I don't know how there's any coming back from this. Conservatives have been dead fish for decades now and thier only major win has been Trump, who did not campaign on any conservative values whatsoever. Now they've fully revealed themselves as the party of stupid culture war bullshit that no one actually cares about (women's sports, gay beer) and sacrificing our money and lives to Israel. Who but the biggest bootlicking dorks are going to vote for that? It's over for them. After Trump, a new, explicitly anti-israel party is going to have to form, otherwise it's democrat wins from now until the end of time m
Hell, I think that even though I know that's never going to happen (at least not in the foreseeable future) because both parties are funded by Israel, an anti-Israel stance alone would be a strong way of winning voters.
It's a shame that even the candidate the media calls alt-right and that they claim will cause permanent ruin to the country can't be bothered to raise a hand against them. At least I feel we should appreciate what we have during Trump's term (not saying that he's a golden cow here, he still deserves all the shit he gets for supporting Israel), since I think the next Dem president could be much worse than Biden ever was, even if there's room for libs to hate them.
Not to mention that unless we somehow replace FPTP with something much less vulnerable to the spoiler effect, the two party system is never changing unless either side starts failing horribly.
Its hard to appreciate feelgood wins that will be undone and then some with the communist take over that comes after Trump leaves. If I was a room temp IQ normie, I could, but I'm not.
Trump is solely responsible for what comes after. Same as Reagan and his disastrous amnesty, wars, anti trust breakdown, women's rights laws, etc
Notice the pattern...Republicans wreck shit on purpose to lay the foundation for leftist marches after.
Aye. I don't think they can completely undo all the J6 prisoners getting released at least. I think there was a lot of outcry from the left at that happening and several people on this sub never thought he would do it. If nothing else, I do feel glad (relieved, even) that we managed to get an actual second term of Trump after everything that happened. It at least gives me the hope that things can always just get the little bit better (In the sense of the pendulum swinging back). I won't hold my breath for Trump leaving a long lasting impact, but the more that his effects on the country stick, the better. Maybe he'll surprise everyone before his time in office is up.
But yeah, Republicans are too cowardly to take any steps to give their voters what they want, and I don't think that will even start to change without Israel going down first. I think for that reason we still have to avoid taking everything that Gab and c/patriots have said at face value for the forseeable future.
Hell, I have to wonder if the next Republican president after Trump (which I won't discount happening yet) will be treated like even more of a full-blown tyrant to the point liberals start saying, "Well, trump wasn't That bad compared to this guy" no matter how much he toes Israel's and Blackrock's pockets. I've heard that some critics of Trump have started saying that Bush II wasn't that bad in comparison.
I think there was a lot of outcry from the left at that happening
There is "outcry from the left" if Trump arrests a convicted murderer and tries to deport him.
J6 was a psi-op, the "rioters" were seeded with Agents and Antifa, this has been proven. The "J6 Committee" deliberately broke the rules for a lawful investigation, cherry-picked to reach pre-approved "findings" and withheld critical evidence, they tried to destroy it too.
Do better.
This one is definitely a Leftist-tier false comparison, which is both how I know that I'm doing something right, and that there is ultimately no meaningful distinction between the shitlibs and GOP.
The women screeching about A Handmaid's Tale being their future have zero material reason to actually believe that will be the future. It's the usual hysterical, histrionic, ignorant bullshit they've been getting away with for longer than I've been alive. The people (guaranteed to be 90%+ young men) saying "I will not fight and die for Israel" have not only the evidence of Israel literally just attacking another country and killing one of its leaders, but also the many decades now of hearing about how important Israel is to the US, all of the politicians going to kiss the Wailing Wall to show allegiance, the special treatment Israel and Jews receive from the American government, and a bazillion little whispering things like when they start putting White men back into military recruitment ads.
Tons of Gen X and Millennials will have their own kids by now, and they grew up watching 20 years of Operation Desert Storm, and Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Operation Enduring Freedom, and all the long dragged-out quagmires of bullshit in a disgusting desert that didn't change anything for the better, especially not at home. In fact, it all got worse. Now they all see that happening again, and so soon after the last one finally ended They do not want to see their children dragged off to still more of that for, once again, the same people crying and demanding we come help them or else we're bigots and antisemites. There simply is no "imaginary" to the threat of endless warring in the Middle East, it's been the standard for our whole lives, and we're extremely tired of it.
This meme stinks of the same intellectual creativity of "Woke Right" and "if you fight and kill your enemies you're just as bad as they are." I don't want to have to wait another 10-20 years for all the Boomers to actually completely die off because I may not even have a country by then. I don't know what a future political party looks like that actually attracts me, and has power enough to get something done. Trump is a man of convenience, but his time is desperately limited, and his power and influence are being constantly constrained and attacked. New parties have come and gone in the US's past, but how often was that during such tumultuous times, politically and socially?
What do you think the future looks like after Trump? Do you honestly think there's any hope anywhere in the GOP for true America First policies? Or are we just hoping Trump magically fixes it all now?
This meme is from a big conservative meme page on Facebook, who's been posting nothing but pro-israel shit lately and is getting roasted alive by the normally supportive comments. Flushing all his credibility down the toilet.
This meme is from a big conservative meme page on Facebook, who's been posting nothing but pro-israel shit lately and its getting roasted by the normally supportive comments.
If anything, doesn't that disprove your whole doomer framing?
Some retards are outing themselves as Zionists and neocons, and the actual people, by and large, aren't having it. The conservatives are condemning the people pretending to be conservatives, and all you can do is say "conservatives are scum, and finished."
You're witnessing the exact change you claim to want to see, and all you can do is doom. Conservatives have basically never supported Israel less than they do now, if that's your concern.
Its not "some" conservatives, it's literally all of them WITH POWER. Which is my point. We do not have any political representation anywhere in the GOP outside of Trump, who is not a conservative. Which to me signals the death of party.
Some retards are outing themselves as Zionists and neocons
You're witnessing the exact change you claim to want to see, and all you can do is doom. Conservatives have basically never supported Israel less than they do now, if that's your concern.
No, we’re discovering that we are still the silent majority by virtue of having no real institutional power. It doesn’t matter if 90% of Trump supporters oppose another war for Israel. It’s still going to happen if “our leaders” decide it’s going to happen.
Walsh and Carlson both criticize our ties with Israel. Walsh has actively called to ban duel citizenship especially from being elected and called Israel by name as an example. I think the boomers and gen x Israel dick riders are on the way out and Israel is about to find itself lonely
Its a terrible irony that we finally get a lot of major and mainstream criticisms of Israel and their nonsense, and its all Lefties doing it for the gayest reasons.
While the Right stumbles over itself to still act like the good goys who'd never bite them.
To be fair, I have been complaining that Conservatism is not our friend for a while now. It just happens to be vaguely not in alignment with the Left, but it is still very much working against the interests of normal people. Case in point: its desire to sacrifice blood and treasure for foreigners' interests. It just happens to be different foreigners than the Left wants to do the same for. They're also just as eager to censor people and strip them of their rights, again just on different stuff than the Left does. And lets not forget the ever present worship of the Line That Goes Up.
The ugly truth is that National Socialists are trying to subvert the right by claiming that real traditional values in a society that are also not pro-Israel, can only be done by Socialism.
This is not an attack on Republicans, it is an attack on Conservativism, and they are trying to paint Socialism as the real alternative to Leftism. Which tells you just how disingenuous is this is.
So it's part of America's traditional values to endlessly expend blood and treasure on behalf of a country that won't exist for another 150+ years is it? Get the fuck out of here with this shit you dishonest hack.
Your argument is that Conservativism is when George Washington wrote into the constitution that Israel must be defended at all costs.
This is because being honest and saying you want to advocate for Socialism, most people would understand that as a terrible idea, so you need to be subversive as hell and pretend that the American Conservative philosophy and traditional values need to be destroyed.
Shut your damn mouth Giz and stop trying to put words in mine to satisfy your own vain fantasies. You don't know a goddamn thing about what I believe and you've demonstrated that at length over the last several years.
Good thing Jefferson left the Pirates of the Barbary Coast (the proxy armies of Islam, with the blessing of the governments involved) alone eh? No need to fight overseas, ever! Right? 😏 No history of protecting US citizens & interests outside of the border, eh?
Being obtuse doesn't change that you are intentionally fabricating a false choice to argue """"third positionism"""" in order to destroy America's foundational values and principles to enact Socialism.
First the "woke right" and now this, I won't take anything those retards say seriously, until they demonstrate they enlisted an are ready to fight the war they care so much about.
They're circling the wagons!
The walls are closing in! 😄
Retarded nonsense. The Democrats & leftists have been funding wars for decades, actually trying to END a war by winning it is impossible for them to understand.
Obama had the victory in Iraq in his hands, he ignored all advice and "bugged out" letting ISIS overrun an army 20X their size.
Biden had as close to victory as was possible in Afghanistan in his hands, rather than withdraw, he bugged out & gave billions in ordinance to the enemy. The biggest defeat in US history.
But keep going lefties! This time for sure it'll work!
I don't know how there's any coming back from this. Conservatives have been dead fish for decades now and thier only major win has been Trump, who did not campaign on any conservative values whatsoever. Now they've fully revealed themselves as the party of stupid culture war bullshit that no one actually cares about (women's sports, gay beer) and sacrificing our money and lives to Israel. Who but the biggest bootlicking dorks are going to vote for that? It's over for them. After Trump, a new, explicitly anti-israel party is going to have to form, otherwise it's democrat wins from now until the end of time m
Hell, I think that even though I know that's never going to happen (at least not in the foreseeable future) because both parties are funded by Israel, an anti-Israel stance alone would be a strong way of winning voters.
It's a shame that even the candidate the media calls alt-right and that they claim will cause permanent ruin to the country can't be bothered to raise a hand against them. At least I feel we should appreciate what we have during Trump's term (not saying that he's a golden cow here, he still deserves all the shit he gets for supporting Israel), since I think the next Dem president could be much worse than Biden ever was, even if there's room for libs to hate them.
Not to mention that unless we somehow replace FPTP with something much less vulnerable to the spoiler effect, the two party system is never changing unless either side starts failing horribly.
Its hard to appreciate feelgood wins that will be undone and then some with the communist take over that comes after Trump leaves. If I was a room temp IQ normie, I could, but I'm not.
Trump is solely responsible for what comes after. Same as Reagan and his disastrous amnesty, wars, anti trust breakdown, women's rights laws, etc
Notice the pattern...Republicans wreck shit on purpose to lay the foundation for leftist marches after.
Aye. I don't think they can completely undo all the J6 prisoners getting released at least. I think there was a lot of outcry from the left at that happening and several people on this sub never thought he would do it. If nothing else, I do feel glad (relieved, even) that we managed to get an actual second term of Trump after everything that happened. It at least gives me the hope that things can always just get the little bit better (In the sense of the pendulum swinging back). I won't hold my breath for Trump leaving a long lasting impact, but the more that his effects on the country stick, the better. Maybe he'll surprise everyone before his time in office is up.
But yeah, Republicans are too cowardly to take any steps to give their voters what they want, and I don't think that will even start to change without Israel going down first. I think for that reason we still have to avoid taking everything that Gab and c/patriots have said at face value for the forseeable future.
Hell, I have to wonder if the next Republican president after Trump (which I won't discount happening yet) will be treated like even more of a full-blown tyrant to the point liberals start saying, "Well, trump wasn't That bad compared to this guy" no matter how much he toes Israel's and Blackrock's pockets. I've heard that some critics of Trump have started saying that Bush II wasn't that bad in comparison.
There is "outcry from the left" if Trump arrests a convicted murderer and tries to deport him.
J6 was a psi-op, the "rioters" were seeded with Agents and Antifa, this has been proven. The "J6 Committee" deliberately broke the rules for a lawful investigation, cherry-picked to reach pre-approved "findings" and withheld critical evidence, they tried to destroy it too.
Do better.
This one is definitely a Leftist-tier false comparison, which is both how I know that I'm doing something right, and that there is ultimately no meaningful distinction between the shitlibs and GOP.
The women screeching about A Handmaid's Tale being their future have zero material reason to actually believe that will be the future. It's the usual hysterical, histrionic, ignorant bullshit they've been getting away with for longer than I've been alive. The people (guaranteed to be 90%+ young men) saying "I will not fight and die for Israel" have not only the evidence of Israel literally just attacking another country and killing one of its leaders, but also the many decades now of hearing about how important Israel is to the US, all of the politicians going to kiss the Wailing Wall to show allegiance, the special treatment Israel and Jews receive from the American government, and a bazillion little whispering things like when they start putting White men back into military recruitment ads.
Tons of Gen X and Millennials will have their own kids by now, and they grew up watching 20 years of Operation Desert Storm, and Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Operation Enduring Freedom, and all the long dragged-out quagmires of bullshit in a disgusting desert that didn't change anything for the better, especially not at home. In fact, it all got worse. Now they all see that happening again, and so soon after the last one finally ended They do not want to see their children dragged off to still more of that for, once again, the same people crying and demanding we come help them or else we're bigots and antisemites. There simply is no "imaginary" to the threat of endless warring in the Middle East, it's been the standard for our whole lives, and we're extremely tired of it.
This meme stinks of the same intellectual creativity of "Woke Right" and "if you fight and kill your enemies you're just as bad as they are." I don't want to have to wait another 10-20 years for all the Boomers to actually completely die off because I may not even have a country by then. I don't know what a future political party looks like that actually attracts me, and has power enough to get something done. Trump is a man of convenience, but his time is desperately limited, and his power and influence are being constantly constrained and attacked. New parties have come and gone in the US's past, but how often was that during such tumultuous times, politically and socially?
Hey, look, you made yet another thread bashing conservatives. And so soon. With another no context jpeg. Very cool.
What do you think the future looks like after Trump? Do you honestly think there's any hope anywhere in the GOP for true America First policies? Or are we just hoping Trump magically fixes it all now?
Depends on how fast the boomers expire. This is a generational split on the right.
Boomers die and an actual far right party rises
If conservatives stopped falling for stupid things and stopped being such israel puppets, people wouldn't have to bash conservatives.
This meme is from a big conservative meme page on Facebook, who's been posting nothing but pro-israel shit lately and is getting roasted alive by the normally supportive comments. Flushing all his credibility down the toilet.
If anything, doesn't that disprove your whole doomer framing?
Some retards are outing themselves as Zionists and neocons, and the actual people, by and large, aren't having it. The conservatives are condemning the people pretending to be conservatives, and all you can do is say "conservatives are scum, and finished."
You're witnessing the exact change you claim to want to see, and all you can do is doom. Conservatives have basically never supported Israel less than they do now, if that's your concern.
Its not "some" conservatives, it's literally all of them WITH POWER. Which is my point. We do not have any political representation anywhere in the GOP outside of Trump, who is not a conservative. Which to me signals the death of party.
No, we’re discovering that we are still the silent majority by virtue of having no real institutional power. It doesn’t matter if 90% of Trump supporters oppose another war for Israel. It’s still going to happen if “our leaders” decide it’s going to happen.
Yeah, the anti-Zionist wing of the right needs some better representation.
It's currently lead mostly by Nick Fuentes, who is embarrassing to be associated with.
Then there are Jake Shields, Dan Bilzerian, Lucas Gage types that are mostly living memes.
Matt Walsh and Tucker Carlson are about it for non-Zionist conservative pundits.
They are probably better described as centrists who mostly avoid criticizing Israel directly.
Walsh and Carlson both criticize our ties with Israel. Walsh has actively called to ban duel citizenship especially from being elected and called Israel by name as an example. I think the boomers and gen x Israel dick riders are on the way out and Israel is about to find itself lonely
Its a terrible irony that we finally get a lot of major and mainstream criticisms of Israel and their nonsense, and its all Lefties doing it for the gayest reasons.
While the Right stumbles over itself to still act like the good goys who'd never bite them.
To be fair, I have been complaining that Conservatism is not our friend for a while now. It just happens to be vaguely not in alignment with the Left, but it is still very much working against the interests of normal people. Case in point: its desire to sacrifice blood and treasure for foreigners' interests. It just happens to be different foreigners than the Left wants to do the same for. They're also just as eager to censor people and strip them of their rights, again just on different stuff than the Left does. And lets not forget the ever present worship of the Line That Goes Up.
The ugly truth is that National Socialists are trying to subvert the right by claiming that real traditional values in a society that are also not pro-Israel, can only be done by Socialism.
This is not an attack on Republicans, it is an attack on Conservativism, and they are trying to paint Socialism as the real alternative to Leftism. Which tells you just how disingenuous is this is.
So it's part of America's traditional values to endlessly expend blood and treasure on behalf of a country that won't exist for another 150+ years is it? Get the fuck out of here with this shit you dishonest hack.
It isn't, but that's your argument.
Your argument is that Conservativism is when George Washington wrote into the constitution that Israel must be defended at all costs.
This is because being honest and saying you want to advocate for Socialism, most people would understand that as a terrible idea, so you need to be subversive as hell and pretend that the American Conservative philosophy and traditional values need to be destroyed.
Shut your damn mouth Giz and stop trying to put words in mine to satisfy your own vain fantasies. You don't know a goddamn thing about what I believe and you've demonstrated that at length over the last several years.
For the most part you're carrying water for what the Nazis believe because you think they're White Naitonalists, but they're not even that.
Good thing Jefferson left the Pirates of the Barbary Coast (the proxy armies of Islam, with the blessing of the governments involved) alone eh? No need to fight overseas, ever! Right? 😏 No history of protecting US citizens & interests outside of the border, eh?
a lot of buzzwords, not a lot of substance from our fine resident jackass.
what have you conserved, buddy old boy? i just conserved some sour cherries, very delicious.
Being obtuse doesn't change that you are intentionally fabricating a false choice to argue """"third positionism"""" in order to destroy America's foundational values and principles to enact Socialism.
Just stop fucking lying.
You really need to work on saying things outright instead of just assigning them to umbrella labels that you have associated with good and bad.
If he didn't have windmills he'd just be on tilt.
First the "woke right" and now this, I won't take anything those retards say seriously, until they demonstrate they enlisted an are ready to fight the war they care so much about.
Wanna help Isreal? You go first, nigga
They're circling the wagons!
The walls are closing in! 😄
Retarded nonsense. The Democrats & leftists have been funding wars for decades, actually trying to END a war by winning it is impossible for them to understand.
Obama had the victory in Iraq in his hands, he ignored all advice and "bugged out" letting ISIS overrun an army 20X their size.
Biden had as close to victory as was possible in Afghanistan in his hands, rather than withdraw, he bugged out & gave billions in ordinance to the enemy. The biggest defeat in US history.
But keep going lefties! This time for sure it'll work!
Funny how what she's afraid of WILL happen under Islam once the Global Caliphate is established? IS going to be helped by what he's saying.
Handmaid was written with Islam as a model, but she chickened out and later claimed it wasn't. I guess the fatwah on Rushdie got her attention.