Ehh, if you’re going to be spamming Uoh, cunny, correction and all the other memes in chat, expect to be shamed.
I personally don’t give a shit about the topic anymore, just really want people to at least use the actual definitions of words and not call the Sorceress from Dragon’s Crown a loli
The age of corpos also on the edge as her numbers were RIDICULOUS, she'll probably hit 1 million subscribers by the end of the week! Between this and Vshojo news, only corpo I haven't heard any bad thing from other than their bus stolen at offkai is Phase Connect.
But yeah, the 'loli debate' is still a BIG argument even on here. I maintain so long as it's purely fictional either drawn or animated not basing off real people, meh. Gets too much under thought police since as you'd have to then target stuff like vore, gore, psychological horror etc under the same premise. Just have a good reality/fiction divide and if you can't, then you shouldn't view it.
We have too many real injured and harmed people, to worry about fake imaginary people. I'm not going to go to everyone who loves action movies and ask why they enjoy watching murder so much, and I'm not going to ask the shork feesh girl why she's small.
But yeah, the 'loli debate' is still a BIG argument even on here. I maintain so long as it's purely fictional either drawn or animated not basing off real people, meh.
Is this about porn? I thought you guys were talking about vtubers. I don't understand why the topics are conflated, from either side.
I know what the words mean. I was confused by what you meant. Was your comment about the 'loli debate' heading into a lolicon tangent and not about the vtubers?
The vtuber in question was one of the most famous for having a "loli" type avatar, and her new one is even more so. And her debut stream the chat was filled with meme phrases about lolicon stuff like "uohh" and "cunny."
Its conflated because the entire thing has long since entered into a nonsense where its clear most people just want anime period banned and are using the "lolicon" thing as a front for it.
I still think Holo is going to be fine, as they have largely bounced back from their controversies at the beginning of the year. But I do agree that a lot of corpo's are falling off and Indies are on the rise. Much like with gaming, the lows of Indies can be Mean Girl back biting, jealousy, and trash-tier models, but the heights can be so much better. I mean, just compare how expressive Saba's model is with Gura's and even if she didnt hate Hololive you can already tell how much better off she is.
I agree, Hololive will probably be ok, same with the asylum called Phase Connect and probably Vshojo but there does seem to be a rise in indie and more unique even right leaning ones.
I dont know if I would even call most of the Indies like that "Right-leaning". Some are, like Leaflit and Kirsche, but most of the other ones that the Twitter Freaks have tried to cancel are just...normal. But they are free to say what is actual, normal beliefs and opinions because, like Shoeonhead pointed out in one of her recent videos, their anonymity lets them protect themselves from the "eternal HR longhouse" that will henpeck them for the "crimes" of saying men deserve love, because you cant intimidate and bully them. But the Left has so thoroughly lost the plot that nowadays normal looks like the Right-Wing to them.
I mean, she has also been pretty open in the past that it isnt even type casting, she does like the look.
If you believe the stuff that has been found about her IRL looks, it is probably because she is in fact a petite woman IRL so why wouldnt she be one fictionally.
wow! this is riveting. the corpo-sponsored pedo bait is now, still, corpo-sponsored pedo bait? and you still love it and fight for it as if it were your god? we need this shown on national TV.
your reply is such a disgusting mixture of retarded and smug that it makes me think a woodchipper would come alive and develop sentience just to throw you up and demand something less revolting.
The big "loli" culture war going on right now is just the most pathetic circle jerk of virtue signalling or obvious deflection I've ever seen.
Because on one hand you got the Woke and guys with obvious CP making a big fuss about it, and all anime, just so you don't accuse them of being pedos because obviously if they yell loudly enough that means they super hate it and can't possibly be one. The Dr. Pizza types we all know.
And then the other side is just tilting at every windmill possible because occasionally they find a hit. They all think they are Chris Hansen and get throbbing erections watching predator catcher channels online thinking about finally getting to physically assault someone while getting cheered on.
Lolishit is offputting, degenerate and often well into questionable territory. But its also so ingrained into the anime style from Japan that half the people complaining about it couldn't tell you where the line is between "generic anime girl" and "loli girl" is, which is how you get shit like Uzaki (canonically a college student) being tossed in. And most weebs have become so numb to it that it doesn't even register as anything more than a joke and archetype like tsundere and menhara instead of a "facsimile of a child."
But if the people who cried about it put even a fraction of the effort and hate into hating actual pedophiles we might have already killed the LGBT movement dead and protected some actual kids instead of getting a bunch of social media likes for being the biggest anti-loli crusader. They spent years trying to take down Shadman, probably the biggest lolicon artist, only for him to get arrested for assault relating to his drug habit and not having a single CP on him.
I don’t know, is drawing actual underaged children performing sex acts (something he actually did, along with drawing actual people like Hilary as lolis performing said sex acts) a crime? It isn’t the actual kid but a drawing, but who cares, Shadman’s a fucking weirdo anyway
is drawing actual underaged children performing sex acts a crime?
No, the SCOTUS itself has ruled it is not unless its indistinguishable from a photo of the child, such as pasting their head on a nude body or is "reasonable to be believed" that it actually was them. Might fall under defamation though. Its in fact been protected as free speech multiple times.
Point being, the king of "Drawing lolishit" didn't get caught with anything so the reasoning of "all lolicons are also into CP" has a major chunk against it. Regardless of how gross they are, they aren't criminals by default.
The sheer number of facial expressions are off the charts! It's over 9000!
I heard a rumor that the Vtubers had to use their actual heights for their toons. Not weights obviously, lolz! Otherwise half of them would be 4' tall and the other half 6' tall (or something).
She really is tiny, that's been certified.
I heard a rumor that the Vtubers had to use their actual heights for their toons.
It depends. A lot of individuals who are Indie go wild and will make a model however they want, especially if they have no intention of a 3D model (where accurate measures matter). But when you have things like Hololive, it has been more or less confirmed that their models are proportional to their height and body because it makes it easier to make a 3D rig and then have them interact in a group together without clipping or other model weirdness.
G̶a̶w̶r̶ G̶u̶r̶a̶ Sameko Saba is based
“Are you scared of a little four letter word?” - Gawr Gura
Ehh, if you’re going to be spamming Uoh, cunny, correction and all the other memes in chat, expect to be shamed.
I personally don’t give a shit about the topic anymore, just really want people to at least use the actual definitions of words and not call the Sorceress from Dragon’s Crown a loli
The age of corpos also on the edge as her numbers were RIDICULOUS, she'll probably hit 1 million subscribers by the end of the week! Between this and Vshojo news, only corpo I haven't heard any bad thing from other than their bus stolen at offkai is Phase Connect.
But yeah, the 'loli debate' is still a BIG argument even on here. I maintain so long as it's purely fictional either drawn or animated not basing off real people, meh. Gets too much under thought police since as you'd have to then target stuff like vore, gore, psychological horror etc under the same premise. Just have a good reality/fiction divide and if you can't, then you shouldn't view it.
We have too many real injured and harmed people, to worry about fake imaginary people. I'm not going to go to everyone who loves action movies and ask why they enjoy watching murder so much, and I'm not going to ask the
shorkfeesh girl why she's small.Everyone in phase is to autistic to have drama.
Is this about porn? I thought you guys were talking about vtubers. I don't understand why the topics are conflated, from either side.
No, loli refers to the body type not JUST porn.
The porn only one is called lolicon.
I know what the words mean. I was confused by what you meant. Was your comment about the 'loli debate' heading into a lolicon tangent and not about the vtubers?
Ironically I was referring to the mere use of the body type by vtubers gets allegations of 'pedo bating'.
Like every one of them is on Bluesky.
The vtuber in question was one of the most famous for having a "loli" type avatar, and her new one is even more so. And her debut stream the chat was filled with meme phrases about lolicon stuff like "uohh" and "cunny."
Its conflated because the entire thing has long since entered into a nonsense where its clear most people just want anime period banned and are using the "lolicon" thing as a front for it.
I still think Holo is going to be fine, as they have largely bounced back from their controversies at the beginning of the year. But I do agree that a lot of corpo's are falling off and Indies are on the rise. Much like with gaming, the lows of Indies can be Mean Girl back biting, jealousy, and trash-tier models, but the heights can be so much better. I mean, just compare how expressive Saba's model is with Gura's and even if she didnt hate Hololive you can already tell how much better off she is.
Yep, her model is quite emotive as shown here lol.
I agree, Hololive will probably be ok, same with the asylum called Phase Connect and probably Vshojo but there does seem to be a rise in indie and more unique even right leaning ones.
I dont know if I would even call most of the Indies like that "Right-leaning". Some are, like Leaflit and Kirsche, but most of the other ones that the Twitter Freaks have tried to cancel are just...normal. But they are free to say what is actual, normal beliefs and opinions because, like Shoeonhead pointed out in one of her recent videos, their anonymity lets them protect themselves from the "eternal HR longhouse" that will henpeck them for the "crimes" of saying men deserve love, because you cant intimidate and bully them. But the Left has so thoroughly lost the plot that nowadays normal looks like the Right-Wing to them.
According to other Hololive members, Gura/Saba REALLY IS that short and petite in real life.
Same with Koseki Bijou, who is 4'7" and often mistaken for a child.
With her voice, she doesn't really have much of a choice. Kind of typecast.
I mean, she has also been pretty open in the past that it isnt even type casting, she does like the look.
If you believe the stuff that has been found about her IRL looks, it is probably because she is in fact a petite woman IRL so why wouldnt she be one fictionally.
wow! this is riveting. the corpo-sponsored pedo bait is now, still, corpo-sponsored pedo bait? and you still love it and fight for it as if it were your god? we need this shown on national TV.
Cope and seethe
This stupid fucking exaggeration is doing you no favors. This is reddit behavior.
redditors love this weird anime shit, dude...
"Stop liking what I dislike!!"
Yeah... you're clearly a well-adjusted individual...
your reply is such a disgusting mixture of retarded and smug that it makes me think a woodchipper would come alive and develop sentience just to throw you up and demand something less revolting.
You should probably just kill yourself.
you guys never call me a liar, do you?
Pfft...
Weird anime shit predates reddit, and most of us tried to gatekeep them until Crunchyroll sold us all out.
From a shark to a mackerel? Seems like a downgrade.
The big "loli" culture war going on right now is just the most pathetic circle jerk of virtue signalling or obvious deflection I've ever seen.
Because on one hand you got the Woke and guys with obvious CP making a big fuss about it, and all anime, just so you don't accuse them of being pedos because obviously if they yell loudly enough that means they super hate it and can't possibly be one. The Dr. Pizza types we all know.
And then the other side is just tilting at every windmill possible because occasionally they find a hit. They all think they are Chris Hansen and get throbbing erections watching predator catcher channels online thinking about finally getting to physically assault someone while getting cheered on.
Lolishit is offputting, degenerate and often well into questionable territory. But its also so ingrained into the anime style from Japan that half the people complaining about it couldn't tell you where the line is between "generic anime girl" and "loli girl" is, which is how you get shit like Uzaki (canonically a college student) being tossed in. And most weebs have become so numb to it that it doesn't even register as anything more than a joke and archetype like tsundere and menhara instead of a "facsimile of a child."
But if the people who cried about it put even a fraction of the effort and hate into hating actual pedophiles we might have already killed the LGBT movement dead and protected some actual kids instead of getting a bunch of social media likes for being the biggest anti-loli crusader. They spent years trying to take down Shadman, probably the biggest lolicon artist, only for him to get arrested for assault relating to his drug habit and not having a single CP on him.
I don’t know, is drawing actual underaged children performing sex acts (something he actually did, along with drawing actual people like Hilary as lolis performing said sex acts) a crime? It isn’t the actual kid but a drawing, but who cares, Shadman’s a fucking weirdo anyway
No, the SCOTUS itself has ruled it is not unless its indistinguishable from a photo of the child, such as pasting their head on a nude body or is "reasonable to be believed" that it actually was them. Might fall under defamation though. Its in fact been protected as free speech multiple times.
Point being, the king of "Drawing lolishit" didn't get caught with anything so the reasoning of "all lolicons are also into CP" has a major chunk against it. Regardless of how gross they are, they aren't criminals by default.
The sheer number of facial expressions are off the charts! It's over 9000!
I heard a rumor that the Vtubers had to use their actual heights for their toons. Not weights obviously, lolz! Otherwise half of them would be 4' tall and the other half 6' tall (or something).
She really is tiny, that's been certified.
It depends. A lot of individuals who are Indie go wild and will make a model however they want, especially if they have no intention of a 3D model (where accurate measures matter). But when you have things like Hololive, it has been more or less confirmed that their models are proportional to their height and body because it makes it easier to make a 3D rig and then have them interact in a group together without clipping or other model weirdness.