You're forgetting the part where it kills off the main male lead [Costner] offscreen and the one who "gives" the ranch "back" is one of the women who does so for like 3 dollars because that's what the land was bought for decades/centuries prior.
Aren't they still going to have to pay land tax or something after? 🤔 Or is that a problem for after the show where the message and reality are no longer important? 👀
I didn't watch it, just watched a recap. But it was a contract thing or some contrivance where they could only sell it at the same price they bought it for a century earlier
The entire plot of 1883 is stupid teenage girl making stupid decisions while her parents sit back and go “well that’s her decision!”. Her stupidity eventually kills her which sets up the basis of the main series. The rest of it is ok, but having the main plot being so mind numbingly moronic kills any positive aspects of the show.
Now, to be fair, her getting an arrow of shit to her gut wasn't really entirely her fault as she was reacting to bad luck that lead to the retaliatory attack. If I remembered correctly.
1923 however, 90 percent of poor Spencer Dutton's plight could've completely been avoided if the stupid bitch just book another boat without him and met him in New York.
The “bad luck” was literally a culmination of her stupidity, if she didn’t run off to do stupid shit she would have been alive. The entire story was about how “wild and free spirited” she was, when she would have been fine if her dad had the balls to say “no” to her at any given time.
I'm not going back and rewatch but wasn't her dad and mustache man who stumbled on a massacre scene and realized they need to flee to a fort before the indians track their hooves and think it's their train that did it? and she decided to ride off to give the rest of the ikea crew time to run away, gets arrowed and convinced the leader her daddy is off to find the actual killers?
You can say she shouldn't have gone and play hero but the chain of events started when they stumbled on the massacre. Had she stayed with the main caravan she'd end up getting attacked right?
But yeah to your point, when her dad let her wear pants and hook up with an indian it was just a matter of time.
You can say she shouldn't have gone and play hero but the chain of events started when they stumbled on the massacre. Had she stayed with the main caravan she'd end up getting attacked right?
That’s the point though, she died “girl bossing”. You could argue she still might have died under different circumstances, but she directly died because she repeatedly made dumb choices and did so often at the cost of others.
Sheridan has a great talent for taking a good premise (ranch life, oil men politics, etc) and dropping in as many grrlbosses or obnoxious women on soapboxes as he can get away with. The women in Landmen were exceptionally annoying and you could skip the wife/daughter side plots without missing anything. Nothing they do on their own ties into the main plot at all.
As for Yellowstone, I fell in love with the premise and the setting. Gorgeous backdrops of the ranch, Kevin Costner is a strong lead, interesting politics, etc. But then the women came on. One by one every one of them annoyed the shit out of me. Everyone gets a mandatory five minute soapbox lecture about whatever political gripe they have. I gave up when they let a woman into the cowboys group (who always wins poker or whatever they are doing on downtime). Sheridan wouldn't even let the guys have that little piece of the show to themselves
1923 is interesting, you can safely skip most of the indian scenes and not miss anything important, also there's a useless bdsm sub plot that get ridiculous, still not bearing on the episodes to safely skip through, most skippable scenes disappear perfectly with 30-90 second skip.
Yellowstone is a fun first season with just skipping the ridiculous plot armor of Beth scenes. It starts as a cowboy cult crime family and turns into 20 different misunderstood heroes, really really not worth finishing, I must have been stockholme syndromed into finishing it.
1883 is little whore on the prairie, but it's a fun comedic watch. after burying her first husband she knew for 5 minutes, she bones an indian and immediately goes white girl in the hood style, which to me is a perfect allegory for letting your daughter have too much freedom. Also the indians are accurately shown to be mostly irrational stone age people. Yes some of the bad guys are white, but this tracks for the period.
Tulsa King is just schlock, but mostly enjoyable. Just over the top crime dramady.
Mayor of Kingstown is a ridiculous premise, but I do enjoy seeing his SUPER leftist mother's takes just from a comedic point, and I'm a Renner fan. RIP his junk from his snow cat accident.
Land Man has been OK. The 30 year old girl playing his daughter is hot enough, but no way passes for a 16-18? year old. Ali Laughter is like a lifetime crush, and she portrays a vapid trophy wife perfectly, and provides ample T&A but many scenes get ridiculous and cringy. The bad guys are not all just incompetent white nitwits, mostly it's mexicans, and blacks are shown to be very tribal appropriately. It's a fun completely over the top portrayal of oil grab ridiculousness.
Every show will have a "conservative" style lead, who somehow adopts a ridiculously naive liberaly and schools her on some talking point of the day, but then after establishing himself as a "conservative man" will end up having some ridiculously cucked opinions eventually.
I know modern media takes some negotiation to get on the air, so I skip or ignore the stupidist parts and just enjoy watching Billy Bob, Stallone, Costner, etc. It's like a Tom Cruise movie. He's a raging loon, but can deliver a good time when needed.
If you need to watch a show, they're ok, nothing great so far. I hold out hope for Landman to be really awesome.
Landman is fine if you liked Friday Night Lights and want to see an grown up version of that with needless grit and over the top drama. Great if you're having a few beers, playing a game and having it in the background or just turning your brain off.
Tyler Sheridan is a peddler of woke slop. Some of his movies and shows have interesting elements, in that they explore gritty social issues and realities, however the narratives are invariably hijacked and injected with current day woke garbage.
Wind River: about sexual assault on reservations, primarily depicting white aggressors, whereas it's much more likely that Native American men are to blame themselves.
Yellowstone: amongst many other woke-slop story elements, the previous mentioned theme is again explored here. This time it's once again white perpetrators, despite a 40% rate of domestic abuse in Native American reservations. Sure, the white devil did it all.
Sicario: about drug traffic and human smuggling across the Mexican-American border. Been some time since I saw it but the main character and POV protagonist is a stick-figure white woman working in an elite field unit. Sure.
All of his shows and movies are riddled with woke rot talking points and are meant to stealh-cultivate a guilty conscience amongst white men.
Typical that most of his works have men as their target audience. Can't have guy entertainment without a woke lecture.
Sicario? Legendary movie. But that was a collaboration with Denis Villeneuve, so Sheridan wasn't the only heavy hitter on deck.
Wind River was all Taylor. Good movie and great gunfights, but it does show. The possibilities for the "mystery" are literally A or B. Elizabeth Olsen also kind of reprises the same kind of ingenue role as Emily Blunt from Sicario, but not to the same extent. Can't complain about the choice of actresses.
Everything else is soap opera with enough watchability to keep the audience on the slop train. If you have any, and I mean ANY common sense, this will immediately be manifest. Also for some strange reason, as soon as Sheridan starts writing for TV he loves his girlbosses. But there's plenty shameless red meat for the conservative crowd, so they keep watching.
Example: in one of the early Yellowstone episodes a cowboy saves a couple of idiot Asian tourists from a grizzly bear, but then they fall off a cliff and die anyway (lol). Also the main characters KO, kill, or diddle anyone they feel like at any time.
I adore Hell or High Water, what a no-holds-barred masculine film. You don't realise it until you watch some other current-day slop and then think back to just how grounded Hell or High Water was -- reminded me of the crime thrillers from the 1970s: all masculine and straight business.
I find his shows are like his movies, hit or miss. I only watched 1 season of Yellowstone couldn't stand the Beth character so gave up on it. I like Mayor of Kingston and Tulsa King. Just finished Landman and really enjoyed it.
I haven't seen any of Lioness or the Yellowstone spin-offs.
I think Yellowstone is the more soap opera-ish of what I've seen.
It's been awhile since we've had a good show where the protagonists just keep winning because shit just keeps going their way, its a bit refreshing after a decade of doomer slop.
Don't have an issue with that. It's just not a well written show. But fortunately it doesn't take itself too seriously so I still enjoyed watching it.
A Working Man on the other hand is abysmally shit. I thought the writing couldn't get any worse than The Beekeeper but oh boy was I wrong. Not sure how you can fuck up a Jason Statham movie so bad that it becomes physically painful to watch it.
Off tangent but my mom enjoys those Hallmark movies or chick books with women solving mysteries even though they have non police jobs. But it occurred to me action movies have become that for men. Instead of a female baker solving mystery, dudes get a beekeeper killing cartel dudes.
If only The Beekeeper was about a beekeeper killing cartel dudes and not a completely fucking retarded plot about stereotypical startup tech bros doing the Indian callcenter scam in the middle of the US which finances some stupid ass CIA bullshit. I honestly couldn't finish the movie because it took itself way too serious for being unbelievably retarded. When that female beekeeper character turned up I gave up.
But yes, you are absolutely correct. Action movies like The Transporter, John Wick, Taken, The Equalizer etc. are that for men. And they're great. As long as they're not mind numbingly retarded like The Beekeeper or A Working Man. Even a guy like Jason Statham can't save those burning piles of shit.
I mean yeah but 1923 is filled with an old perverted guy sexually torturing women because they couldn't think of story to fill the gaps and 1883 has this stupid blonde girl in it. I meant to say no..I never made it to Yellowstone
They're pretty good but not flawless. The spin offs are worse than Yellowstone.
1923's second season was generally poorly planned and written. My biggest problem with it: A man died while being told that he killed the wife of another man (the murderer), both of whom he had never met, and that was just retarded.
Im gonna spoiler the end of Yellowstone: The Duttons give their ranch to an Indian tribe at the end in about the most cucked manner possible.
Lioness is OK, it can still go girl-bossy with the women in the show some times, and the plots are preposterous.
Landman is awesome, Billy BoB Thorton makes the series.
You're forgetting the part where it kills off the main male lead [Costner] offscreen and the one who "gives" the ranch "back" is one of the women who does so for like 3 dollars because that's what the land was bought for decades/centuries prior.
It's like 3 dollars an acre. And they sell it at that price because no one could afford the taxes at a higher price.
Aren't they still going to have to pay land tax or something after? 🤔 Or is that a problem for after the show where the message and reality are no longer important? 👀
I didn't watch it, just watched a recap. But it was a contract thing or some contrivance where they could only sell it at the same price they bought it for a century earlier
The entire plot of 1883 is stupid teenage girl making stupid decisions while her parents sit back and go “well that’s her decision!”. Her stupidity eventually kills her which sets up the basis of the main series. The rest of it is ok, but having the main plot being so mind numbingly moronic kills any positive aspects of the show.
Interestingly enough, that is the plot for modern America and the modern West.
Now, to be fair, her getting an arrow of shit to her gut wasn't really entirely her fault as she was reacting to bad luck that lead to the retaliatory attack. If I remembered correctly.
1923 however, 90 percent of poor Spencer Dutton's plight could've completely been avoided if the stupid bitch just book another boat without him and met him in New York.
The “bad luck” was literally a culmination of her stupidity, if she didn’t run off to do stupid shit she would have been alive. The entire story was about how “wild and free spirited” she was, when she would have been fine if her dad had the balls to say “no” to her at any given time.
I'm not going back and rewatch but wasn't her dad and mustache man who stumbled on a massacre scene and realized they need to flee to a fort before the indians track their hooves and think it's their train that did it? and she decided to ride off to give the rest of the ikea crew time to run away, gets arrowed and convinced the leader her daddy is off to find the actual killers?
You can say she shouldn't have gone and play hero but the chain of events started when they stumbled on the massacre. Had she stayed with the main caravan she'd end up getting attacked right?
But yeah to your point, when her dad let her wear pants and hook up with an indian it was just a matter of time.
That’s the point though, she died “girl bossing”. You could argue she still might have died under different circumstances, but she directly died because she repeatedly made dumb choices and did so often at the cost of others.
Sheridan has a great talent for taking a good premise (ranch life, oil men politics, etc) and dropping in as many grrlbosses or obnoxious women on soapboxes as he can get away with. The women in Landmen were exceptionally annoying and you could skip the wife/daughter side plots without missing anything. Nothing they do on their own ties into the main plot at all.
As for Yellowstone, I fell in love with the premise and the setting. Gorgeous backdrops of the ranch, Kevin Costner is a strong lead, interesting politics, etc. But then the women came on. One by one every one of them annoyed the shit out of me. Everyone gets a mandatory five minute soapbox lecture about whatever political gripe they have. I gave up when they let a woman into the cowboys group (who always wins poker or whatever they are doing on downtime). Sheridan wouldn't even let the guys have that little piece of the show to themselves
1923 is interesting, you can safely skip most of the indian scenes and not miss anything important, also there's a useless bdsm sub plot that get ridiculous, still not bearing on the episodes to safely skip through, most skippable scenes disappear perfectly with 30-90 second skip.
Yellowstone is a fun first season with just skipping the ridiculous plot armor of Beth scenes. It starts as a cowboy cult crime family and turns into 20 different misunderstood heroes, really really not worth finishing, I must have been stockholme syndromed into finishing it.
1883 is little whore on the prairie, but it's a fun comedic watch. after burying her first husband she knew for 5 minutes, she bones an indian and immediately goes white girl in the hood style, which to me is a perfect allegory for letting your daughter have too much freedom. Also the indians are accurately shown to be mostly irrational stone age people. Yes some of the bad guys are white, but this tracks for the period.
Tulsa King is just schlock, but mostly enjoyable. Just over the top crime dramady.
Mayor of Kingstown is a ridiculous premise, but I do enjoy seeing his SUPER leftist mother's takes just from a comedic point, and I'm a Renner fan. RIP his junk from his snow cat accident.
Land Man has been OK. The 30 year old girl playing his daughter is hot enough, but no way passes for a 16-18? year old. Ali Laughter is like a lifetime crush, and she portrays a vapid trophy wife perfectly, and provides ample T&A but many scenes get ridiculous and cringy. The bad guys are not all just incompetent white nitwits, mostly it's mexicans, and blacks are shown to be very tribal appropriately. It's a fun completely over the top portrayal of oil grab ridiculousness.
Every show will have a "conservative" style lead, who somehow adopts a ridiculously naive liberaly and schools her on some talking point of the day, but then after establishing himself as a "conservative man" will end up having some ridiculously cucked opinions eventually.
I know modern media takes some negotiation to get on the air, so I skip or ignore the stupidist parts and just enjoy watching Billy Bob, Stallone, Costner, etc. It's like a Tom Cruise movie. He's a raging loon, but can deliver a good time when needed.
If you need to watch a show, they're ok, nothing great so far. I hold out hope for Landman to be really awesome.
Yes these are all adult male soap operas.
Landman is fine if you liked Friday Night Lights and want to see an grown up version of that with needless grit and over the top drama. Great if you're having a few beers, playing a game and having it in the background or just turning your brain off.
Tyler Sheridan is a peddler of woke slop. Some of his movies and shows have interesting elements, in that they explore gritty social issues and realities, however the narratives are invariably hijacked and injected with current day woke garbage.
Wind River: about sexual assault on reservations, primarily depicting white aggressors, whereas it's much more likely that Native American men are to blame themselves.
Yellowstone: amongst many other woke-slop story elements, the previous mentioned theme is again explored here. This time it's once again white perpetrators, despite a 40% rate of domestic abuse in Native American reservations. Sure, the white devil did it all.
Sicario: about drug traffic and human smuggling across the Mexican-American border. Been some time since I saw it but the main character and POV protagonist is a stick-figure white woman working in an elite field unit. Sure.
All of his shows and movies are riddled with woke rot talking points and are meant to stealh-cultivate a guilty conscience amongst white men.
Typical that most of his works have men as their target audience. Can't have guy entertainment without a woke lecture.
Sicario? Legendary movie. But that was a collaboration with Denis Villeneuve, so Sheridan wasn't the only heavy hitter on deck.
Wind River was all Taylor. Good movie and great gunfights, but it does show. The possibilities for the "mystery" are literally A or B. Elizabeth Olsen also kind of reprises the same kind of ingenue role as Emily Blunt from Sicario, but not to the same extent. Can't complain about the choice of actresses.
Everything else is soap opera with enough watchability to keep the audience on the slop train. If you have any, and I mean ANY common sense, this will immediately be manifest. Also for some strange reason, as soon as Sheridan starts writing for TV he loves his girlbosses. But there's plenty shameless red meat for the conservative crowd, so they keep watching.
Example: in one of the early Yellowstone episodes a cowboy saves a couple of idiot Asian tourists from a grizzly bear, but then they fall off a cliff and die anyway (lol). Also the main characters KO, kill, or diddle anyone they feel like at any time.
Yeah, it's cool, but you don't play the same trick twice.
I adore Hell or High Water, what a no-holds-barred masculine film. You don't realise it until you watch some other current-day slop and then think back to just how grounded Hell or High Water was -- reminded me of the crime thrillers from the 1970s: all masculine and straight business.
The fat waitress comes close, but most of the female characters barely have that much screen time. It's great.
I find his shows are like his movies, hit or miss. I only watched 1 season of Yellowstone couldn't stand the Beth character so gave up on it. I like Mayor of Kingston and Tulsa King. Just finished Landman and really enjoyed it.
I haven't seen any of Lioness or the Yellowstone spin-offs.
I think Yellowstone is the more soap opera-ish of what I've seen.
They're all soap operas, but some of them have just enough guy stuff to keep me interested.
I liked Tulsa King but still need to watch season 2, any good or did they ruin it?
Haven't watched season 2 myself.
They wrote off the messy Lana Del Rey looking milf agent and that made me sad.
The writing is on the same level of dumb as the first season. So still enjoyable as long as you don't think too hard about it.
It's been awhile since we've had a good show where the protagonists just keep winning because shit just keeps going their way, its a bit refreshing after a decade of doomer slop.
Don't have an issue with that. It's just not a well written show. But fortunately it doesn't take itself too seriously so I still enjoyed watching it.
A Working Man on the other hand is abysmally shit. I thought the writing couldn't get any worse than The Beekeeper but oh boy was I wrong. Not sure how you can fuck up a Jason Statham movie so bad that it becomes physically painful to watch it.
Off tangent but my mom enjoys those Hallmark movies or chick books with women solving mysteries even though they have non police jobs. But it occurred to me action movies have become that for men. Instead of a female baker solving mystery, dudes get a beekeeper killing cartel dudes.
If only The Beekeeper was about a beekeeper killing cartel dudes and not a completely fucking retarded plot about stereotypical startup tech bros doing the Indian callcenter scam in the middle of the US which finances some stupid ass CIA bullshit. I honestly couldn't finish the movie because it took itself way too serious for being unbelievably retarded. When that female beekeeper character turned up I gave up.
But yes, you are absolutely correct. Action movies like The Transporter, John Wick, Taken, The Equalizer etc. are that for men. And they're great. As long as they're not mind numbingly retarded like The Beekeeper or A Working Man. Even a guy like Jason Statham can't save those burning piles of shit.
I can handle that lol
They're all soap operas with nineties action elements.
Landman is great and enjoyed Tulsa King.
Couldn’t get into Lioness and haven’t seen any of the “westerns”
I mean yeah but 1923 is filled with an old perverted guy sexually torturing women because they couldn't think of story to fill the gaps and 1883 has this stupid blonde girl in it. I meant to say no..I never made it to Yellowstone
They're pretty good but not flawless. The spin offs are worse than Yellowstone.
1923's second season was generally poorly planned and written. My biggest problem with it: A man died while being told that he killed the wife of another man (the murderer), both of whom he had never met, and that was just retarded.