We're in the lull between storms, between civilizational collapses, and have been so coddled by relative peace and prosperity that many think this current state is how the world is, and always will be, revealing their arrogance and foolishness to world history, and they can't see the looming collapse, which becomes more apparent by the day. I'm sure many Romans felt the exact same way, right until the Visigoth armies entered the city. But, prepping is becoming more common, even among normies, and is no longer considered "fringe". Even though most who prep probably can't accurately and completely define and describe our problems, the causes, and solutions, they only know that something bad is looming on the horizon, so they prepare.
When the collapse hits, a whole lot of stuff is going to "happen". The people in power will try to slow roll it as much as they can, because they know what's going to happen to them when it does, but they won't be able to stop it. It's unknown what measures they'll take, which is the big question to consider. Taking into account their actions thus far, it should be fairly easy to predict what they'll do (more censorship, more police state, more infringement of liberties, more government, more tyranny), which will all be for naught.
As for Alberta seceding, it's nigh on an impossibility that it will occur before the collapse. Unless Canada's economy and welfare gibs start to collapse, and the now prolific non-white population of Alberta joins forces with the White conservatives to secede, it won't happen. The non-whites would only go along with this, in an attempt to keep the welfare gibs flowing. Non-whites in the West, regardless of nation, always vote majority left wing, bigger government, more welfare, and more taxes on Whitey.
Do it! Take Saskatchewan with you. Split the country in half, and force them to connect via trains and planes. BC will fall without a fight. Yukon won't even be a contest. Watch Toronto squirm as they drink from bags of milk. Make Ottawa get a better hockey team.
Do it! I want this to happen. 51st state without a fight.
Complain and passive aggressively bitch at each other under a thick veneer of politeness until one side gives up.
Likely Ottawa would bog the whole thing down in paperwork and the provinces would politely accept, and the "secession" would take 20 years, and lose all the features that made it appealing in the first place, and leave the province still shackled to Canada the way Great Britain is to the EU.
Though... Keep an eye on Quebec, the PQ is looking to take another run at it next election, and if the liberals fuck up the country enough (it's not a question of if, only degree and speed) they might beat Alberta to the punch.
They would freeze and seize the banks of any major proponents of the action and then try to muzzle them using trumped up charges, while ostensibly saying "it's entirely your choice... Also, just in case your choice isn't made up yet, just letting you know we've given several-year prison sentences with no charges to a few more people who've made the wrong choice."
Beyond that, I don't think Canada has any systems in place for secession, despite Quebec's constant threat of it: It's like a teenager threatening to run away from home, they acknowledge the statement and never set up any systems.
The Canadian government said that they would negociate only after a ''clear majority'' vote in a secession referendum.
The government of Québec insists that their referendum law is ''50%+1'' is the criteria.
The 1995 referendum was lost by a margin smaller than the number of expeditious extra citizenship the government of Canada rushed in the months prior to the referendum ( and 90%+ of immigrants in Québec vote against independance ).
It was the only time in Canadian history that more new citizenships were granted in Québec than Ontario. And it never happened again ( untill the next referendum if one ever happens ).
Québec independance grows ever more unlikely with the progression of the genocide-by-mass-migration.
Quebec has been trying for decades and people vote no.
If Alberta does it, it'll give Quebec a black eye they'll never recover from.
Alberta is the main provice Quebec's gimmies come from anyway. Some insane amount of money is given to Quebec, so the french can say they're doing really well.
If Alberta kept that money instead, I can't imagine how far ahead they would be than the rest of the country.
Unlikely, but on the off chance it does happen it might end in a race to the bottom, where both Alberta and Quebec are trying to be the first out of this failing country, and the whole thing just collapses.
The Libs who just won made it abundantly clear that they would keep trying to abolish Québec's secularism charter.
People in Québec don't agree on much. But they do agree that government employees on work hours should not display religious or political affiliations.
The ''employees in position of authority'' ( teachers, judges, police officers ) was a limp-wrist compromise. And people cucked further by adding a grandfather clause ( meaning the law only applies to new hires ).
People do not want the federal government to cuck them futher on this, and when the Canadian government tries to intervene into the matter, it is viewed as foreing interference.
I just watched matt christiansen talk about it - so consider myself a well informed expert now - but it seems like canada has to respect the vote of the province if the province votes to leave
Nothing ever happens.
I saw a post earlier today with Pajeets calling for mass rape and murder of westerners because a mental patient beat a nurse
Until it does...
We're in the lull between storms, between civilizational collapses, and have been so coddled by relative peace and prosperity that many think this current state is how the world is, and always will be, revealing their arrogance and foolishness to world history, and they can't see the looming collapse, which becomes more apparent by the day. I'm sure many Romans felt the exact same way, right until the Visigoth armies entered the city. But, prepping is becoming more common, even among normies, and is no longer considered "fringe". Even though most who prep probably can't accurately and completely define and describe our problems, the causes, and solutions, they only know that something bad is looming on the horizon, so they prepare.
When the collapse hits, a whole lot of stuff is going to "happen". The people in power will try to slow roll it as much as they can, because they know what's going to happen to them when it does, but they won't be able to stop it. It's unknown what measures they'll take, which is the big question to consider. Taking into account their actions thus far, it should be fairly easy to predict what they'll do (more censorship, more police state, more infringement of liberties, more government, more tyranny), which will all be for naught.
As for Alberta seceding, it's nigh on an impossibility that it will occur before the collapse. Unless Canada's economy and welfare gibs start to collapse, and the now prolific non-white population of Alberta joins forces with the White conservatives to secede, it won't happen. The non-whites would only go along with this, in an attempt to keep the welfare gibs flowing. Non-whites in the West, regardless of nation, always vote majority left wing, bigger government, more welfare, and more taxes on Whitey.
Yep. Not even chimp outs or riots.
Do it! Take Saskatchewan with you. Split the country in half, and force them to connect via trains and planes. BC will fall without a fight. Yukon won't even be a contest. Watch Toronto squirm as they drink from bags of milk. Make Ottawa get a better hockey team.
Do it! I want this to happen. 51st state without a fight.
BC seems more woke than a san Francisco monkeypox orgy
Vancouver and the yuppies? Yes, totally.
Most people in the area? They probably don't even know since the yuppies won't let them know.
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what is Canada's policy on secession? the US made it clear that secession means war and death.
Complain and passive aggressively bitch at each other under a thick veneer of politeness until one side gives up.
Likely Ottawa would bog the whole thing down in paperwork and the provinces would politely accept, and the "secession" would take 20 years, and lose all the features that made it appealing in the first place, and leave the province still shackled to Canada the way Great Britain is to the EU.
Though... Keep an eye on Quebec, the PQ is looking to take another run at it next election, and if the liberals fuck up the country enough (it's not a question of if, only degree and speed) they might beat Alberta to the punch.
They would freeze and seize the banks of any major proponents of the action and then try to muzzle them using trumped up charges, while ostensibly saying "it's entirely your choice... Also, just in case your choice isn't made up yet, just letting you know we've given several-year prison sentences with no charges to a few more people who've made the wrong choice."
Beyond that, I don't think Canada has any systems in place for secession, despite Quebec's constant threat of it: It's like a teenager threatening to run away from home, they acknowledge the statement and never set up any systems.
The Canadian government said that they would negociate only after a ''clear majority'' vote in a secession referendum.
The government of Québec insists that their referendum law is ''50%+1'' is the criteria.
The 1995 referendum was lost by a margin smaller than the number of expeditious extra citizenship the government of Canada rushed in the months prior to the referendum ( and 90%+ of immigrants in Québec vote against independance ).
It was the only time in Canadian history that more new citizenships were granted in Québec than Ontario. And it never happened again ( untill the next referendum if one ever happens ).
Québec independance grows ever more unlikely with the progression of the genocide-by-mass-migration.
There's a law allowing secession, the clarity act. It's just written really poorly and is obviously unknown territory legally.
Same as EU.
Takes decades, gets overridden several times to thwart the will of the people, ultimately get drowned in jeets anyway.
Quebec has been using threats of secession for decades to strong arm the fed into doing what it wants
For Quebec? It was 50% +1 vote and they're out.
Modern Liberals will never allow the only "pay-in" Province to leave, this is their cash cow!
I give it maybe 5% odds
Same. 25% odds the referendum thresholds go through, and 20% after that that they actually secede -- 5%.
They'll never do it.
Quebec has been trying for decades and people vote no.
If Alberta does it, it'll give Quebec a black eye they'll never recover from.
Alberta is the main provice Quebec's gimmies come from anyway. Some insane amount of money is given to Quebec, so the french can say they're doing really well.
If Alberta kept that money instead, I can't imagine how far ahead they would be than the rest of the country.
Honestly, I don't want them in the US. If they had done it back in the late 90s or early 00s then that is a different story.
Hey, they make up majority of the crude oil production of the entire country. I'd still take the cold Texas.
They don't have to be in the US. It can be a Guam situation.
Unlikely, but on the off chance it does happen it might end in a race to the bottom, where both Alberta and Quebec are trying to be the first out of this failing country, and the whole thing just collapses.
The Libs who just won made it abundantly clear that they would keep trying to abolish Québec's secularism charter.
People in Québec don't agree on much. But they do agree that government employees on work hours should not display religious or political affiliations.
The ''employees in position of authority'' ( teachers, judges, police officers ) was a limp-wrist compromise. And people cucked further by adding a grandfather clause ( meaning the law only applies to new hires ).
People do not want the federal government to cuck them futher on this, and when the Canadian government tries to intervene into the matter, it is viewed as foreing interference.
No. Even if they get the votes in real life, it's who counts the votes that matter
Canada reminds me of the baltic states in how "our national identity is that we're not THOSE GUYS" is the basis of their countries.
On one hand, wouldn't expect anything else from a cuck, on another this just feels unreal.
I just watched matt christiansen talk about it - so consider myself a well informed expert now - but it seems like canada has to respect the vote of the province if the province votes to leave
No. And if it does it will he controlled by some Zionist right wing grifter.
While I'm sure they are tired of all the shit back east, they're still Canadian and will pussy out. Even Frenchies in Quebec pussied out.