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Everyone Is Cheating Their Way Through College. ChatGPT has unraveled the entire academic project. NYMag (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by LastRights 1 year ago by LastRights +95 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Hopefully there's some way that education can be saved. The teaching approach may need to be radically redesigned to have all work done inside of the classroom, on paper, and only assign reading outside of the classroom.

Group work in an analog environment may become much more important as well.

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– Grant_us_eyes 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

I'm beginning to suspect that the way most courses can be gamed and sailed through via the use of LLMs is more a comment on how poor all the professors are.

It wasn't that long ago when I as in college and all my courses were basically on a four-exam grading schedule and said exam was done, hand-written, in class.

(God, those fucking exam essays. I HATED writing those out.)

The only time I ever got a large 'take home' exam-level grade was basically a 'we're going to give you one solid A as long as you actually bother to turn this damn thing in'. Or it was a full-on book essay where I had to basically make a thesis and defend the fucking thing.

I guess things really have changed alot. Probably due to covid.

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– ProdigalPlaneswalker 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

in class.

but muh covid

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Don't forget Monkeypox... I'm sure they'll bring it back once we forget about the kids and the dogs getting it.

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– RoulerBleu 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Hopefully there's some way that education can be saved.

Yes. Expell foreigners. Severely limit use of computers at school. Teachers will use the union to keep kids retarded though.

Just having the kids write things down with a pen and paper is better. Yet somehow what was still the norm in the 1990's is now impossible ( kids can't write, teachers got lazy, and that's not improving without practice, which teacher will refuse to make happen. ).

No doubt extremely ''educated'' academics will shoot the idea down for being ''abelist'' or whatever magic buzzword necessary to get their way.

I was in highschool in the 2000's. And my essays were handwritten 2 or 3 years. Teachers were already getting uppity about it though.

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– Agenda47 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Let it die. It's already been largely rejected by young men trying to find skills long before now. We have the trade schools for that. The university system can return to being private academies of learning for scholars, or keep being paid vacations for wealthy brats whose parents want them to influence politics. I have no interest in saving their reputations.

Remember you're not talking about secondary school. You're talking about adults who should be paying to go there to learn something for their own benefit. If you have to set up systems to prevent cheating, the whole exercise is flawed.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Whatever the university evolves into, they will need to take drastic reforms to address generative AI. Scholarly learning will be hit just as hard as anything else.

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

The universities were hotbeds of fraud long before Generative AI. Look up the replication crisis.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Indeed. But they are heading toward existential levels of uselessness.

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