“Free speech caused the Holocaust”
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Assuming its true, and you could say it is, it is very telling that the more free the speech becomes the more inevitable it becomes that people become antisemitic. Like Godwin's Law was purely projection this entire time.
If people being allowed to speak always ends up with them speaking ill of you, if not outright hating, maybe that's a you problem you should work on.
The list of extremely high IQ historical figures who have been branded as “antisemitic” is not short. It’s a meme among classical music composers in particular. Seems like everyone who tried to shape history with his brilliance inevitably started noticing some things.
Amen!
The problem is that it isn't even remotely true. Remember that the "Weimar Government" was run by the Democratic Socialist Party of Germany. The SDP.
Freedom of Speech didn't exist in Germany at the time anyway. The SDP took power in a revolution, while the Communists were engaged in insurrection and terrorism (while a Russian invasion was coming), and they were under attack by the Friecorps (which wasn't even regular German military). Political protest and speech was heavily regulated under the military government during the war, and then heavily regulated after to prevent the Communists from killing the Democratic Socialists. It just didn't help that SDP's government was unable to prevent political violence from either the Communists or the NSDAP. Hell, not only was the Beer Hall Putsch an illegal protest, but it was also considered a riot and an insurrection (it was an insurrection to be sure). The SDP knew how revolutions worked, didn't want further revolutions, and really didn't want the Communists rolling the literal red carpet out for the Red Army (which they tried from 1918-1921)
To be honest the two reasons the government couldn't just completely censor the NSDAP is because they held Leftist / Socialist policy positions, because they are a Socialist party; and because they offered themselves up as a centrist party (aka: Third Positionism).
Yes, the big difference is that they wanted to abolish the constitution of Germany at time. But again: So did every Socialist party, and a lot of the the members of the SDP thought the constitution needed amendments at least. That opinion makes sense, because everyone knew the constitution was fucking retarded (it was made by the SDP). Everyone wanted to abolish the constitution except SDP leadership because it was explicitly designed so that only they could benefit. Major constitutional changes would have been the consensus position. Which direction differed greatly.
When it comes to the holocaust itself: The Nazis never publicly and explicitly stated they wanted a mass murders. This was because of the weariness of the German public against constant revolutions, terrorism, and political violence; followed up with the mass condemnation of Kristallnacht (even by Nazis who didn't get the order). It became apparent that the German people themselves were not actually interested in mass political violence and mass murder. The Nazis literally came to power because they claimed that it would come to a stop, and now the SA were running around setting shit on fire after they had seized power (Socialists always lie). The Nazis used dehumanizing rhetoric that is normal among Socialists and their desire to kill the bourgeoise group. I've shown repeated clips from "The Eternal Jew" which are less nasty than some of the shit coming out from academia (See: Feminists: Men, Black National Socialists: Whites, Queer Revolutionaries: Heterosexuals, Transgender Revolutionaries: Cis-genders, Palestinians: Jews, Trade Unionists: Management). The German people themselves were not even largely in support of political violence against jews, it was just policy of the NSDAP, and so the decision was made that if jews were going to be mass executed, it had to be kept quiet.
So, even with bad rhetoric, there was no use "Free Speech" that caused the holocaust. More than anything, it was State Speech that justified the Holocaust to a disinterested public.
Glad you wrote a whole wall of text about something that happened a century ago when I was talking about right now.
Free speech causes people to be able to air their opinions and thoughts, if there is a trend of them all saying the same things organically on their own, maybe that thing is the problem and not them.
Or does the fact that every crime AI become "racist" mean the AI is broken?
I don't really care, Margaret.
'Stopping us maiming kids under trans is Nazism!'
'Free speech is what the Nazis did to commit genocide!'
'Not allowing us nearly naked near kids is what the Nazis did!'
Quit reminding me of the fact the Weimar Republic CAUSED the Nazis to gain power you empty head rejects. Just be glad this pendulum swing is only removing all your slush funds and all political and cultural influence.
They're not making any of those things sound worse. They're just making Nazis sound better.
The Democratic Socialist Party should have been banned along with the National Socialists and the Communists. It's illegal to be that garbage.
“Telling the truth about Jews got them killed.”
Probably not the message she was trying to get across.
Count for a moment the instances of bias, how she shoehorns her far-left politics into what is supposed to be a question.
None of these people ever question Germany sending weapons to Nazis in Ukraine. Their opposition to Nazi stretches precisely as far as it is in the interests of the deep state to pretend to be anti-Nazi.
Extremists are people who open the borders of your country to an invasion and have weaponized historical guilt to enable terrorism, weekly stabbings and car attacks, and the general destruction of the country.
What Nazis in Ukraine? Larping with some insignia while you're sent off to die for a jew who while you're dying in a ditch takes his whore wife to $50 000 shopping trips in Paris doesn't really strike me as a national socialist. Say Ukraine wins, what would Ukraine look like then? Eternally in debt to globalist west, no religion, state mandated faggotry and country ran by pedos, native population was flushed out, whore women fled the country while the men stayed to be killed, so import shitskins to replace the original population, I'm not sure about you but none of these strike me as nazi values.
Yes Germany pretends to be anti Nazi, that's why anything right of far left green vermin is presented to the masses as domestic terrorists, why it's illegal to question specific historic narratives and why israel has milked billions out of Germany, why German kids from a young age are guilt tripped by public schools, and why you aren't allowed to say anything as you watch your country crumble while your hands are tied.
You stupid slav ogres will continue killing each other by 10s of millions and still blame the nazis for it.
You're a fool if you think the puppet figurehead is someone of any significance. He'll be dumped as soon as it's convenient to dump him. Then they're dying for a Christian? No. They're dying for the US empire now and in the future.
50% African and Islamic, with transgenderism propagated in the schools like elsewhere in the American empire.
They're not. I wouldn't insult you by claiming that. While you're bad, you're not that bad. But do you assume these Nazis have a clue? Or for that matter, that people in a country that has been invaded are capable of rational analysis like this? Hell, we still have people in your country defending your country's actions in WW2 and before.
You got it. Germany uses 'Nazi' to repress domestic opposition. They're not pro-Nazi. They're not anti-Nazi. They're Nazi-neutral.
The ones that kicked your sorry asses west of the Mannerheim Line? To the point where you ceded more territory than Stalin initially demanded. And then you continued the war, and lost even more territory and your country's foreign policy sovereignty for 45 years?
Thanks for the compliment.
I'm blaming the Germans and Americans who are responsible for this war. Also, I'm not a Slav. Take it up with the people who call me a Jew, Arab and Hungarian.
So by your logic then, the US empire is actually Nazi in nature? Yes, I am sure the current US which is a melting pot full of racial tensions, faggotry, which gets milked for billions by a distant middle eastern country is truly what a country that lives up to Hitler's ideals of what a country should look like.
Yep, another Nazi standard.
The only wrong thing my country did in WW2 was not exterminate every single soviet communist subhuman.
So they use it to suppress political opponents but they're neutral to it? Yes, that's why it's illegal by law to question certain narratives, peak neautraility.
You soviet ogres invaded an infinitely smaller country which dealt with a famine and still dropped dead like subhuman filth you are. I take great joy in knowing my grandfathers ended quite a few of your subhuman bloodlines.
Yes, you needed help from the all of the allies to bring 1 country down which in not even half a decade turned Europe upside down, you act all high and mighty now but then in the same breath act like victims of muh nazis, deadliest human war in history, so many casualties. The Ukrainians had it so bad under the Germans, thankfully under you slavic ogres they got to enjoy state mandated Holodomor, every country had it better under Germans but when you soviet ogres took over they all became poverty ridden satellite states.
You still haven't explained to me by which standards is Ukraine a nazi country, in fact you just used this comment to further elaborate on exactly why it isn't one, but is the polar opposite of it.
Yes you are, you aren't an arab or Hungarian, but you're definitely the other two, has to be the worst possible combination a humanoid could be.
No, dummy, the US empire has no ideology. It's just about power. Smart people know this, but unfortunately, you are an Eskimo.
Where is that happening? Fin"land".
Where isn't it happening? Russia.
Aww... not for lack of trying. But unfortunately for you, Finland is good at getting its ass kicked. Is there any war that Finland has actually won? No wonder you've never been an independent country. Imagine being a county in the possession of the Russian tsar and thinking that you get to open your mouth.
Fins taking pride in losing wars and losing territory explains a whole lot of Finnish history, insofar as you have a history, which you don't of course.
lol
True, the Poles LOVED it.
I didn't say that. I would never call Ukraine a country, because it's not. Also, I said that they send weapons to Nazis in Ukraine, which they do.
Let me give you an analogy. If Russia went on a reconquest of Finland, then your sorry ass would be heil Hitler'ing all the way to the front to be passed through the meatgrinder, OK? And you would be fighting for the invasion of Europe by Muslims and blacks, and for transgenderism, because that is what your non-country stands for.
Not quite. Slavs and Jews both have contributed a lot to humanity. Not so the Fins. You're not even Indo-European, while Slavs are. So you have no connection to the Greeks, the Roman Empire, Michelangelo, David Hume, and all the other worthies of Western civilization. Name five Fins who weren't useless wastes of oxygen. Sibelius? Hakkinen? The guy who invented the iglo? Anyone else? Didn't think so.
See, the funny thing is that you're too stupid to realize that calling someone both a Semite (Jew) and a Slav is contradictory. I guess Aristotle's laws of logic haven't penetrated Finland quite as well as numerous invading armies.
Which wars have you won? You're killing each other in Ukraine in Russia, a lose situation for both countries, as you have in your entire history. How did the 90s work out for your dogs in the balkans? The entire slav history is either being on a leash of a foreign country like the Visegrad 4, or killing each other after centuries of being under ottomans like the balkans, and all that over what?
What history does a slav have? Dying to starvation, dying to turks, poor living standards, or being killed by his fellow 80 IQ slav ogre from a neighboring slavic failure of a country. What about jews? You've contributed nothing other than famines, communism and degeneracy. You're like blacks, the worst thing for a slav is another slav, and then you will kill each other and say it was the fault of Nazis.
Remind me again, who was it who sent thousands of violent immigrants to the Polish border? Courtesy of their slavic kin.
A lot of you ukrainian and mainly russian dogs after the war started ran among many western countries, to Finland, if you guys are so great and advanced, why would you prefer to come to Finland? There was no time to sit and think when you live in an arctic region, sandwiched between faggots on the left and violent slavic ogres on the right. I am also Austrian, and I can think of an Austrian who contributed a lot to the good part of humanity, among many other Germans and Austrians who were the greatest minds to walk this earth.
What connection do you have to the Greeks? None, Greeks aren't violent animals. Roman empire? Yes they weren't fond of jews so I guess some. Is it also contradictory to say so when you animals claim inflated numbers of preferred victims of choice per country in WW2?
Is this a 'tu quoque' because you can't think of any wars that Finland has won? Like I said, the Slavs kicked your sorry asses west of the Mannerheim line... TWICE. It seems Finland didn't learn its lesson. Maybe a third time is in order.
How interesting, NATO's running dog is defending Muslims yet again.
Now let's see, Russia has been an independent states for many centuries. You, for one century?
The Slavs were first to space and produced numerous scientists. All of which Eskimos like you never did. If they have an IQ of 80, then you're REALLY f'ed, aren't you?
Oh, only a disproportionate part of modern science. There is a reason that Einstein was a Jew and not an Eskimo.
So let me get this straight... you ignore the fact that your NATO puppetmasters let in MILLIONS of violent immigrants, and prefer to talk about thousands instead? It's funny that you get swamped by immigration and transgenderism and then have the temerity to bash Russia.
You lost to dogs twice? Well, I guess you're lower than dogs.
A very good question. Why would someone prefer living in Finland over dying at the front? Me, I'd prefer dying at the front, because living in Finland shouldn't be called "living" - and it's in fact a fate worse than death. I mean, it's not a coincidence that your capital is called HEL-sinki. It's a little hell in a county that is a hellhole.
I mean, the 'violent Slavic ogres' left you alone as long as you were behaving yourself. That seems to be hard. No impulse control, I think.
Eskimo: WE WUZ HITLER N SHEEEEIT
Just to be clear: you could mention ZERO Fins who have made ANY contribution to humanity. Just as I thought. The Jews have Einstein. The Slavs have Mendeleev and Dostoevsky, among many others. You have ZERO.
And you're a mutt. And even though you put Eskimo in your username, now you claim to be an Austrian. By your own reckoning, you're not even a full-blooded Eskimo even though you pose as a nationalist. How sad.
Well, I'll give you one thing. He was a loser just like you have lost 100% of your wars. Typical of a Fin to worship losers. You are also very good at losing and being occupied, and like worships like.
None? Excuse me, Hellenic and Slavic are both Indo-European peoples. So yeah. They're more closely related than completely unrelated Hellenic and Eskimo.
Again, you slavic dogs are free to leave Finland any time you want, but you came like pussies, Finland is so bad that neighboring Russians suddenly became Karelian patriots who love Finland just to escape your continent wide fail of a country. It's amazing how neighboring a slavic country is a nightmare, you would think at least you would have some ingroup loyalty like the jews but no, it's even worse to neighbor one if you're a slavic country yourself.
I've seen how you russian dogs live, rich you would bring up the capital when your entire country is 1 giant funnel to Moscow, everything east of Moscow is a desolate hellscape. We can agree on one thing, Helsinki is a trash city indeed, and even then it's still centuries ahead of the best slavic cities.
It's telling of the slav success when Poland, the country which was raped from both sides not even a 100 years ago, is the only slavic country somewhat resembling a normal country. And to congratulate Poland on their great achievements, their slavic kin sent waves of violent military aged 70 iq goat fuckers to their border to congratulate them, the beautiful slavic relations.
I wouldn't call myself a NATO dog considering I am the first person to advocate for NATO and EU disbanding. Defending muslims by calling you out on your in group slaughtering (one of many) during the 90s? Very rich slavic history, curious why there are 2 muslim countries in the balkans? And why would you be against muslims? Russia is so slavic and epic that you have the highest muslim population in Europe. Ishallah you will show those ukrainians.
I never claimed that I'm Austrian, if one of my parents is Austrian then it's just a statement, either way I received the best of both worlds, can hardly say you have anything in your lineage to be proud of. H man was a loser, that's why you needed half the world to bring him down and why to this day you cannot stop whining about how you were all victims to him, thankfully the slavs had numerous great leaders which led them to prosperity... Is that how I call it when slavs kill each other on a huge scale for no reason?
Thank you chosen ones for usury, pornography, miscegenation advocating, feminism, foreign immigration agenda NGOs, the first ever tranny mutilation performed, and other great contributions to humanity. I had no clue slavofvenice was this far of a leftist because only leftists consider these things great, the more you know!
What made you think now that I'm ukrainian? Happy 3rd anniversary!
Slav ogre: we wuz Greeks and Romans n shieeeeeet, the Greek greats and Romans are probably looking down on you writing that comment and having the best laugh ever.
Fascism is the only practical application of Socialism. National Socialism is the closest thing to a practical application of Socialism around race.
The establishment Left were in favor of Fascism and National Socialism before they were against it. They were against it only within Europe. National Socialism in Africa and the Middle East has been seen as progressive and anti-colonial.
Gaslighting : supression of freedom of expression is used right now as one of the tools to genocide the native European ethnicities.
She was also overtly suggesting that, somehow, free speech is tantamount to tyranny. This is the first time I've heard anyone on the left make a statement like this. In the entire history of the subject, I've never, not once, heard anyone make such a boldly stupid statement on the subject, which is a complete inverse of reality. It's so stupid it bears repeating and reflecting on it:
free speech = tyranny
Though, it's not surprising they're now trying to make that argument. They know that free speech actually emboldens the people, who can openly talk about their problems, who causes the problems, and what they can do to fix it. The tyrants in power want to keep us weak, stupid, and atomized. They don't want us to have free speech, because they don't want us to talk about any of those things. So, they use their mouthpiece propagandists to try and convince anyone that will listen (the most useful of idiots now), that the complete opposite of reality is true. Par for the course, really, but this an entirely new lie, and a woefully retarded one.
it's right outta 1984, ffs...
She is 100% Mockingbird Media
"Then.. for no reason at all"
It’s shocking and frightening that some people don’t know Nazi’s were big government socialists. You don’t crush political opponents and take over countries by reducing government spending and control
now, to be fair, it depends on context, lol.
'imagine' if you will a political party with their hands up to the elbow in the national coffers, and suddenly their opposition is elected and slams the door shut on their arm...
😂 I know, it's crazy to imagine that a nation might have a federal "aid" agency with a nearly unlimited budget and being treated as effectively independent for decades funding said political party's agenda to the point that they become dependent on it to control the narrative, only to get caught and cut off, but "crazy" as it is, it's not impossible, lmao.
Michael Tracey is a giant faggot, but he's correct in how stupid that attempt at logic was by "spouse of Syrian born totally not a CIA agent" Marge Brennan.
Darnn nazis and their (checks notes) freedom of speech and association!
The more they say their incredibly stupid and hysterical beliefs out loud, the better.
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It wasn't free speech that authorized the holocaust.
It was State Speech.
You should be more worried about NPR.
Throwing poo at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Journalists are literally retarded.
No, free speech causes all the far left faggotry and degeneracy, that's why it's bad, your right to write 'nigger' on the internet comes at the cost of some blue haired 200kg land whale being free to talk about degenerate perversions to children. It is the left who constantly weaponizes free speech and language, while the cuckservative 1776 larpers boast about ''ultimate free speech and the right for you to say anything even if I disagree with it''.