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Gawr Gura has a new vtuber model (Saba). Twitter users immediately bitch about it being a loli model despite the fact that Gura's old vtuber model was also a loli model. Bonus points, the twitter user complaining about Gura's new model Saba being a loli is using a Gawr Gura profile picture. . (www.youtube.com)
posted 340 days ago by Telia 340 days ago by Telia +38 / -0
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– SocraticMethod1 17 points 340 days ago +17 / -0

The age of corpos also on the edge as her numbers were RIDICULOUS, she'll probably hit 1 million subscribers by the end of the week! Between this and Vshojo news, only corpo I haven't heard any bad thing from other than their bus stolen at offkai is Phase Connect.

But yeah, the 'loli debate' is still a BIG argument even on here. I maintain so long as it's purely fictional either drawn or animated not basing off real people, meh. Gets too much under thought police since as you'd have to then target stuff like vore, gore, psychological horror etc under the same premise. Just have a good reality/fiction divide and if you can't, then you shouldn't view it.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 21 points 340 days ago +21 / -0

We have too many real injured and harmed people, to worry about fake imaginary people. I'm not going to go to everyone who loves action movies and ask why they enjoy watching murder so much, and I'm not going to ask the shork feesh girl why she's small.

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– norwegianwikin 9 points 340 days ago +9 / -0

Everyone in phase is to autistic to have drama.

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– Agenda47 5 points 340 days ago +5 / -0

But yeah, the 'loli debate' is still a BIG argument even on here. I maintain so long as it's purely fictional either drawn or animated not basing off real people, meh.

Is this about porn? I thought you guys were talking about vtubers. I don't understand why the topics are conflated, from either side.

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– SocraticMethod1 7 points 340 days ago +7 / -0

No, loli refers to the body type not JUST porn.

The porn only one is called lolicon.

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– Agenda47 4 points 340 days ago +4 / -0

I know what the words mean. I was confused by what you meant. Was your comment about the 'loli debate' heading into a lolicon tangent and not about the vtubers?

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– SocraticMethod1 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

Ironically I was referring to the mere use of the body type by vtubers gets allegations of 'pedo bating'.

Like every one of them is on Bluesky.

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– Adamrises 3 points 339 days ago +3 / -0

The vtuber in question was one of the most famous for having a "loli" type avatar, and her new one is even more so. And her debut stream the chat was filled with meme phrases about lolicon stuff like "uohh" and "cunny."

Its conflated because the entire thing has long since entered into a nonsense where its clear most people just want anime period banned and are using the "lolicon" thing as a front for it.

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– TheModernDaVinci 4 points 340 days ago +4 / -0

I still think Holo is going to be fine, as they have largely bounced back from their controversies at the beginning of the year. But I do agree that a lot of corpo's are falling off and Indies are on the rise. Much like with gaming, the lows of Indies can be Mean Girl back biting, jealousy, and trash-tier models, but the heights can be so much better. I mean, just compare how expressive Saba's model is with Gura's and even if she didnt hate Hololive you can already tell how much better off she is.

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– SocraticMethod1 5 points 340 days ago +5 / -0

Yep, her model is quite emotive as shown here lol.

I agree, Hololive will probably be ok, same with the asylum called Phase Connect and probably Vshojo but there does seem to be a rise in indie and more unique even right leaning ones.

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– TheModernDaVinci 2 points 339 days ago +2 / -0

I dont know if I would even call most of the Indies like that "Right-leaning". Some are, like Leaflit and Kirsche, but most of the other ones that the Twitter Freaks have tried to cancel are just...normal. But they are free to say what is actual, normal beliefs and opinions because, like Shoeonhead pointed out in one of her recent videos, their anonymity lets them protect themselves from the "eternal HR longhouse" that will henpeck them for the "crimes" of saying men deserve love, because you cant intimidate and bully them. But the Left has so thoroughly lost the plot that nowadays normal looks like the Right-Wing to them.

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