They're trying so hard to equivocate this with the Mangione killing, when this is so much worse.
The UnitedHealthcare guy was following naked self interest and arguably making America worse with dishonest business practices and lobbying to block legal avenues of claiming falsely denied coverage.
Charlie Kirk was trying to make America a better place, even if he had some blind spots.
And just in case anyone has trouble understanding the concept instinctually, you can rank wrongs without excusing the lesser one. E.g. Saying torture+murder is worse than just murder does not mean I'm suddenly ok with just murder.
If you can't get to the base premise of "it's really bad if people are being assassinated in public" and then work out your nuances from there, you've got no business discussing politics.
These aren't nuances it's basic distinctions.
There's a massive difference between Charlie and the crooked CEOs etc that have cost lives.
Plus plenty of Americans are happy for the cops to commit outright murders on the street
Also the john walker in that picture was the idiot that ran rockpapershotgun.
Literally every single word you said about the "crooked CEO" is being leveled against Charlie, and the left claim that Charlie is worse because he's spreading fascism. Adding your anti-cop comment on the end, makes it effectively indistinguishable from all leftist commentary. Perhaps you'd like to add that Charlie's comments on Israel supported genocide, and therefore he was more deserving of it?
This is why u/MLGS is right. It's a outright murder to start with, and if you can't accept that, then you shouldn't be in politics.
Literally every single word you said about the "crooked CEO" is being leveled against Charlie, and the left claim that Charlie is worse because he's spreading fascism
False equivalency is also a trait we see with these people and you too apparently.
Where was it said the crooked CEO was a fascist?
I don't see any anti-cop comments either?
It's not an observation, that's the lie. Most Americans don't want to watch cops commit murder, and don't approve it. You frame police as murderous without evidence. Nice try with reversal, but you sound like a Leftist.
Anti-Cop sentiment
It's not.
It describes the pro police brutality attitudes of some Americans and don't try and play that off as being the same as BLM chimping out because a violent scumbag got shot.
yeah but you also said this which also a load of crap.
Charlie Kirk, love him or hate him, was engaging in discourse. He was willing to subject his ideas to the crucible of the public square, and he invited everyone else to do the same. There is courage in that endeavor, especially during these highly polarized and (apparently) violent times. Assassinating such a man is more than an attack on his specific ideas. The very discourse was murdered here. The left have declared the national conversation finished.
Grummz is one of the “on the right by the thinnest of possible margins” crowd. He’s not out attacking people to his right, so I don’t have any particular issue with him, but he’s definitely not really “right wing” or anything.
It won’t. Nobody inside the leftist bubble (blue sky, Reddit, etc) is seeing anything other than the celebratory posts. So for them, celebration is normal and right. None of them are thinking “this is wrong - it was wrong to kill him and wrong to gloat” because they’re getting a very very strong signal that it’s all right and good
If they saw you being upset they would be genuinely confused …then they’d label you a nazi and start advocating for your death too
I've seen so many normies jump through hoops to defend this game.
I have not been following it too closely other than some sporadic videos from anti-woke channels that noted they purposely hired a Leftist activist dyke and the studio has apparently been compromised; but out of morbid curiosity I'll click on a video in the recommended section just to read normie comments, and they still try to defend or overlook the giant red flags.
"So long as she keeps her politics out of the game, I'll play it!"
"Who cares if she supports LGBT causes? So long as the game is good"
"Replacing a male character with a female character isn't a feminist agenda. Stop it!"
"Sucker Punch makes great games, so that's all I care about."
After reading enough normie comments I just close the tab and die a little bit more inside.
Playstation fanboys put their loyalty to their console of choice over their loyalty to anything else every single time, so I am not surprised. They have always been just brain dead fans of consuming product.
I used to be a PlayStation fanboy when it was still a Japanese brand. Everything went to shit when they "convinced" the Sony suits to move the PlayStation headquarters to California.
Like the 'United Airlines will fly you straight to the office' jokes makes on September 12th 2001.
Tragedy requires discomforting means of processing.
I know Ghost of Yotei is a questionable property right now, but I hold that whole thing separate from Charlie Kirk being murdered.
I'm sure Drew is an asshole generally, so by all means hate on them. But I think a lot of people are shifting back-and-forth dealing with the whole assassination thing right now.
Not against the guy being an asshole and trying to rile up a group of people who he thinks share similar sentiments, which is only a match to a make of gasoline to anyone with common sense.
I'll watch him burn.
Just important to point out that reactions to tragic events aren't always an indication of who someone is.
In this case it might be exactly who he is, but we can't snap back instinctively otherwise we're no better than the reptilian brain type that he would seem to present.
What do you call this mindset? The eternal cuck? Your standard of evidence is so retardedly high that your enemies will basically never do anything wrong. Everything will be an accident or a misunderstanding right up until they tell you to face the wall.
Ah, the old polarised black-and-white thinking. It suits you perfectly.
So there can be no misunderstanding with this one, because I want to make sure you understand this with no margin for error "Go and fuck yourself!"
The exclamation point was to make it seem like it was emotional, it wasn't. I just needs to prod that little part of your grey matter that will somehow be offended by words talking about the death of an innocent man and people, regardless of what they thought of him, having troubles dealing with it.
So which are you; the Master Race or the Chosen People?
Having read that he tried to pull a 'UWU on X' afterwards it sounds like this guy is a turd that needs to be flushed in Minecraft.
But thankfully that metaphor can find its way into him saying "I was different then and didn't know what I was saying" in ten years time when he can't get a job.
Let's hold him to that unless he decides to 'transplant' himself first.
It is a nice way of putting forward my more concise "Half-truths" and "There's always a fallguy" concept of jokes.
I think it sort of falls apart in an existential level with him having drawings already made, but in a funny way where he's already in on the joke he's telling about breaking down jokes - which suits my thinking just fine.
Again, thanks for sharing. I might check out more of hoe_math when I've got time :)
That is a much more agreeable way of dealing with the circumstances Gizortnik.
Not everyone is tooled up to take on trauma and those who are help everyone else deal with it a little easier.
This Drew person sounds like a right donkey fucker the more I hear about him though, so perhaps he's performing for his audience of fellow dickgobblers?
That's a difficult one for me. I completely agree that Bluesky just signals trouble to anyone who knows, but sadly a lot of companies have been coerced into ditching X and adopting that as their current means of 'social media' and so I can't hate on it all because there's plenty of stupid people who don't know better using it.
He's not one of them though. He's the type of person who is exactly what KiA2 is all about making sure is known for who and what he is.
Now that I've read into him there's no doubting it. Label and be done with this trash would be the best I can say. Not everyone on Bluesky is the enemy, just the vast majority of them on it often.
They're trying so hard to equivocate this with the Mangione killing, when this is so much worse.
The UnitedHealthcare guy was following naked self interest and arguably making America worse with dishonest business practices and lobbying to block legal avenues of claiming falsely denied coverage.
Charlie Kirk was trying to make America a better place, even if he had some blind spots.
And just in case anyone has trouble understanding the concept instinctually, you can rank wrongs without excusing the lesser one. E.g. Saying torture+murder is worse than just murder does not mean I'm suddenly ok with just murder.
If you can't get to the base premise of "it's really bad if people are being assassinated in public" and then work out your nuances from there, you've got no business discussing politics.
These aren't nuances it's basic distinctions. There's a massive difference between Charlie and the crooked CEOs etc that have cost lives. Plus plenty of Americans are happy for the cops to commit outright murders on the street
Also the john walker in that picture was the idiot that ran rockpapershotgun.
Literally every single word you said about the "crooked CEO" is being leveled against Charlie, and the left claim that Charlie is worse because he's spreading fascism. Adding your anti-cop comment on the end, makes it effectively indistinguishable from all leftist commentary. Perhaps you'd like to add that Charlie's comments on Israel supported genocide, and therefore he was more deserving of it?
This is why u/MLGS is right. It's a outright murder to start with, and if you can't accept that, then you shouldn't be in politics.
False equivalency is also a trait we see with these people and you too apparently. Where was it said the crooked CEO was a fascist? I don't see any anti-cop comments either?
I said that the Left thinks Charlie is spreading fascism
Anti-Cop sentiment:
Ah yes, because Gizortnik has adopted leftism now, where neutral observation or description of a thing is the same as advocacy for the thing.
It's not an observation, that's the lie. Most Americans don't want to watch cops commit murder, and don't approve it. You frame police as murderous without evidence. Nice try with reversal, but you sound like a Leftist.
yeah but you also said this which also a load of crap.
I would have just gone with "fuck you" but I've been saying that a lot lately.
"Assassinations are only bad when the victim agrees with my politics" - democrats
Charlie Kirk, love him or hate him, was engaging in discourse. He was willing to subject his ideas to the crucible of the public square, and he invited everyone else to do the same. There is courage in that endeavor, especially during these highly polarized and (apparently) violent times. Assassinating such a man is more than an attack on his specific ideas. The very discourse was murdered here. The left have declared the national conversation finished.
Hopefully, this tears away at the last defenders of this woke feminist trash of a game
I am a little surprised he posts 'Ghost of Yotei is dead to me now.' It wasn't dead to you already?
Grummz is one of the “on the right by the thinnest of possible margins” crowd. He’s not out attacking people to his right, so I don’t have any particular issue with him, but he’s definitely not really “right wing” or anything.
It won’t. Nobody inside the leftist bubble (blue sky, Reddit, etc) is seeing anything other than the celebratory posts. So for them, celebration is normal and right. None of them are thinking “this is wrong - it was wrong to kill him and wrong to gloat” because they’re getting a very very strong signal that it’s all right and good
If they saw you being upset they would be genuinely confused …then they’d label you a nazi and start advocating for your death too
I've seen so many normies jump through hoops to defend this game.
I have not been following it too closely other than some sporadic videos from anti-woke channels that noted they purposely hired a Leftist activist dyke and the studio has apparently been compromised; but out of morbid curiosity I'll click on a video in the recommended section just to read normie comments, and they still try to defend or overlook the giant red flags.
"So long as she keeps her politics out of the game, I'll play it!"
"Who cares if she supports LGBT causes? So long as the game is good"
"Replacing a male character with a female character isn't a feminist agenda. Stop it!"
"Sucker Punch makes great games, so that's all I care about."
After reading enough normie comments I just close the tab and die a little bit more inside.
Playstation fanboys put their loyalty to their console of choice over their loyalty to anything else every single time, so I am not surprised. They have always been just brain dead fans of consuming product.
I used to be a PlayStation fanboy when it was still a Japanese brand. Everything went to shit when they "convinced" the Sony suits to move the PlayStation headquarters to California.
I didn't need another reason to still not get the game.
But there it is.
I hope the preorder flops.
As dark humour gags go, that's pretty funny.
Like the 'United Airlines will fly you straight to the office' jokes makes on September 12th 2001.
Tragedy requires discomforting means of processing.
I know Ghost of Yotei is a questionable property right now, but I hold that whole thing separate from Charlie Kirk being murdered.
I'm sure Drew is an asshole generally, so by all means hate on them. But I think a lot of people are shifting back-and-forth dealing with the whole assassination thing right now.
That kind of 'charitable interpretation' for Drew died on two points:
This was posted on BlueSky
He posted a follow-up after noticing the attention saying 'the others idea of Twitter noticed me, UWU'
Not against the guy being an asshole and trying to rile up a group of people who he thinks share similar sentiments, which is only a match to a make of gasoline to anyone with common sense.
I'll watch him burn.
Just important to point out that reactions to tragic events aren't always an indication of who someone is.
In this case it might be exactly who he is, but we can't snap back instinctively otherwise we're no better than the reptilian brain type that he would seem to present.
What do you call this mindset? The eternal cuck? Your standard of evidence is so retardedly high that your enemies will basically never do anything wrong. Everything will be an accident or a misunderstanding right up until they tell you to face the wall.
Ah, the old polarised black-and-white thinking. It suits you perfectly.
So there can be no misunderstanding with this one, because I want to make sure you understand this with no margin for error "Go and fuck yourself!"
The exclamation point was to make it seem like it was emotional, it wasn't. I just needs to prod that little part of your grey matter that will somehow be offended by words talking about the death of an innocent man and people, regardless of what they thought of him, having troubles dealing with it.
So which are you; the Master Race or the Chosen People?
Wowsers that’s a lot of words just to admit you’re a faggot. I really like the giant run on sentence that makes no sense. It was great!
Thanks!
Although I think your self-projection onto my words outshines my greatest hopes :)
“I’m rubber and you’re glue” man the hits just keep coming from you!
Use the term gray matter again, it makes you seem so cute. Like a reddit atheist who thinks he’s so smart for using the term sky daddy!
Leftist game developer cruelly jokes about charlie kirk right after he is assassinated.
You: just some dark humor, everyone processes events differently, I think he’s just having trouble dealing with it
Is this really your argument? You’re attaching your name to this? lol
So Chosen People or Master Race?
I mean when we only categorise trauma without nuance there is no middle ground, is there?
Does asking thrice make your retardation look any more magnificent?
This is gay as hell
I'd say the gallows humor is less damning than the fact this blob thinks this and the luigi killing are comparable.
Having read that he tried to pull a 'UWU on X' afterwards it sounds like this guy is a turd that needs to be flushed in Minecraft.
But thankfully that metaphor can find its way into him saying "I was different then and didn't know what I was saying" in ten years time when he can't get a job.
Let's hold him to that unless he decides to 'transplant' himself first.
Watch hoe_math’s video on “joking”.
What leftists do might look like jokes, and it might even be funny sometimes, but they're never actually joking.
If it's this one - JOOOOOOOKES (levels) I'd never seen it before, so thanks for sharing it with me :)
It is a nice way of putting forward my more concise "Half-truths" and "There's always a fallguy" concept of jokes.
I think it sort of falls apart in an existential level with him having drawings already made, but in a funny way where he's already in on the joke he's telling about breaking down jokes - which suits my thinking just fine.
Again, thanks for sharing. I might check out more of hoe_math when I've got time :)
Are you schizophrenic?
I'm not the one socking it (Or is that your boyfriend?).
These jokes are significantly distinguishable when contrasted with Dankula's: https://xcancel.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1965910657867628584#m
Nothing in it actually makes fun of charlie
That is a much more agreeable way of dealing with the circumstances Gizortnik.
Not everyone is tooled up to take on trauma and those who are help everyone else deal with it a little easier.
This Drew person sounds like a right donkey fucker the more I hear about him though, so perhaps he's performing for his audience of fellow dickgobblers?
He is on bluesky, so that's a slight against his character.
That's a difficult one for me. I completely agree that Bluesky just signals trouble to anyone who knows, but sadly a lot of companies have been coerced into ditching X and adopting that as their current means of 'social media' and so I can't hate on it all because there's plenty of stupid people who don't know better using it.
He's not one of them though. He's the type of person who is exactly what KiA2 is all about making sure is known for who and what he is.
Now that I've read into him there's no doubting it. Label and be done with this trash would be the best I can say. Not everyone on Bluesky is the enemy, just the vast majority of them on it often.
Yeah their “game” could fuck off already even before Charlie was shot. I was never going to buy it
Wasn't buying it anyways, might have played if free, now not even then.
Every time.
Why are leftists obsessed with this Luigi guy?