I remember a few months back there was a similar poll where women said video games were a turnoff. Just makes me laugh considering for over a decade they have been really pushing the idea that there are waves and waves of women who want to buy super hero comics or waves of women just dying to play video games that generally appeal to men.
I know with comic books there was a poll during the height of the MCU that showed that 50 percent of women liked the movies. Which anyone could see that the people going to the movies weren't reading the comics. Of course Gail Simone and her fridging nonsense caused comic book head to bend the knee to this nonsense instead of seeing who actually buys comics. As for gaming, I remember it being 2018 when I finally cancelled my Game Informer subscription when every issue was either something about women in gaming or some ridiculous lecture about toxicity or lack of diversity in gaming.
Don't forget the sob stories of women who cried about going into a comic book store and having to "be quizzed" by nerds (i.e. an unattractive man asked her what comics she liked). All this is why with rare exception I just watch stuff that was made 2014 and prior. Just with the 80s and 90s there is so much I didn't see growing up and I am catching up on (like I am currently watching the Sleepaway Camp movies on Tubi).
Sorry for the long message, but I found that poll to be pretty funny.
I'll say here what I said in the previous thread about videogames being a turnoff. If you want to attract women, an absolutely guaranteed losing strategy is giving a single iota of concern towards what women think. Women will pontificate all day long about what they want in a man, but the reality is that they will mould themselves to the right one gleefully--it's in their nature.
Just keep on keeping on, and charge towards your goals. If a woman wants to come along for the ride, so be it, but NEVER let her take the lead in the relationship, or it's guaranteed to lead to disaster. The truth is, she doesn't even want that, it's just in her nature to shit test you.
As a teen I was always confused because all these female classmates would tell me what women want and then date guys that were the exact opposite of what they said they wanted. I think it was Myron Gaines who said when women insist they want a nice guy they really mean the 9/10 or 10/10 guy they are already attracted to should be nice and kind.
I’m currently single in my early 40s and at least at my age I can just lay my cards on the table.
It's because the majority of women are actually just dumb cunts.
Maybe 40% aren't, but a majority aren't rational by actual standards. Feels over facts, etc.
They're basically mentally children, and should be treated like it. Once you notice it, it's impossible not to. The hard part is finding the 40% that aren't already married in their 20s when they actually find someone good.
Treating my 32 year old girlfriend close to how I treat my 4 year old niece has lead to one of the better relationships in my life.
Every society and religion everywhere on Earth universally understood that you have to severely limit women's sovereignty from 50000 BC up until 1965 AD.
Ignore what they say watch what they do.
That's just another rule they make for betas and break for alphas. If she's making rules for you send her back to the streets where she belongs.
Yea. As a teenager I wish I saw that
It's almost like those studies that showed that were all biased or based off of bad data like Facebook polls, and women who like comics and video games are still tomboy nerds who are different from normal women. And yet, all these companies threw away millions of dollars to attempt to pull it off and appeal to them.
I suppose the one good thing is I think we are legitimately turning the corner back to sanity on the topic. Between Trump winning the popular vote (showing his ideas are in fact mainstream now), and the mounting failures of brands that went all in on Woke (even if they never went totally broke, they did see massive declines), we are seeing many brands going back toward pro-USA and typical "normie" advertising. Like how now that the left failed at trying to cancel American Eagle with the Sweeney ad, apparently now they are up in arms over a patriotic Dodge Ram ad. And Dodge also doesnt care. There is a part of me that thinks the 250th American anniversary will be a true turning point, and we may even hit 1980's levels of "AMERICA! RAAHH!" after it.
Honestly they should’ve just come up with comics that appeal to girls/women like they did with romance soap opera comics years ago. Make some fantasy/supernatural story mixed with romance. Manga understands the audience and literally has something for everyone
It has been one of the eternal problems for comics though: For some reason, even during their golden age, they just couldnt get away from doing anything but superheroes. And then it got worse (IMO) when they decided they were going to do only superheroes that have fantastical powers fighting godlike entities and move away from superheroes with no powers fighting street level violence (my personal favorite hero of all time still falling in this category: The Rocketeer).
I also think another thing that holds comics back compared to manga (and is an issue regardless of gender) is that most manga has a definitive start and end point. Comics have dozens of first issues, reboots, alternative timelines, and other things that make it next to impossible to actually get in and start reading, while Manga has (as an example) One Piece #1 and then follows that chronological order.
Great points all around. Super hero comics were just one of many genres. There were war comics, western, sci-fi, horror, etc. To this day when I find old reprints of tales from the crypt or weird tales I buy them up. I love sci-fi and horror comic anthologies. They just don’t make them anymore.
I’ve only recently gotten into Manga and being able to get a volume one omnibus is very convenient
The problems you list are why I all but shun Marvel and DC. Every other publisher has managed to put out comics that I can enjoy because they're not shackled to the endless reboot cycle or the super hero genre.
Honestly the super hero genre is the problem with the American comic industry.
Twilight got remade as a shoujo manga. No way any guys were buying that one.
Isn't that just monster rape hentai?
Can you imagine how terrible the 250th anniversary would have been under President Harris?
From what I've gathered Cavill is kind of a nerd. I know he likes building computers, video games, and live streaming.
You mean Wolverine 1? 🙄
Been collecting comics and sports cards since childhood and I’ll pass them on to my kids or nieces and nephews. Massive reader as well. I still enjoy reading comics but don’t read new ones. Main point of the post was that the comic book industry and gaming industry ruined their model due to the obsession with pushing women in hobbies that generally appeal to guys.
I love RPG games. Don’t have time to obsess over things but they are fun. Especially since I have insomnia to a degree. Although 90% of reading I do are books. Granted you are correct about modern western entertainment
No fun allowed.
Eh I never pay mind to what the polls say
Yes I like video games. Yes I like puzzles. Yes I like tabletop. A poll says women don’t like that? Sick. Who gives a shit? What I do in my life is not and will never be dictated by what others like.
Some women still like me even though I love spending my free time playing video games, so what if these others who took a poll says otherwise
The whole "opposites attract" thing rarely mentions that having different interests means you can have time to yourself which is very often extremely healthy for relationships so you aren't in each others faces all the time.
For sure!
You are right but I was more referring to the unwillingness to accept that certain interests/genres/hobbies will always appeal to more men than women and vice versa. I too have the interests mentioned and if I came across a woman who hated it I’d just shrug my shoulders and look for another lady
I don’t see anything here about acceptance? It’s just a poll of what’s a turnoff.
Nevermind. I get where you are coming from. Made me chuckle but I guess I didn’t convey it correctly.
Women's stated preferences are absolutely worthless. Do we have data on how many women are currently dating comic book nerds?
I remember when MCU/Big Bang Theory and pretty much nerdy stuff were at its peak popularity I had this very attractive co-worker who would wear a shirt that said I love nerds or talk nerdy to me. I used to chuckle imaging some guy approaching her and trying to discuss the three laws of robotics
Or going off about how removing damage from the stack was a terrible decision and how mana burn was an obscure but valuable rule to keep certain edge case decks in check back when Mana Flare was the big ramp game in town.
Bunch of posers man...Anyone who's actually nerdy and advertising is doing it with a t-shirt referencing obscure things that the normie isn't going to even have heard of, much less recognize.
Those WERE both important issues! I miss mana burn and damage on the stack, MTG has been so kiddie-fied lately.
Those were just 00s/early 10s hipsters? Scott Pilgrim fans?
Womens rights are a turn off to me
Wow, 20 years of Marvel movies (and I mean actually good ones), and women still don't like us nerds? That's a shock.
>looks at shoujo manga fans
>looks at BL manga fans
Yeah. They're sure getting turned off by comics.
But seriously, how bad is the selection bias. Who participates in these surveys? What are the demographics?
How many women love the MCU or love nerd culture like on The Big Bang Theory. I'd love to see the data between the women who don't like comic books and are MCU or TBBT watchers.
I saw this with guys too. Basic normies who saw the MCU movies when they were hot but didn’t go to buy any comics. Thats always been around. Like a ton of people saw Star Wars but only a fraction got into the games or the EU books and comics.
The movies would never make a profit if only people who bought comic books went to see them.
I know, but as with anything the normies will get tired of it and move on so you can’t neglect the comic book fans or like with Star Wars the EU readers. They made a mistake by discarding them when it would’ve been easy to just write books in that continuity separate from the canon. The now cancelled Wheel of Time show pissed off the book fans from the start. I do get your point and you are correct
I didn't mean to say the diehard fans opinions are to be ignored.
They are the filterers, they read all the junk and find the gems that are worth making into more expensive to produce media.
It is unrealistic to expect most people who invest 2 hours to see a movie, and like it, to invest the kind of time it takes to seek out and buy and read comic books. Though the digital age has hopefully made that a little easier. In a way though, I hope it hasn't, at least at the commercial level, that would just mean more Black Rock infiltration.
Good points all around
Women love the social proof that comes with infiltrating nerdy male hobbies.
Best way to make a career of victimhood about "toxic incel culture"
TBBT sucks. It's a overly stereotyped show about "smart" people for retards.
Someone some years ago made a graph/political compass of dumb/smart characters and dumb/smart audience. TBBT was smart characters, dumb audience, which is probably one of the more common types since "smart characters" are usually just really shit writing by dumb people who don't understand what being smart is like, so they write in someone difficult to understand since the writers themselves are also retards.
Edit: found the image, it was a Venn diagram: https://imgur.com/IT2K6F8
Tomorrow they will love them again. The day after that "ew, I hate comic books and never read them". The next- COMICS ARE FOR GURLS ONLY!!! GURLPOWER
Women are retards. More news at 11
Any male hobby that does not transfer material wealth to women or signal high physical attractiveness and status is unattractive to women.
Women's state preferences are absolutely worthless. Do we have data on how many women are currently dating comic book nerds?
Yeah, well the only real polls that matter were taken at the box office and proved that the poll you are referencing was a lie that Hollywood was telling themselves.
Yep and seeing an MCU movie didn’t translate to reading comics. Growing up girls in a comic store were so rare that when a girl did come in my friends and I made fools of ourselves rolling out the red carpet
Women want twilight with more rape and maybe some forced breeding. Doesn't matter what form you give it to them, that's the recipe.