I'm struggling to understand why are you bringing this up? I think most people acknowledge that the number of pro-war folks were in the minority but some had powerful positions. Movies were being made and cartoons drawn. I don't think most here are unaware the US made propaganda
I suspect that was only the short term purpose and the main reason for capeshit was to replace racial and national heroes like King Arthur and Jim Bowie.
I wasn't asking about the what, I was asking about the why. If you brought it up on the weekend the new Cap movie opened, it would make sense. And like I said I think most would agree a lot of jewish folks who held influence were more pro-war than the average American. This isn't unknown.
It is relevant actually. The relevance is Jews tried to get Americans to fight and die for their wars 90 years ago, just like they are doing now when they get Americans involved in the middle East
Yes and multiple villains including cobalt man were created by a white Christian southerner to demonize nuclear power/ radiation in the 70s. Also the sentiment of America going to help in WW2 was already being pushed as majority in support by Gallup polls back in September of 1940, before captain America was even published
.jpg posters are fine for memes and laughs, but these aren't meant to be that. Its meant to be a genuine lecture from him where you nod and agree "Yes Jew Bad!"
Possibly, but I'd rather we have the possibility of a good joke or interesting prompt brought on by a simple .jpg than the consequences of dealing with it.
The problem isn't limited to the format, its just guys treating this place as super serious and spamming to push their narratives. Imp did literally the same with articles and links for his own, and Lethn with his own ego blogs.
A few weeks ago I was being downvoted to oblivion and attacked by everyone for daring to question his "based" motives. I had to be a secret Jew in league with Antonio and Dom.
Now plenty of people are pointing out how questionable he is and laughing at how blatant his agenda pushing is. Which is how free speech should be used as both a right and a weapon.
I got my image from researching the history of capeshit because capeshit always rubbed me the wrong way and now I understand why. Believe it or not I don't need to get things from another place I can just find things on my own when I research about something I find suspicious. It's not my fault I keep finding Jewish involvement in things I find suspicious
It's the people who think that the guy who offed himself after destroying his own country and killing tens of millions of people who are brainwashed. In reality, he's a hero because the mainstream calls him a bad guy, and they lie about everyone, including Hitler, Genghis Khan and Pol Pot.
I assume you love him because he provides some representation for you one-balled people.
Its [sic] noteworthy that you can't even explain what your "nuance" was. Hint: because there wasn't any, and you're just a retard and a Pol Pot admirer.
You're sperging again. It's a lot simpler, OP is an outsider pushing an agenda via low effort .jpg spamming. The liberal state and the fictional mass murder you jerk off to don't enter into it. Dude just wants to spam anti-jew .jpgs like a mindless animal. I would not be surprised if he were getting put up to it as some sort of agent provocateur. He certainly isn't organic or native to this place.
While It's true that the Germans didn't start transporting Jews to killing stations a whole 7 months after December 7th, 1941. The writing on the wall was there and comic books clearly were a conduit to educating people about what was happening.
The potential to influence so many young men to give their lives in the name of freedom has clearly been identified and exploited in the present day by those who would have most people walk around with a yellow armband saying "Cis" on it.
I guess comics are like a barometer of social change. Reading them requires a bit more knowledge than veneer glancing.
that is if you believe the holohoax happened in the first place. And besides it wasn't any of America's business, AND what writing was on the wall? That's like some retard writing comics some character representing America punching Putin today because he thinks if he doesn't Putin will conquer all of Europe for Russia in the future.
Should America also war monger against israel for genociding the Palestinians?
thats.... literally what i said. I said i didn't say what he thinks i believe so maybe he shouldnt put words in my mouth . But i know you JIDF have a habit of putting words in people's mouths to avoid confronting the original topic
No, you strawmanned by claiming that he was making claims about what you said, rather than about what you believe - namely that you want to kill the Jews.
Telia's redardation has hit peak conpro levels. He spams kia2 too much as well, I'm just going to block at this point as it's almost all worthless posts anyway. I dont give a shit about ze jewz, but i cant stand conpros constant bitching.
Business is global, you'll notice this when Coca Cola shifted its product due to import restrictions in Germany and creating Fanta as an alternative.
The writing on the wall was a way back in 1933 when there was a national boycott of Jewish businesses and laws were brought in which barred Jews from holding jobs in the civil service and state positions. They also couldn't work at universities and East European Jewish immigrants were stripped of of their German citizenship. All while books were being burned publicly with any ideas other than the ones in power.
There are plenty of retards writing comics these days but the idea of a new character is beyond them and Putin isn't as easy to parody with the more replete information we have from various sources. For every retarded comic book writer duping young minds with propaganda there are plenty of people who will supply evidence which is contrary to that.
Yes, Israel should be punished for their crimes against Palestine and their own people. The US should have a hand in that but not be the only arbitrator in such actions.
He's proceeded to reply to a bunch of other comments, but gave you a nothing burger, very interesting and curious why he would do that? Those poor victims, isn't it crazy how that evil moustache guy managed to convince millions of his country men to one day for absolutely no reason whatsoever get up and go burn... books.
See? Even replies to mine even though I have not replied to his, apparently the evil nazis were burning comic books, it all makes sense now.
I answered his question. I'm not sure Albert Einstein was such a villain that his books 'needed' to be burned, but as an Eskimo playacting as a member of ze Germanic master race, you might disagree.
I'm not sure why Helen Keller is a daily topic of conversation in America. All I know is that she was deaf and blind, because everyone keeps bringing it up.
She was a puppet used by Anne Sullivan (a rabid Marxist/ intersectional feminist) to con a bunch of people into supporting women’s rights and socialism. She was also a “founding member” of the ACLU.
Well Superman is an alien from another planet but he bears a striking resemblance to humans outwardly. Part of the skills he has as an alien are that he can fly (Really fast too!), is incredibly strong, has impenetrable skin and can shoot lasers from his eyes as well as see through objects. His line if books is Detective Comics.
The Incredible Hulk is a human who was blasted with some sort of gamma radiations which lets him break into his inner primal self, bereft of sophisticated cognitive reasoning, and possessing colossal strength and impenetrable skin when he gets angry. He is giant and green when he is angry and so has trouble blending in with everyday humans during that phase. His line of books is Marvel Comics.
Belonging to two different intellectual property owners means their running into each other is rare, often considered not canonical. This is why the subject of them sharing the same universe during a battle makes for interesting debate.
He was referring to the books "being burned publicly with any ideas other than the ones in power". I would like to hear specifics about these ideas as well. You are being suspiciously vague about their content for some reason. It's almost like you don't want anyone to know what was in them.
Now if you want to let out your inner sexual exploration fiend to explore the areas of existence on the fronts of gender and sexual preference, I'd suggest going back to what "any ideas other than the ones in power" were and asking on forums more akin to those who would know about Ilse Koch and the She-Wolf of of Buchenwald.
While I know Wonder Woman had its origins in bondage and sexual freedoms I'm not sure that Captain America did.
there was a national boycott of jewish businesses because jews started boycotting German goods first in the first place. You really don't know anything do you? And Germany belongs to the Germans they have full rights to push foreigners out of their society.
are you expecting me to feel sorry for jews? Also im pretty sure i said it wouldn't have been any of America's business in the first place. My topic of discussion is why were jews in America trying to get America involved in a war that had nothing to do with America?
That would be completely incorrect, the fact of the matter is that Lend-Lease guaranteed that America would have to back Britain under any circumstances because it tied our entire economic recovery and growth to the allies winning. There’s also the fact that Germany and Japan had no intention of leaving America alone if they won on their fronts, Germany was already pushing influence on South America to create a base for the western hemisphere expansion especially chile and Argentina. So why are you pretending WW2 is like Russia and Ukraine?
Japan might have, at least in the short term. The reason for the attack on Pearl Harbor was the fact that the US imposed sanctions on Japan because of its depredations in China.
But of course, the point of attacking Japan (and Germany) was to prevent them from becoming regional hegemons which at some point may cause trouble for the US, or weaken its hand.
Weren't you bragging a while back that whites, unlike everyone else, "have empathy"?
So let's be real. The only reason you deny the 'holohoax' is not because you aren't happy that it happened, it's because you don't want to have to defend killing a few million people. If you said: yeah, they killed a few million Jews, and that's GOOD... it would make you look like quite a jerk.
why were jews in America trying to get America involved in a war that had nothing to do with America?
I didn't ask these two. I assume they weren't too happy with their fellow jews being killed and brutalized. Too bad they don't have all the empathy you do.
Let me get this right. A people who don't work on Saturdays, are well known for their love of unleavened bread and wine and generally are not seen as skilled labourers - also a minority within that particular population - boycotted trade with the world directly around them?
This world around them which was known for fastidious note-taking, record keeping and documenting observations in nature?
You'll be able to cite some sources in that case Telia. I'd love to know the motivations behind stopping flour production and somehow bypassing border control for food and wine made elsewhere. There could be a book or two in that!
Superman type characters beat everyone other character when the fighting isn't done for show, with a few rare exceptions that boil down to "Superman but stronger" or "Superman with training". The Injustice comics go over this at length when Superman gets his ass handed to him hard by characters like Darkseid or Wonder Woman. The only reason Superman doesn't die is because of plot reasons which is also why Superman "loses" under meme pairings.
Superman vs Batman only works is because Superman doesn't simply heat vision the entire area from afar/space, plus plot armour given to Batman and others where "they planned ahead". Superman can survive in space, he could literally destroy the planet to beat someone and not suffer any consequences from it.
So Hulk would be shit out of luck for multiple reasons.
Fighting someone that can move almost as fast as The Flash and as a result faster than is perceptible and cause localised nuclear explosions simply by punching hard enough due to the accelerations involved.
Fighting someone who can survive in space and attack from range so far out of reach he isn't even visible.
Fighting someone who can destroy the entire planet and survive then just let physics take over.
But comics aren't written for those reasons, they're rarely written so that the good guys fight the bad guys at times because as the Avengers showcases hero teamups almost inevitably turn into fights between the good guys. You only see fights done practically in Elseworld type situations like Injustice or Superior where a Superman type character can cut loose with zero consequences who dies in the process.
In Injustice this happens several times when a few of Superman's frequent rogues literally get thrown into the sun to finally and actually get rid of them.
But Superman doesn't fight like that which in its own way is why characters like Injustice Superman, Hyperion, Superior, Homelander, and others are appealing because they fight very far outside of the box.
This has been done in universe many times with characters like Solomon Grundy and more. None of them can fly so all Superman needs do is take advantage of that and then throw them into space/the sun.
Hulk can survive in space, he has before. Hulk is pretty much eternal. And you can't kill Bruce because Hulk protects him. Hulk and Superman both have stories were they are the last beings in their universes. And unless I'm wrong about this, Hulk isn't affected by different suns, like Supes is.
Hulk has changed a lot in the last 5 years, some good, some downright retarded like Spaceship Hulk, and his durability isn't what it used to be. He can be killed, and most likely permanently this time as the Green Doors in Immortal Hulk don't work anymore.
Until someone else decides to change the rules in a new run which is the MO with most writers to ignore what came before or just make shit up for their own pet projects that can be retconned away further down the line if it ends up being too retarded or if the new writer just doesn't give a shit about continuity.
Edit: Also this,
Hulk can survive in space
Doesn't help much because he's then just floating aimlessly through space. Superman and similar characters can still fly in space. Hulk can't thunderclap his way through the empty void of space precisely because it's an empty void.
If we take Immortal Hulk as canon, then Hulk is literally unkillable in a way that only the gamma powered characters can utilize. To a point where he can survive the death of the universe (or become it).
Hulk lore is so impossible to follow it makes things like the Flash seem easy.
At this point they just as soon say "he has infinite possible personalities/Hulk forms and all powers as per needed" because that's the way it always goes.
That only works if it takes place in a DC universe.
The gamma radiation that the Hulk was subjected to might have kryptonite like powers in the DC universe which would weaken Kal-El or Superman might not be quite as capable in the Marvel universe and the Hulk would have the advantage.
It's these little things which can make all the difference in situations like why Captain America wasn't made in Russia or if Red Skull was actually right and wanted to protect Earth from Thanos all that time ago.
Just because it's green doesn't mean it's kryptonite, or jade, or any other number of glowing green objects that turn out to be the only thing that can hurt someone.
Most people in America were aware a war with Germany and Japan were coming because both were wildly aggressive, murderous, and made clear their intention to destroy anyone that wouldn't go along with them. "A whole year before America had officially joined ww2" is 3 years after WW2 had already started. Even if someone only had knowledge of WW2 from HOI4, they would know that tensions for war had already been spiking since the early 30's. Most of that was Hitler's fault because he wanted, even needed, a fucking war.
But you're right. We should take a lesson from Captain America, restart the House Un-American Activities Committee and boot out Nazi fifth columnists like you.
I'm struggling to understand why are you bringing this up? I think most people acknowledge that the number of pro-war folks were in the minority but some had powerful positions. Movies were being made and cartoons drawn. I don't think most here are unaware the US made propaganda
Capeshit started as propaganda made by jews to promote getting America in to ww2. That's what im bringing up
I suspect that was only the short term purpose and the main reason for capeshit was to replace racial and national heroes like King Arthur and Jim Bowie.
I wasn't asking about the what, I was asking about the why. If you brought it up on the weekend the new Cap movie opened, it would make sense. And like I said I think most would agree a lot of jewish folks who held influence were more pro-war than the average American. This isn't unknown.
Its a forum about gaming and pop culture.
Yeah, but this isn't relevant to anything and is naked agenda pushing, just like everything else he posts.
It is relevant actually. The relevance is Jews tried to get Americans to fight and die for their wars 90 years ago, just like they are doing now when they get Americans involved in the middle East
No, you are an interloper who doesn't belong here.
People post garbage about v tuber drama, anti feminism stuff, and other useless shit but you're gonna be grumpy about some wehraboo posting?
The irony here is that I'm largely sympathetic to the message, I just want the messenger shot because I think he's a bad actor.
It's not Stormfront. You may not like that.
Yes and multiple villains including cobalt man were created by a white Christian southerner to demonize nuclear power/ radiation in the 70s. Also the sentiment of America going to help in WW2 was already being pushed as majority in support by Gallup polls back in September of 1940, before captain America was even published
https://exhibitions.ushmm.org/americans-and-the-holocaust/us-public-opinion-world-war-II-1939-1941
Because the place he gets all his images from brought it up, obvs, and he just reposts that mindlessly.
More reason to bully .jpg posters.
.jpg posters are fine for memes and laughs, but these aren't meant to be that. Its meant to be a genuine lecture from him where you nod and agree "Yes Jew Bad!"
I'd argue that's the thin end of the wedge that ends with us suffering this garbage.
Possibly, but I'd rather we have the possibility of a good joke or interesting prompt brought on by a simple .jpg than the consequences of dealing with it.
The problem isn't limited to the format, its just guys treating this place as super serious and spamming to push their narratives. Imp did literally the same with articles and links for his own, and Lethn with his own ego blogs.
Fair counter point. I'm just tired of having to put up with all the garbage and want a solution.
The solution is already starting.
A few weeks ago I was being downvoted to oblivion and attacked by everyone for daring to question his "based" motives. I had to be a secret Jew in league with Antonio and Dom.
Now plenty of people are pointing out how questionable he is and laughing at how blatant his agenda pushing is. Which is how free speech should be used as both a right and a weapon.
I got my image from researching the history of capeshit because capeshit always rubbed me the wrong way and now I understand why. Believe it or not I don't need to get things from another place I can just find things on my own when I research about something I find suspicious. It's not my fault I keep finding Jewish involvement in things I find suspicious
Lol, ok man. You are a pure free thinker who does his own original research every time. Totes.
The Fuentes retards absolutely cannot stop thinking about Jews 24 hours a day.
When your culture is dominated by Jews why AREN'T you thinking about them more? And I don't watch Fuentes
Shut the fuck up retard.
Excuse me, it's not 24 hours - at least half of that is spent thinking about pretty boys.
Because he's a Nazi and hates the idea of a Liberal state defending people from his aggression and mass murder.
Muh they lie about everything except from 1933-1945 which is 100% truthful and the good goys won.
"They lie about everything, so Genghis Khan and Pol Pot were good guys." - Nazi
The nuance is of course lost on someone fully brainwashed to accept the muh "Hitler is actually satan narrative."
It's the people who think that the guy who offed himself after destroying his own country and killing tens of millions of people who are brainwashed. In reality, he's a hero because the mainstream calls him a bad guy, and they lie about everyone, including Hitler, Genghis Khan and Pol Pot.
I assume you love him because he provides some representation for you one-balled people.
Its always about genitals to you weirdos lol.
Its [sic] noteworthy that you can't even explain what your "nuance" was. Hint: because there wasn't any, and you're just a retard and a Pol Pot admirer.
Yes the Nazis do lie about everything, but that includes everything between 1933 and 1945 too.
You're sperging again. It's a lot simpler, OP is an outsider pushing an agenda via low effort .jpg spamming. The liberal state and the fictional mass murder you jerk off to don't enter into it. Dude just wants to spam anti-jew .jpgs like a mindless animal. I would not be surprised if he were getting put up to it as some sort of agent provocateur. He certainly isn't organic or native to this place.
I don't see where we disagree besides your second sentence.
While It's true that the Germans didn't start transporting Jews to killing stations a whole 7 months after December 7th, 1941. The writing on the wall was there and comic books clearly were a conduit to educating people about what was happening.
The potential to influence so many young men to give their lives in the name of freedom has clearly been identified and exploited in the present day by those who would have most people walk around with a yellow armband saying "Cis" on it.
I guess comics are like a barometer of social change. Reading them requires a bit more knowledge than veneer glancing.
that is if you believe the holohoax happened in the first place. And besides it wasn't any of America's business, AND what writing was on the wall? That's like some retard writing comics some character representing America punching Putin today because he thinks if he doesn't Putin will conquer all of Europe for Russia in the future.
Should America also war monger against israel for genociding the Palestinians?
Shouldn't you be living in ConPro? Why are you here?
Because his other account was banned here.
He has a very recognizable style. He dropped his most recognizable tic when he moved to this account, though that did not help.
Why not post about comics on this pop culture forum?
To shit up the board with naked agenda pushing.
Ah yes, the typical "the holocaust didn't happen but if it did it was based".
Typical low iq take from the usual suspect.
i didn't say "it was based" i said it wouldn't have been any of America's business. Is it America's job to protect jews all over the world.?
He did not allege that you said those exact words. He alleged that you believe them. Which you do, of course.
thats.... literally what i said. I said i didn't say what he thinks i believe so maybe he shouldnt put words in my mouth . But i know you JIDF have a habit of putting words in people's mouths to avoid confronting the original topic
No, you strawmanned by claiming that he was making claims about what you said, rather than about what you believe - namely that you want to kill the Jews.
Telia's redardation has hit peak conpro levels. He spams kia2 too much as well, I'm just going to block at this point as it's almost all worthless posts anyway. I dont give a shit about ze jewz, but i cant stand conpros constant bitching.
Nice spread!
Business is global, you'll notice this when Coca Cola shifted its product due to import restrictions in Germany and creating Fanta as an alternative.
The writing on the wall was a way back in 1933 when there was a national boycott of Jewish businesses and laws were brought in which barred Jews from holding jobs in the civil service and state positions. They also couldn't work at universities and East European Jewish immigrants were stripped of of their German citizenship. All while books were being burned publicly with any ideas other than the ones in power.
There are plenty of retards writing comics these days but the idea of a new character is beyond them and Putin isn't as easy to parody with the more replete information we have from various sources. For every retarded comic book writer duping young minds with propaganda there are plenty of people who will supply evidence which is contrary to that.
Yes, Israel should be punished for their crimes against Palestine and their own people. The US should have a hand in that but not be the only arbitrator in such actions.
So, Superman or Incredible Hulk - who would win?
He's proceeded to reply to a bunch of other comments, but gave you a nothing burger, very interesting and curious why he would do that? Those poor victims, isn't it crazy how that evil moustache guy managed to convince millions of his country men to one day for absolutely no reason whatsoever get up and go burn... books.
See? Even replies to mine even though I have not replied to his, apparently the evil nazis were burning comic books, it all makes sense now.
I've written, at length, about Superman and The Incredible Hulk.
If you want to go into why Thaddeus Ross shaved off his moustache in Brave New World that's a whole different thread fren.
Well that's simple, modern hollywood hates masculinity and mustaches are super masculine. But those aren't the books he was talking about. Ever heard of a guy named Magnus Hirschfeld? The modern left reveres the perv and mourns the fact that burning his library set the LGBTWTFBBQ agenda back by half a century.
I know of the kinky books they burned.
Beyond Wonder Woman starting out as a bondage game I don't see how it's relevant to comics and I'm really pushed to see how it's relevant to here.
I answered his question. I'm not sure Albert Einstein was such a villain that his books 'needed' to be burned, but as an Eskimo playacting as a member of ze Germanic master race, you might disagree.
Of course a slav jew is going to play victim and obfuscate the truth. My ancestors killed many of yours, unfortunately not enough, keep coping.
You still haven't figured out that this is contradictory?
I guess you can't answer why Albert Einstein's works "needed" to be burned.
Eskimos did all that? Show me Finland on a map in 1900. Doesn't exist. Still doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
Albert Einstein, among others, because 'Jewish science' and such as.
'German science' was vastly superior.
Here you left out Hellen Keller
I'm not sure why Helen Keller is a daily topic of conversation in America. All I know is that she was deaf and blind, because everyone keeps bringing it up.
She was a puppet used by Anne Sullivan (a rabid Marxist/ intersectional feminist) to con a bunch of people into supporting women’s rights and socialism. She was also a “founding member” of the ACLU.
The modern meme is that they were Markus Hirschfield's pervert tranny books.
Well Superman is an alien from another planet but he bears a striking resemblance to humans outwardly. Part of the skills he has as an alien are that he can fly (Really fast too!), is incredibly strong, has impenetrable skin and can shoot lasers from his eyes as well as see through objects. His line if books is Detective Comics.
The Incredible Hulk is a human who was blasted with some sort of gamma radiations which lets him break into his inner primal self, bereft of sophisticated cognitive reasoning, and possessing colossal strength and impenetrable skin when he gets angry. He is giant and green when he is angry and so has trouble blending in with everyday humans during that phase. His line of books is Marvel Comics.
Belonging to two different intellectual property owners means their running into each other is rare, often considered not canonical. This is why the subject of them sharing the same universe during a battle makes for interesting debate.
I hope that helps!
He was referring to the books "being burned publicly with any ideas other than the ones in power". I would like to hear specifics about these ideas as well. You are being suspiciously vague about their content for some reason. It's almost like you don't want anyone to know what was in them.
I think I expressed them succinctly.
Now if you want to let out your inner sexual exploration fiend to explore the areas of existence on the fronts of gender and sexual preference, I'd suggest going back to what "any ideas other than the ones in power" were and asking on forums more akin to those who would know about Ilse Koch and the She-Wolf of of Buchenwald.
While I know Wonder Woman had its origins in bondage and sexual freedoms I'm not sure that Captain America did.
Anyways, Hulk or Supes?
there was a national boycott of jewish businesses because jews started boycotting German goods first in the first place. You really don't know anything do you? And Germany belongs to the Germans they have full rights to push foreigners out of their society.
Also are you against BDS?
Great, now how do you justify the Reichskristallnacht?
are you expecting me to feel sorry for jews? Also im pretty sure i said it wouldn't have been any of America's business in the first place. My topic of discussion is why were jews in America trying to get America involved in a war that had nothing to do with America?
“Had nothing to do with America”
That would be completely incorrect, the fact of the matter is that Lend-Lease guaranteed that America would have to back Britain under any circumstances because it tied our entire economic recovery and growth to the allies winning. There’s also the fact that Germany and Japan had no intention of leaving America alone if they won on their fronts, Germany was already pushing influence on South America to create a base for the western hemisphere expansion especially chile and Argentina. So why are you pretending WW2 is like Russia and Ukraine?
Japan might have, at least in the short term. The reason for the attack on Pearl Harbor was the fact that the US imposed sanctions on Japan because of its depredations in China.
But of course, the point of attacking Japan (and Germany) was to prevent them from becoming regional hegemons which at some point may cause trouble for the US, or weaken its hand.
Weren't you bragging a while back that whites, unlike everyone else, "have empathy"?
So let's be real. The only reason you deny the 'holohoax' is not because you aren't happy that it happened, it's because you don't want to have to defend killing a few million people. If you said: yeah, they killed a few million Jews, and that's GOOD... it would make you look like quite a jerk.
I didn't ask these two. I assume they weren't too happy with their fellow jews being killed and brutalized. Too bad they don't have all the empathy you do.
To be empathetic towards something, it has to be human or the very least an animal.
Do I have to justify the fever my body develops when fighting off the flu?
I like this analogy.
You should read this book: https://archive.org/details/the-bizarre-story-of-kristallnacht
Let me get this right. A people who don't work on Saturdays, are well known for their love of unleavened bread and wine and generally are not seen as skilled labourers - also a minority within that particular population - boycotted trade with the world directly around them?
This world around them which was known for fastidious note-taking, record keeping and documenting observations in nature?
You'll be able to cite some sources in that case Telia. I'd love to know the motivations behind stopping flour production and somehow bypassing border control for food and wine made elsewhere. There could be a book or two in that!
Superman type characters beat everyone other character when the fighting isn't done for show, with a few rare exceptions that boil down to "Superman but stronger" or "Superman with training". The Injustice comics go over this at length when Superman gets his ass handed to him hard by characters like Darkseid or Wonder Woman. The only reason Superman doesn't die is because of plot reasons which is also why Superman "loses" under meme pairings.
Superman vs Batman only works is because Superman doesn't simply heat vision the entire area from afar/space, plus plot armour given to Batman and others where "they planned ahead". Superman can survive in space, he could literally destroy the planet to beat someone and not suffer any consequences from it.
So Hulk would be shit out of luck for multiple reasons.
Fighting someone that can move almost as fast as The Flash and as a result faster than is perceptible and cause localised nuclear explosions simply by punching hard enough due to the accelerations involved.
Fighting someone who can survive in space and attack from range so far out of reach he isn't even visible.
Fighting someone who can destroy the entire planet and survive then just let physics take over.
But comics aren't written for those reasons, they're rarely written so that the good guys fight the bad guys at times because as the Avengers showcases hero teamups almost inevitably turn into fights between the good guys. You only see fights done practically in Elseworld type situations like Injustice or Superior where a Superman type character can cut loose with zero consequences who dies in the process.
In Injustice this happens several times when a few of Superman's frequent rogues literally get thrown into the sun to finally and actually get rid of them.
In Superior you have the Superman stand in take the villain up into space so he can punch him as hard as possible without causing damage to the surrounding area and people see it from the surface
But Superman doesn't fight like that which in its own way is why characters like Injustice Superman, Hyperion, Superior, Homelander, and others are appealing because they fight very far outside of the box.
So Superman's sophisticated cognitive reasoning could still be his downfall in a battle against the Hulk then?
Superman's moral restraints and plot holes
I'm not saying the Hulk would win, just that there's room to consider it.
Superman, no contest.
This has been done in universe many times with characters like Solomon Grundy and more. None of them can fly so all Superman needs do is take advantage of that and then throw them into space/the sun.
Hulk can survive in space, he has before. Hulk is pretty much eternal. And you can't kill Bruce because Hulk protects him. Hulk and Superman both have stories were they are the last beings in their universes. And unless I'm wrong about this, Hulk isn't affected by different suns, like Supes is.
Hulk has changed a lot in the last 5 years, some good, some downright retarded like Spaceship Hulk, and his durability isn't what it used to be. He can be killed, and most likely permanently this time as the Green Doors in Immortal Hulk don't work anymore.
Until someone else decides to change the rules in a new run which is the MO with most writers to ignore what came before or just make shit up for their own pet projects that can be retconned away further down the line if it ends up being too retarded or if the new writer just doesn't give a shit about continuity.
Edit: Also this,
Doesn't help much because he's then just floating aimlessly through space. Superman and similar characters can still fly in space. Hulk can't thunderclap his way through the empty void of space precisely because it's an empty void.
I don't have an answer for how'd he move in space. I guess Superman could just toss him off world and win, and I should've shut the fuck up
If we take Immortal Hulk as canon, then Hulk is literally unkillable in a way that only the gamma powered characters can utilize. To a point where he can survive the death of the universe (or become it).
Immortal Hulk no longer functions, the 50 issue run closed all the Green Doors at the end.
Until someone else opens them again, ofc 🙄
Edit: Also this,
Only works because TOBA is possessing him. Regular Banner/Hulk can't do that.
Hulk lore is so impossible to follow it makes things like the Flash seem easy.
At this point they just as soon say "he has infinite possible personalities/Hulk forms and all powers as per needed" because that's the way it always goes.
That only works if it takes place in a DC universe.
The gamma radiation that the Hulk was subjected to might have kryptonite like powers in the DC universe which would weaken Kal-El or Superman might not be quite as capable in the Marvel universe and the Hulk would have the advantage.
It's these little things which can make all the difference in situations like why Captain America wasn't made in Russia or if Red Skull was actually right and wanted to protect Earth from Thanos all that time ago.
Immediate conjecture, immediate dismissal.
The only thing it does is make Hulk strong enough to punch and possible hurt Superman, if he even gets the chance.
Well it's all conjecture until I see it with my own eyes Vivs3rdSock.
You can tell me that this is how it would go down but until I see it it's only a story you are spinning.
Your question was:
Not:
Just because it's green doesn't mean it's kryptonite, or jade, or any other number of glowing green objects that turn out to be the only thing that can hurt someone.
Very true.
But it doesn't mean it's not!
In December 1940, Hitler had already conquered Czechoslovakia, Poland, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, and northern France.
I'm sure you believe all this was 100% justified, but it's not comparable to Putin taking back what is rightfully his.
TIL he had a sidekick
Most people in America were aware a war with Germany and Japan were coming because both were wildly aggressive, murderous, and made clear their intention to destroy anyone that wouldn't go along with them. "A whole year before America had officially joined ww2" is 3 years after WW2 had already started. Even if someone only had knowledge of WW2 from HOI4, they would know that tensions for war had already been spiking since the early 30's. Most of that was Hitler's fault because he wanted, even needed, a fucking war.
But you're right. We should take a lesson from Captain America, restart the House Un-American Activities Committee and boot out Nazi fifth columnists like you.