messages were sent to point to him so everyone else can avoid scrutiny.
Deranged leftits killed him, maybe it wasnt this deranged leftist, but he was clearly involved as at least the fall guy.
That's also a possibility. If that happened, the FBI was suckered by a bunch of retards. It's almost impossible to overstate how unbelievable the texts are. DEI, sure, but I find it hard to wrap my ahead around anybody reading those and treating them seriously, let alone pushing them out to the media as smoking gun proof.
Why would a normie think anything was weird about those texts? They probably know people who talk like that without a hint of irony. They're not online steeped in irony like we are, they don't see everything as a potential joke or meme at their expense like we do, so they take it at face value.
We're not talking about boomer aunties reading the texts, we're talking about the FBI. They're experienced in profiling and they're actually decent at it. A 22-year old using LEO language, going out of his way to incriminate himself, should immediately raise a red flag.
Also, no one knows anyone who talks like this.
Wrong, I do know people who talk like that, and they're in their 30s.
Who do you think works at the FBI? A bunch of boomer aunties and ideologues who would be happy to buy whatever they have to to protect leftists. They probably didnt have anything to do with it on the front end, but they'll do anything to interfere now.
Yeah, bullshit. Who do you know outside of LEO/military that normally refers to their own car as a "vehicle"?
You want to get into the non-linguistic problems? Why does he have knowledge of exactly what's happening at the crime scene? Why does he tell his boyfriend information they already know ("ever since Trump won my dad's been diehard maga")? Why doesn't he know the meme he engraved on the bullet?
I work at a gas station. Some few folks do refer to their own cars using the term "vehicle". I have no reason to think they're military or law enforcement, they're seemingly random, normal folks.
But yes, the whole thing stinks & it's only going to get worse.
His father was a Sheriff deputy probably picked up some lingo.
That was the initial reporting, but the local county confirmed Robinson isn't related to anyone in the sheriff's dept. It was another Matt Robinson apparently.
Fed op with Israel as a likely co-conspirator.
I was going to add the reporting about Charlie being scared that Israel was going to kill him, but the post was getting a little long.
For anyone not familiar, that statement was reported BEFORE his death. Trump was also reported as "frightened."
It's weird how you guys keep deflecting from the tranny loving leftists that do this shit these days.
Almost like it's intentional.
It's weird that after over 100 years of malevolent, covert operations that you would still entertain overly simplified, hoax level explanations that don't add up. Almost like you're mentally challenged.
It's weird that you jump to this conclusion. He isn't "explaining" anything. He's pointing out how the Media & seemingly the FBI too are deflecting time & time again from acknowledging this nation-wide outbreak of tranny violence.
That does not preclude the outbreak being caused BY the FBI, ok? Tsk Tsk.
I'm aware you're not exactly saying this, but I feel compelled to point out that nobody pointing out the absurdities in this story is deflecting from the troon problem.
I can understand to a certain extent why someone would think that, but we all know this guy is some kind of gay furry troonchaser who mostly likely just needed a few nudges to sign onto an assassination plot. He was probably entrapped, but people like him will need to be dealt with.
The tranny loving leftists Marxists are golems of Jews going back to Weimar Germany.
It's weird how you all have a jew fetish
Ding Ding Ding
I don’t know why you think a hyper-leftist tranny chaser sperg wouldn’t speak in such a stilted way. It sounds like every third redditor. If it’s a fabrication, it’s a fabrication which he committed in order to clear co-conspirators, which were almost certainly other tranny or tranny adjacent discord/reddit Antifa types.
This is leftist violence that fits a pattern of leftist violence, and while some FBI incompetence/corruption may be involved in certain investigational issues re: not pursuing the other leftists potentially involved, there’s not more to it than that. Insisting that this guy is a patsy, or that it has to be a massive spy op, rather than the obvious terror attack by the obvious terror network is pretty baseless, and amounts to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory by letting the left off the hook.
No, it doesn't. Redditors are pretentious, but they sound nothing like this. None of them are soaked in cop/military lingo, either.
And the FBI just took the word of his tranny boyfriend at face value and never investigated further? Yeah, sure. We know what they look like when they're actually interested, and it ain't this.
Oh, we're going after the antifa tranny discord ops. But we need to go after the feds that run them as well or we're basically going in circles.
Oh? You've studied this thoroughly? 😄 The ins and outs of gay tranny furries on Reddit? Do tell!
The investigation has not been concluded, the trial isn't over. Remember the frenzy of "rumours" (fabrications) after Brown v Wilson? The Media ran with the lies until the Grand Jury dropped the truth bomb. They still repeat the lies to this day though.
Until it's over we won't know how much actual investigation went on, they're not going to give US a daily briefing now, right? Riiiight?
I'm not convinced that releasing the tranny roommate after a couple hours was some kind of veteran ploy to sniff out the rest of the network.
Or that releasing texts that were obviously designed to exonerate the tranny roommate is going to somehow lead to his conviction.
The security cam footage follows the shooter because someone zoomed in and followed him after they reviewed the footage. You're not watching the raw video. LOL
Possibly, that's one of the weakest inconsistencies, but since the Green Beret brought it up I decided to mention it.
Dude it's all weak shit.
3 is particularly funny since I asked you if you were using AI to confirm your theories, which you didn't answer, and now you're posting 'Chat GPT says the texts are "most likely fabricated"' as evidence.
Save the videos, wait for the trial, find out you were wrong.
Which the FBI then dutifully aided with. Wonderful.
Exactly! Spreading rumours & theories like what went on with Brown v Wilson before the Grand Jury's report shut all that bullshit down? Doesn't bring us anywhere closer to the truth.
debating this for so long is made more pointless by the fact that it's israel either way. if mr. tyler the troonlover killed him, then he is only the way he is because of israel. if Sniper Mossad Ultra Tactical 1337 Unit killed him then it was israel.
so, who really cares? what does this change? do you think you can find some irrefutable proof and get it presented by israeli media so people can see they killed kirk, who himself was an israeli asset? if not, this is just conspiratorial masturbation to prove that it wasn't israel who killed kirk, but israel!
What I do care about is right wing opinion on A) the FBI's investigation and B) who is actually responsible for the hit. Those things matter. We should all be informed of the facts.
I see you posting some form of "who really cares" all the time and I don't really get it. That question would be equally applicable to every post here.
i like truth too, but when it's this unprovable i feel like time would better be spent on something more productive. there's a lot of proven conspiracies out there to propagate rather than trying to argue that the way a retarded furry types disqualifies him from killing people.
What counts as a proven conspiracy? When the govt actually admits they did it?
I mean, if that's the standard, then we might as well turn our brains off. I feel like I've presented very strong evidence here. The text messages alone are an insult to the public's intelligence, that they'd expect us to believe them.
Muh jews.
Take it to conpro with your lefty friends over there. Stop deflecting from the actual problems.
You're more and more insane every thread.
Weird, it's like it's a leftist thing to hate the jews, you fucking faggot.
Lots of people dislike Jews for all sorts of reasons. You're just TheImp, but you call everyone leftists and stormfags instead of natalists. Get off this forum, you totalitizing retard.
Fuck off back to conpro where they love the jew fetish you have turbocuck
It baffles me as to who is hanging around this forum to upvote this guy for ludicrous statements like "it's a leftist thing to hate the jews"
"What difference does it make at this point?" - HR Clinton
Hypothetically could be because it was scripted for him alone to take the fall and spare co-conspirators.
You're worse than a dog with a bone. How many posts do you need for your shit? Can we sticky a post and you can just add stuff to it as you see fit?
"How dare you care about a recent political assassination!"
You're free to not click on it, you know.
I'm also free to click on it and comment as well, so your permission isn't necessary.
YOUR permission isn't necessary for him to post, you smug faggot. Block him and you'll never see a thread of his again.
The difference is I never tried giving him directions as he did to me. We've never had issues before I don't know why you'd call me a smug faggot?
Projection much? I never said you needed permission for anything, but you're here trying to police what people are allowed to care and post about.
Making suggestions about the amount of posts being made about the samething, that's not policing
Hey, if you'd rather read about Jimmy Kimmel or Biden, knock yourself out.
Literally.
Oh god your retarded ass again?
It would not be hard to convince an impressionable, emotionally damaged individual to do most anything.
Feds and faggots just steaming in the comments. Lol.
Lmao even.
The terrorist group likely has several people to either help him, or do the hit. Many also claimed to be the shooter. Maybe he is a fake too, but that is still unclear to me. Creating confusion is part of their strategy. The confusion helps them to get out of prison after being arrested.
In ballistics, I still need to see the autopsy details. My current theory is that someone self-loaded the rounds with weaker shot-gun powder. After 200 meter its power is also reduced (ballistic calculator can tell you).
One crazy (certifiable!) old guy claimed he was the shooter, not 'many'.
He has a history of such things, it's his MO, eh? He's a leftist lunatic.
They found CP on his phone, nasty stuff! Toddlers! He's not getting out of jail again.
The shot could have been only 120 yards away? IDK if they've "pinpointed it" yet & if they have? Have they released the info?
I do wonder where the bullet is. Did conspirators steal it in the chaos? There's lots of videos, they should be easy to find... hopefully.
3 years is an eternity
while being brainwashedin University. Eh? Radical changes to personality can happen in just a few months.Once again there's more to the story than the "officials" are telling. Are the FBI involved or just covering up for the group they've been radicalizing for the past 4 years under Biden? We may never know.
What's to gain from the government/israel killing Charlie Kirk?
Stanch what would have been the worst political bleeding they've taken so far when Charlie turns the entire young conservative right against Israel. If this is the plan and it works, then troons/antifa suck up all the airtime.