He was found barely a few hours away, with a manifesto, ID used in the shooting, and possibly the gun itself on him in a random McDonald's with his entire internet history wide open filled with easily found political quotes and ideologies, and "friends" from his past already weighing in about him.
Either he was trying to get caught or its a complete conjuration from the Feds to stop the egg on their face.
All I can think is maybe it's a real "it's not about the money it's about the message" moment, and he had intent to go immediately onto making more examples.
Also, there is a certain point where if you think you are smart, you will make a lot of stupid mistakes thinking you are smarter than the people coming after you. It has been the doom of a ton of "smart" killers in history.
Guy, how do you get a computer science degree and not learn about operational security?
I know actual, real, working computer engineers who only do transactions in cash, because they know very well about "customer loyalty programs" and what they are for, and how often they "leak".
Did this guy do his "How to murder" research on the open web? Is he mentally ill?
Could be that he just wants the government to pay for his medical bills. Three hots and a cot with paid medical doesn't sound to bad, especially since NY doesn't have a death penalty.
By "places to get rid of all that shit where it never would have been found" I'm thinking of stuff like burning the IDs and passport in a fire and stirring the ashes.
The gun's harder, but spraying it down with brake cleaner, running a rat tail file down the barrel, disassembling it, smashing the major components with a sledge, and throwing all the pieces in random bodies of water or wooded areas anywhere along his 5-day journey would do the trick.
It's not rocket science: don't keep the shit with you or any place associated with you, and destroy it before disposing of the remains in places that have no connection to you.
Although some of that could just be that the story was blown out of proportion to begin with, so people were prescribing a lot more competence to the shooter than was actually merited.
I thought from the start this was merely...baseline competence. More than we've seen from some losers, and he gets credit for not immediately running after the shots (thus drawing immediate attention), but he brought a gun to the assassination that didn't even cycle.
So, yeah, some of the confusion could just be that people were expecting some elite assassin, when it could (emphasis on could, we still don't know the full story) just be some random retard.
I don't think professional assassins are anywhere near as capable as people think they are. I have no proof of this, of course, but I suspect it's mostly Hollywood glamorization. Just think of how competent they made secret agents, and then compare that to the clowns we have running the intel agencies.
Or imagine a movie like Olympus has Fallen with Gerard Butler being a super super secret service agent. And then remember that the SS is actually a bunch of retards that in broad fucking daylight, let a dude carry a ladder, set ladder up to a roof, climb up, post up on the roof with an AR-15, point it at former/campaigning President, and take a shot before they capped him.
If the COVID era taught me anything it's that most people are retarded, and that includes those same people when acting in their "professional" capacity. Teachers, nurses, doctors, scientists, cops, etc. Assassins probably are not some exception to this rule.
And then remember that the SS is actually a bunch of retards that in broad fucking daylight, let a dude carry a ladder, set ladder up to a roof, climb up, post up on the roof with an AR-15, point it at former/campaigning President, and take a shot before they capped him.
"We were just pretending to be retarded" -- Secret Service
Or imagine a movie like Olympus has Fallen with Gerard Butler being a super super secret service agent. And then remember that the SS is actually a bunch of retards that...
I mean, to be fair, weren't the other agents, while not pants-on-head retarded, not so bright/competent? Butler's character was the exception (to an unrealistic degree, of course), and we weren't supposed to believe all SS agents were like that. Most of the SS got mowed down by equally retarded terrorists, or something.
True, I should have specified. I meant that Hollywood brand of professional assassin.
The only real life requirement to be a "professional assassin" is to be unscrupulous or otherwise twisted enough to accept payment to attempt to kill someone. It might be a somewhat rare breed, but that doesn't mean it's exactly a high bar. You have to crawl under a low bar to be a professional assassin, not leap some elite hurdle.
Point is, people were heaping all sorts of perceived competence on this guy that he probably didn't deserve. At least, that's one explanation.
Cops always say that if you're a normie who isn't in the system for anything over a traffic infraction, go to another state, kill someone you have no connection to whatsoever, and never tell anyone about it, they won't be able to catch you.
Most people aren't psychotic enough to be able to keep that kind of shit to themselves.
The assassination of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in 2010 showed a pretty high level of coordination and sophistication, from what I remember of Dubai's investigation.
but he brought a gun to the assassination that didn't even cycle.
My guess would be that he was using underpowered ammunition rather than a faulty weapon. He was already using a silencer, so subsonic ammunition would be a plausible choice even if it wasn't enough to reliably power the semi-automatic action of the pistol.
I hear that it was a 3d printed gun so the malfunction makes sense. In my limited experience they need a significant amount of breaking in to get them to function as well as an off the shelf version. A friend of mine made one and it jammed a lot
The 3d printed gun uses a Glock style mechanism and Glocks and their clones need modification in order to run suppressors. The added forward weight of the can makes an unmodified Glock not operate correctly.
We may find out soon enough. With how things sound presently, I think he wanted to be caught after letting the mystery and hysteria build up about him.
Why did he not flee the country? I dont understand this at all.
He was found barely a few hours away, with a manifesto, ID used in the shooting, and possibly the gun itself on him in a random McDonald's with his entire internet history wide open filled with easily found political quotes and ideologies, and "friends" from his past already weighing in about him.
Either he was trying to get caught or its a complete conjuration from the Feds to stop the egg on their face.
None of it makes sense. This guy isn't an idiot, he should have known places to get rid of all that shit where it never would have been found.
All I can think is maybe it's a real "it's not about the money it's about the message" moment, and he had intent to go immediately onto making more examples.
He was supposedly booksmart. It doesn't guarantee smartness and competence in every domain. Or at least under pressure, anyways.
Edit: as Bandolier suggests, it could be part of his plan (or instruction).
Also, there is a certain point where if you think you are smart, you will make a lot of stupid mistakes thinking you are smarter than the people coming after you. It has been the doom of a ton of "smart" killers in history.
anyone with a goodreads account and logs (brag) about what books they've read is an idiot.
Guy, how do you get a computer science degree and not learn about operational security?
I know actual, real, working computer engineers who only do transactions in cash, because they know very well about "customer loyalty programs" and what they are for, and how often they "leak".
Did this guy do his "How to murder" research on the open web? Is he mentally ill?
Could be that he just wants the government to pay for his medical bills. Three hots and a cot with paid medical doesn't sound to bad, especially since NY doesn't have a death penalty.
Except people in law enforcement by principle would look in those kind of places first because they're not dumb NPCs in some mid stealth game.
By "places to get rid of all that shit where it never would have been found" I'm thinking of stuff like burning the IDs and passport in a fire and stirring the ashes.
The gun's harder, but spraying it down with brake cleaner, running a rat tail file down the barrel, disassembling it, smashing the major components with a sledge, and throwing all the pieces in random bodies of water or wooded areas anywhere along his 5-day journey would do the trick.
It's not rocket science: don't keep the shit with you or any place associated with you, and destroy it before disposing of the remains in places that have no connection to you.
Yeah, there's a lot that doesn't add up here.
Although some of that could just be that the story was blown out of proportion to begin with, so people were prescribing a lot more competence to the shooter than was actually merited.
I thought from the start this was merely...baseline competence. More than we've seen from some losers, and he gets credit for not immediately running after the shots (thus drawing immediate attention), but he brought a gun to the assassination that didn't even cycle.
So, yeah, some of the confusion could just be that people were expecting some elite assassin, when it could (emphasis on could, we still don't know the full story) just be some random retard.
I don't think professional assassins are anywhere near as capable as people think they are. I have no proof of this, of course, but I suspect it's mostly Hollywood glamorization. Just think of how competent they made secret agents, and then compare that to the clowns we have running the intel agencies.
Or imagine a movie like Olympus has Fallen with Gerard Butler being a super super secret service agent. And then remember that the SS is actually a bunch of retards that in broad fucking daylight, let a dude carry a ladder, set ladder up to a roof, climb up, post up on the roof with an AR-15, point it at former/campaigning President, and take a shot before they capped him.
If the COVID era taught me anything it's that most people are retarded, and that includes those same people when acting in their "professional" capacity. Teachers, nurses, doctors, scientists, cops, etc. Assassins probably are not some exception to this rule.
"We were just pretending to be retarded" -- Secret Service
I mean, to be fair, weren't the other agents, while not pants-on-head retarded, not so bright/competent? Butler's character was the exception (to an unrealistic degree, of course), and we weren't supposed to believe all SS agents were like that. Most of the SS got mowed down by equally retarded terrorists, or something.
True, I should have specified. I meant that Hollywood brand of professional assassin.
The only real life requirement to be a "professional assassin" is to be unscrupulous or otherwise twisted enough to accept payment to attempt to kill someone. It might be a somewhat rare breed, but that doesn't mean it's exactly a high bar. You have to crawl under a low bar to be a professional assassin, not leap some elite hurdle.
Point is, people were heaping all sorts of perceived competence on this guy that he probably didn't deserve. At least, that's one explanation.
Cops always say that if you're a normie who isn't in the system for anything over a traffic infraction, go to another state, kill someone you have no connection to whatsoever, and never tell anyone about it, they won't be able to catch you.
Most people aren't psychotic enough to be able to keep that kind of shit to themselves.
The assassination of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in 2010 showed a pretty high level of coordination and sophistication, from what I remember of Dubai's investigation.
My guess would be that he was using underpowered ammunition rather than a faulty weapon. He was already using a silencer, so subsonic ammunition would be a plausible choice even if it wasn't enough to reliably power the semi-automatic action of the pistol.
I hear that it was a 3d printed gun so the malfunction makes sense. In my limited experience they need a significant amount of breaking in to get them to function as well as an off the shelf version. A friend of mine made one and it jammed a lot
Awww, fuck. A 3D printed gun, and a suppressor? Welp.
They're going to redouble their efforts to throw the First and Second Amendments out the window, aren't they?
No doubt lol. Everyone go download your gun cads now in case you want them in the future and they’re harder to find
The 3d printed gun uses a Glock style mechanism and Glocks and their clones need modification in order to run suppressors. The added forward weight of the can makes an unmodified Glock not operate correctly.
From what I saw it was a standard metal Glock slide and barrel. Wouldn’t it only need a threaded barrel to put a suppressor on?
Why did he still have his gun? That thing should have been at the bottom of a riverbed in Wisconsin by that midnight.
Maybe if he was going to go down blasting, but he didn't.
We may find out soon enough. With how things sound presently, I think he wanted to be caught after letting the mystery and hysteria build up about him.
My theory was he took a bus to Canada right after leaving NY then going to Cuba or whatever