Your games are printed paper and some die-cut cardboard. Maybe some little injection molded stands for the cardboard.
There is NO reason you can't produce those domestically. You're not the fucking semiconductor industry with hundreds of billions of production line investment. Make them in the US and your tariff is $0.
They will call slavery the worst thing to ever happen and condemn whites for it but then use ''who will pick the cotton'' talking points, it's so funny.
Cheap labor is part of it, but the sad reality is that supply chain is entrenched because China embraced manufacturing and US policy abandoned it. I suggested they print domestically. But what are the odds that the paper and inks suppliers would still be in China?
Unfucking this would take decades. IMHO, they should have focused tariffs on finished products and then slide the cutoff down over time. Once you get "assembly" back in the US it opens the doors for domestic companies to start supplying some of the inputs. Then someone can supply those suppliers, etc. The goal being you end up only importing materials that cannot be sourced locally like rare earths. You can't just say "shit costs more now" and expect a Shenzen equivalent to spawn itself in the US.
And that case is absolutely irrelevant for this situation, as a minor board game publishing company with 8 employees total has no shareholder value as it is not listed on any stock exchange.
The relevance is that the cultural values of America switched from Christian to "judeo-Christian"...
A business became not a way to support yourself and make a living but instead a legal homunculus that exists to exploit an overly complicated fiscal system.
You're right, but it's more basic than that. We switched from prioritizing people first, to prioritizing money and profit first. It's mammon worship, which the Bible explicitly warns against.
I can have an amount of sympathy for starting production on something and then the tariff hitting after that's already done. That's an unfortunate position to end up in.
But they make note that their entire company and all its employees are all US citizens in the US. That means that the only reason for their production to be in China is cheap labor outsourcing. A morally repugnant choice that would be evil if the Chinese were able to be considered human.
They were abusing a game exploit to get something at a fraction of the cost it should, and they can't be mad when the GMs finally wake up and fix it. A bug remaining unfixed for a long time doesn't mean it never will be, there is always that chance.
In addition to this, Trump spent literal years on the campaign trail promising tariffs and punishing China. Okay, maybe you didn't believe Trump would actually win, but on November 6th, 2024, you should have started brainstorming a back-up business plan.
It really would have been better to just tell the factories hold off on shipping or cancel the order. I've known factories that got told that. Ashley furniture supposedly cancelled several hundred containers already from one factory. It's like they thought Trump was bluffing or China would negotiate
Well reading the other images they are literally renting a warehouse in China to "wait it out" right now hoping for it to drop. Which is smart, because its likely to drop eventually to a less grandiose number.
But instead of pressuring China to stop playing hardball or lose their business going forward, they are whining that Trump is trying to prevent them from doing exactly what they are doing, and shipping American manufacturing to China to avoid paying real money for it.
That's the problem when you become an "international business." You increase the whims you might be living under government and politics wise. And they are caught in a literal (trade) war between two nations and whining they might have to pick a side.
MBA bros think offshoring to some Asian shithole is free money with zero downside. Ship production to China, make line go up, collect multimillion dollar bonus.
It's about time these overeducated fucks start proving their worth.
That's what he said, but that's not the same as a bill coming down and hitting the dock workers. Bureaucracies don't move on a moment's notice.
So, for example. Back in Trump's 1st term. He originally just asserted something about transgenderism being banned in the military. I can't remember the specifics because it was so long ago, but it was a giant media shit storm for a day or two. However, when the DOD was asked about it, their response was basically, "we don't take orders from Twitter. If POTUS has and order, there are chains of command and communication that are followed." Whatever it was, I think it took 3 weeks for Trump's order to actually be drafted up, planned, executed, and implemented.
So, I'm wondering if a similar thing is happening. What is actually happening at the docks and the points of entry. Have any tariffs actually been assessed?
Well, shit. This basically tells me my expectation is correct. Most of the tariffs haven't been applied to the stuff that's still on the way because it's still working it's way through the bureaucracy.
The fact that the interviewee pointed out that he's trying to move high-tech manufacturing back because the many of the raw materials are not being hit by tariffs.
It still looks to me like the attack on him from the right of "Trump backed down" hasn't materialized. It looks like the negotiations are still ongoing. Just today, Trump said China is negotiating, and China is responding by saying it isn't.
They did scythe, wingspan and viticulture which were fairly well received. I've played scythe, wingspan and between 2 castles for games of theirs. They're OK games but lacks something
So I looked up Scythe and Good Lord does that ever look tankie as fuck. Is it just overtly commie in the gameplay too? Because from reading about it, it is just looks like an infantile fetishization of the early USSR.
There is a company in my city that makes board games (I think they make Terraforming Mars, among others). It’s certainly feasible to do within the United States.
I own several stonemaiar games. But if they don’t want to move production to the USA then screw them. There’s plenty of table top games out there.
Your games are printed paper and some die-cut cardboard. Maybe some little injection molded stands for the cardboard.
There is NO reason you can't produce those domestically. You're not the fucking semiconductor industry with hundreds of billions of production line investment. Make them in the US and your tariff is $0.
They just want cheap slave labor. Bunch of morally corrupt monsters.
They will call slavery the worst thing to ever happen and condemn whites for it but then use ''who will pick the cotton'' talking points, it's so funny.
They should be doing lead (as in Pb) testing on the pieces they get from Chu-yi-na.
Cheap labor is part of it, but the sad reality is that supply chain is entrenched because China embraced manufacturing and US policy abandoned it. I suggested they print domestically. But what are the odds that the paper and inks suppliers would still be in China?
Unfucking this would take decades. IMHO, they should have focused tariffs on finished products and then slide the cutoff down over time. Once you get "assembly" back in the US it opens the doors for domestic companies to start supplying some of the inputs. Then someone can supply those suppliers, etc. The goal being you end up only importing materials that cannot be sourced locally like rare earths. You can't just say "shit costs more now" and expect a Shenzen equivalent to spawn itself in the US.
These faggots are suing Trump to continue to use slave labor.
“We can’t pay fair wages for work to actually make the product so we are suing Trump!”
Anything to increase shareholder value.
seems stocks is quite a terrible scourge on society.
And that case is absolutely irrelevant for this situation, as a minor board game publishing company with 8 employees total has no shareholder value as it is not listed on any stock exchange.
The relevance is that the cultural values of America switched from Christian to "judeo-Christian"...
A business became not a way to support yourself and make a living but instead a legal homunculus that exists to exploit an overly complicated fiscal system.
You're right, but it's more basic than that. We switched from prioritizing people first, to prioritizing money and profit first. It's mammon worship, which the Bible explicitly warns against.
I can have an amount of sympathy for starting production on something and then the tariff hitting after that's already done. That's an unfortunate position to end up in.
But they make note that their entire company and all its employees are all US citizens in the US. That means that the only reason for their production to be in China is cheap labor outsourcing. A morally repugnant choice that would be evil if the Chinese were able to be considered human.
They were abusing a game exploit to get something at a fraction of the cost it should, and they can't be mad when the GMs finally wake up and fix it. A bug remaining unfixed for a long time doesn't mean it never will be, there is always that chance.
In addition to this, Trump spent literal years on the campaign trail promising tariffs and punishing China. Okay, maybe you didn't believe Trump would actually win, but on November 6th, 2024, you should have started brainstorming a back-up business plan.
It really would have been better to just tell the factories hold off on shipping or cancel the order. I've known factories that got told that. Ashley furniture supposedly cancelled several hundred containers already from one factory. It's like they thought Trump was bluffing or China would negotiate
Well reading the other images they are literally renting a warehouse in China to "wait it out" right now hoping for it to drop. Which is smart, because its likely to drop eventually to a less grandiose number.
But instead of pressuring China to stop playing hardball or lose their business going forward, they are whining that Trump is trying to prevent them from doing exactly what they are doing, and shipping American manufacturing to China to avoid paying real money for it.
That's the problem when you become an "international business." You increase the whims you might be living under government and politics wise. And they are caught in a literal (trade) war between two nations and whining they might have to pick a side.
MBA bros think offshoring to some Asian shithole is free money with zero downside. Ship production to China, make line go up, collect multimillion dollar bonus.
It's about time these overeducated fucks start proving their worth.
People who complaint to ccp get disappeared
Sounds like their fucking problem for playing ball with such a dangerous country then.
The basic rules don't stop existing because you hooked up with someone who is psychotic.
They picked wrongly
I'm starting to think every part of this is a psy-op.
Is there any tariff that is currently in place and being paid by someone?
It seems like everyone, from every angle, is still hashing out with the ambassadors what the actual trading relationships should be.
China. Also 10% reciprocal tariffs still in place for 90 days for everyone else iirc
That's what he said, but that's not the same as a bill coming down and hitting the dock workers. Bureaucracies don't move on a moment's notice.
So, for example. Back in Trump's 1st term. He originally just asserted something about transgenderism being banned in the military. I can't remember the specifics because it was so long ago, but it was a giant media shit storm for a day or two. However, when the DOD was asked about it, their response was basically, "we don't take orders from Twitter. If POTUS has and order, there are chains of command and communication that are followed." Whatever it was, I think it took 3 weeks for Trump's order to actually be drafted up, planned, executed, and implemented.
So, I'm wondering if a similar thing is happening. What is actually happening at the docks and the points of entry. Have any tariffs actually been assessed?
I've known people who claim they got hit by tariffs already so probably yes
Well, shit. This basically tells me my expectation is correct. Most of the tariffs haven't been applied to the stuff that's still on the way because it's still working it's way through the bureaucracy.
The fact that the interviewee pointed out that he's trying to move high-tech manufacturing back because the many of the raw materials are not being hit by tariffs.
It still looks to me like the attack on him from the right of "Trump backed down" hasn't materialized. It looks like the negotiations are still ongoing. Just today, Trump said China is negotiating, and China is responding by saying it isn't.
I am a bigger tabletop nerd than most people here. Never heard of this company.
They did scythe, wingspan and viticulture which were fairly well received. I've played scythe, wingspan and between 2 castles for games of theirs. They're OK games but lacks something
So I looked up Scythe and Good Lord does that ever look tankie as fuck. Is it just overtly commie in the gameplay too? Because from reading about it, it is just looks like an infantile fetishization of the early USSR.
That makes it even funnier that these faggots are crying.
A good communist would do work locally so that their comrades can be paid their equal share.
Outsourcing for slave labor is capitalist pig ideology.
They were lacking tariffs. :)
I had over 300 board games before the lock downs. (in the process of selling it off)
I never owned any games from this company.
Wild idea... Create local, buy local, sell local.
Lowers greenhouse emissions, improves the community, and helps human rights around the world.
There is a company in my city that makes board games (I think they make Terraforming Mars, among others). It’s certainly feasible to do within the United States.
I own several stonemaiar games. But if they don’t want to move production to the USA then screw them. There’s plenty of table top games out there.
Didn't you hear, the Fryxelius brothers are transphobic?
In case you needed a reason to pick up a second copy...
Terraforming mars was a huge hit a few years back. I'm suprised it's made in usa
It’s a Swedish designed game. I think Ludo Fact is the manufacturer. It’s a German firm but they have an American branch.
Go to hell stonemaier and go bankrupt while you're at it. You should have just gone domestic instead of being a globalist faggot.
I'm sure some American (or European) factories can produce another 10 low-effort installments of Wingspan for a reasonable price