The students are letting AI do their work for them.
Two and a half years later, students at large state schools, the Ivies, liberal-arts schools in New England, universities abroad, professional schools, and community colleges are relying on AI to ease their way through every facet of their education. Generative-AI chatbots — ChatGPT but also Google’s Gemini, Anthropic’s Claude, Microsoft’s Copilot, and others — take their notes during class, devise their study guides and practice tests, summarize novels and textbooks, and brainstorm, outline, and draft their essays. STEM students are using AI to automate their research and data analyses and to sail through dense coding and debugging assignments. “College is just how well I can use ChatGPT at this point,” a student in Utah recently captioned a video of herself copy-and-pasting a chapter from her Genocide and Mass Atrocity textbook into ChatGPT.
The 'professors' are letting AI mark their work for them.
It’s not just the students: Multiple AI platforms now offer tools to leave AI-generated feedback on students’ essays. Which raises the possibility that AIs are now evaluating AI-generated papers, reducing the entire academic exercise to a conversation between two robots — or maybe even just one.
The end result is people becoming even more stupid:
The so-called Flynn effect refers to the consistent rise in IQ scores from generation to generation going back to at least the 1930s. That rise started to slow, and in some cases reverse, around 2006. “The greatest worry in these times of generative AI is not that it may compromise human creativity or intelligence,” Robert Sternberg, a psychology professor at Cornell University, told The Guardian, “but that it already has.”
Imagine Maxine Waters, multiplied with Cory Booker and Sandy Cortez. And then add Miss Ratchet and Dylan Mulvaney.
IQs are going down in America because the Hispanic population is exploding. Blaming the stupification on AI is just another desperate attempt to maintain the sacred cow of blank slate theory.
So you think kids using AI for all their assignments and other thinking tasks isn't going stunt their intellectual development? I have a bridge to sell that ChatGPT says will be perfect for you.
It's not helping, but the main culprit is racial demographics and that predates the arrival of AI. The slide started before AI arrived on the scene. If you're still in denial about that then you're a fool.
I mostly agree, but at the same time, many of these college "educations" weren't worth anything to begin with. I'm not sure using ChatGPT for your Gender Studies degree is going to make you any dumber than you otherwise would be. Indeed, you might be smarter.
People are becoming more stupid as a result of changing demographics.
These tools are amazing and have the potential to increase productivity immensely. But if the only result of that productivity is more gibs for the undeserving then we're going to get more of what is subsidized.
Alcohol, tobacco, and refined sugar all were amazingly bad for the human race, too, and yet drove forward societal developments and significant advancements.
Hopefully there's some way that education can be saved. The teaching approach may need to be radically redesigned to have all work done inside of the classroom, on paper, and only assign reading outside of the classroom.
Group work in an analog environment may become much more important as well.
I'm beginning to suspect that the way most courses can be gamed and sailed through via the use of LLMs is more a comment on how poor all the professors are.
It wasn't that long ago when I as in college and all my courses were basically on a four-exam grading schedule and said exam was done, hand-written, in class.
(God, those fucking exam essays. I HATED writing those out.)
The only time I ever got a large 'take home' exam-level grade was basically a 'we're going to give you one solid A as long as you actually bother to turn this damn thing in'. Or it was a full-on book essay where I had to basically make a thesis and defend the fucking thing.
I guess things really have changed alot. Probably due to covid.
Hopefully there's some way that education can be saved.
Yes. Expell foreigners. Severely limit use of computers at school. Teachers will use the union to keep kids retarded though.
Just having the kids write things down with a pen and paper is better. Yet somehow what was still the norm in the 1990's is now impossible ( kids can't write, teachers got lazy, and that's not improving without practice, which teacher will refuse to make happen. ).
No doubt extremely ''educated'' academics will shoot the idea down for being ''abelist'' or whatever magic buzzword necessary to get their way.
I was in highschool in the 2000's. And my essays were handwritten 2 or 3 years. Teachers were already getting uppity about it though.
Let it die. It's already been largely rejected by young men trying to find skills long before now. We have the trade schools for that. The university system can return to being private academies of learning for scholars, or keep being paid vacations for wealthy brats whose parents want them to influence politics. I have no interest in saving their reputations.
Remember you're not talking about secondary school. You're talking about adults who should be paying to go there to learn something for their own benefit. If you have to set up systems to prevent cheating, the whole exercise is flawed.
Whatever the university evolves into, they will need to take drastic reforms to address generative AI. Scholarly learning will be hit just as hard as anything else.
The students are letting AI do their work for them.
The 'professors' are letting AI mark their work for them.
The end result is people becoming even more stupid:
Imagine Maxine Waters, multiplied with Cory Booker and Sandy Cortez. And then add Miss Ratchet and Dylan Mulvaney.
It's the end of the world as we know it!
IQs are going down in America because the Hispanic population is exploding. Blaming the stupification on AI is just another desperate attempt to maintain the sacred cow of blank slate theory.
So you think kids using AI for all their assignments and other thinking tasks isn't going stunt their intellectual development? I have a bridge to sell that ChatGPT says will be perfect for you.
It's not helping, but the main culprit is racial demographics and that predates the arrival of AI. The slide started before AI arrived on the scene. If you're still in denial about that then you're a fool.
In 20 years' time AI is definitely going to be the main culprit
I mostly agree, but at the same time, many of these college "educations" weren't worth anything to begin with. I'm not sure using ChatGPT for your Gender Studies degree is going to make you any dumber than you otherwise would be. Indeed, you might be smarter.
Smart people use AI to save time. Stupid people use AI to stay stupid. It's not anything we can stop.
Leave it to the social justice crowd to ruin it all:
Also perfectly sums up why academia as a whole has become a joke. Making students "feel good" is more important than actual education.
People are becoming more stupid as a result of changing demographics.
These tools are amazing and have the potential to increase productivity immensely. But if the only result of that productivity is more gibs for the undeserving then we're going to get more of what is subsidized.
"These tools are amazing"ly bad for the human race
Alcohol, tobacco, and refined sugar all were amazingly bad for the human race, too, and yet drove forward societal developments and significant advancements.
As a side-effect, maybe, not for any good that they themselves did.
So was the spear.
Hopefully there's some way that education can be saved. The teaching approach may need to be radically redesigned to have all work done inside of the classroom, on paper, and only assign reading outside of the classroom.
Group work in an analog environment may become much more important as well.
I'm beginning to suspect that the way most courses can be gamed and sailed through via the use of LLMs is more a comment on how poor all the professors are.
It wasn't that long ago when I as in college and all my courses were basically on a four-exam grading schedule and said exam was done, hand-written, in class.
(God, those fucking exam essays. I HATED writing those out.)
The only time I ever got a large 'take home' exam-level grade was basically a 'we're going to give you one solid A as long as you actually bother to turn this damn thing in'. Or it was a full-on book essay where I had to basically make a thesis and defend the fucking thing.
I guess things really have changed alot. Probably due to covid.
but muh covid
Don't forget Monkeypox... I'm sure they'll bring it back once we forget about the kids and the dogs getting it.
Yes. Expell foreigners. Severely limit use of computers at school. Teachers will use the union to keep kids retarded though.
Just having the kids write things down with a pen and paper is better. Yet somehow what was still the norm in the 1990's is now impossible ( kids can't write, teachers got lazy, and that's not improving without practice, which teacher will refuse to make happen. ).
No doubt extremely ''educated'' academics will shoot the idea down for being ''abelist'' or whatever magic buzzword necessary to get their way.
I was in highschool in the 2000's. And my essays were handwritten 2 or 3 years. Teachers were already getting uppity about it though.
Let it die. It's already been largely rejected by young men trying to find skills long before now. We have the trade schools for that. The university system can return to being private academies of learning for scholars, or keep being paid vacations for wealthy brats whose parents want them to influence politics. I have no interest in saving their reputations.
Remember you're not talking about secondary school. You're talking about adults who should be paying to go there to learn something for their own benefit. If you have to set up systems to prevent cheating, the whole exercise is flawed.
Whatever the university evolves into, they will need to take drastic reforms to address generative AI. Scholarly learning will be hit just as hard as anything else.
The universities were hotbeds of fraud long before Generative AI. Look up the replication crisis.