I didn't pay much attention to be honest, but his childless cat ladies comment gave me a positive impression. Other than that he struck me as a pretty unsurprising pick from the populist wing of the party. It looks like he'll clear the low bar of not pulling a Mike Pence, and the sky is the limit from there.
I always thought he was great, and the best pick among those who were considered. Just imagine a Marco Rubio VP appointment from a man who might well die during his term, quite awful.
One thing I have changed my mind about: I thought he would at best be electorally neutral. Why? Because he won fairly narrowly and after a lot was spent, even in a red state like Ohio. That did not suggest that he had great appeal among swing voters or even Trump's working-class base. Turns out, this is a much different stage, or he has learned a lot in the past two years, because it seems that he has managed to impress people more than he did during his Ohio Senate run.
Also, I myself was impressed by his appearances on Joe Rogan and others. Far from being "weird", he's as ordinary as you get, in the good sense of the word.
It's like clockwork. The day after KH accused Trump of 'rambling', all the media started consistently claiming that every speech Trump gave was a 'rambling speech'.
The problem was that the Republican Party was fucking radio silent on his campaign. They wanted him to lose. There were no Vance signs in the streets, there were no Vance ads on TV or radio, they didn't talk about his debate performance, they were trying to sink his career because he was very clearly MAGA at the time.
They are successfully doing to Kari Lake what they failed to do to JD Vance: throw the election by putting up zero funding and zero campaigning, then claim that Trump candidates can't win because they're too radical. This is why Philosoraptor once told me that Mike DeWine carried him to victory, despite DeWine being a feckless Neo-Con cuckold that nobody likes.
No, I'm right about this one. That ad buy didn't go for propping up Vance. It went to tearing down Tim Ryan. I didn't even know who Vance was, let alone that he was running. I have the radio on 24/7 for background noise. They ran campaign ads on why Tim Ryan was bad. They didn't say shit about Vance, who he was, what he had done or anything else. It was "Tim Ryan bad. No vote Tim Ryan." Then, not a fucking word about JD Vance. That's not how you win an election. They wanted him to lose. According to Rich Barris, Vance called him personally because he wanted to know what Barris' polling had shown, because Republican establishmetarians were telling him to drop out a week or so before the vote because he was 4 points down in the polls on their internal polling. He won by 6.
He was anti-Trump and in a lot of leftist circles for a long time but genuinely changed his mind similar with how many of us that used to be on the left have.
There is some doubt in me that his change of heart it is temporary. The fact that he claims to be Christian while his wife is not is very, very iffy. If you truly believe that Christ is the only way to eternal life then you would want the same for your wife and kids.
If things turn sour I can see him turning on Trump and joining Democrats.
I would feel more comfortable with him if he had white kids. Not do to a racist reason but he would be motivated to fight against the left. Similar as with mothers of boys being more conservative.
I’m currently reading Hillbilly Elegy. I also remember when the media loved him and his story about growing up poor. They turned on him fast. Then again Trump was pretty well loved until 2015
I remember he mentioned some time ago how people at Yale were very awkward around him because he was from Appalachia. Is hard to claim "white privilege" in front of someone from Appalachia. I think he was on Ben Shapiro. That part stuck in my mind. He seems ok but I'm not 100% sure he is not playing a role because he wanted a carrier in politics and as a straight white dude without connections he has 0 chance as a Democrat.
If he is playing a role then he is very good at it and has planned this many years in advance, I would be impressed if that was the case. Hopefully it is not.
He mentions being atheist for a period before converting to catholicism. I'd guess he was married prior to the conversion. However I've known many Christians to date and marry non-Christians so who knows.
To be fair, I'm there are a lot of people on the right who are cultural Christians who don't really believe it. It's a costume to wear because it pisses off the left, and they know that Christianity is deeply tied to Western Civilization and our nation's founding, so it's more of a cultural pillar to protect. But deep inside they don't actually believe it. You'd see more Fruit of the Spirit from them if they did.
Ill be honest, I find his extremely rapid rise to prominence extremely suspicious, especially his book and the movie made from it. That shit just doesn't happen, not in today's publishing world that is run almost exclusively by women.
That being said, he's extremely personable in interviews, and he seems to understand much about what modern day politics. That he is a protege of Peter Thiel gives me some pause, but I am fully aware that people like us, the dissidents who shitpost online, don't rise to that level without big money behind it.
I will be watching what he does, and pretty much ignoring what he says. I have watched far too many people run their mouth about doing stuff in D.C. only to be bitterly disappointed by the results to take what anyone says at face value.
Guess mine have, given that I had basically zero opinion on him prior to the nomination. But, his handling of the media over the last couple months has warmed me up to him quite a bit.
Pre 2020.. we were in love with pence. Had memes of johnny quest of him and barron.
I think we should definitely be apprehensive and not cum ourselves over these people unless they actually. Acutally risk something or constantly do the right thing.
Pence was OK pre-2020. Even though he was a neocon, he was loyal to Trump and supporting his policies. If this is how the neocons in Trump's admin are gonna behave, I don't actually don't have a problem with Rubio et al.
I admit that I never even considered him for VP, but I felt good hearing that he was a candidate for the role.
I felt relieved when he got selected, and this was primarily due to his vocal opposition to all the COVID mandates throughout early 2021. He was one of only a few politicians to openly call for people to civilly disobey the vaccine and lockdown mandates. Almost no one in politics wanted to do that at the time.
Suffice to say, I think he's only helped his case since then. I'm glad he was chosen for the role, and I have high hopes for him come January.
I went from vaguely positive to enthusiastic fan after seeing him do a few speeches. Finding out he follows the same political accounts I do on X was really cool too.
I was meh on him at first but he's turned out to be a pretty phenomenal pick. Was too nice to Tampon Tim, should have shown HIS weirdness, but his MSM appearances have all been golden.
He's certainly well-spoken. I'm not sure I trust him enough to be the successor to Trump that everyone is talking him up to be, but he'll be an effective enough VP.
I never got what was so weird about him. I honestly see how Trump is weird, and says weird and outrageous things. But Vance seems like a normal guy to me. It seems that most weird articles about him were about him as a child.
If Elon hadn't taken Twitter away from them, we'd still be seeing snickery-sneery tweets about Vance fucking a couch from Chapo Trap House listeners today.
I didn't pay much attention to be honest, but his childless cat ladies comment gave me a positive impression. Other than that he struck me as a pretty unsurprising pick from the populist wing of the party. It looks like he'll clear the low bar of not pulling a Mike Pence, and the sky is the limit from there.
I always thought he was great, and the best pick among those who were considered. Just imagine a Marco Rubio VP appointment from a man who might well die during his term, quite awful.
One thing I have changed my mind about: I thought he would at best be electorally neutral. Why? Because he won fairly narrowly and after a lot was spent, even in a red state like Ohio. That did not suggest that he had great appeal among swing voters or even Trump's working-class base. Turns out, this is a much different stage, or he has learned a lot in the past two years, because it seems that he has managed to impress people more than he did during his Ohio Senate run.
Also, I myself was impressed by his appearances on Joe Rogan and others. Far from being "weird", he's as ordinary as you get, in the good sense of the word.
Having Tampon Tim as a foil helped him greatly.
It was like there was a memo amongst mainstream media to call him weird
It's like clockwork. The day after KH accused Trump of 'rambling', all the media started consistently claiming that every speech Trump gave was a 'rambling speech'.
He was very impressive in Ohio's senate run.
The problem was that the Republican Party was fucking radio silent on his campaign. They wanted him to lose. There were no Vance signs in the streets, there were no Vance ads on TV or radio, they didn't talk about his debate performance, they were trying to sink his career because he was very clearly MAGA at the time.
They are successfully doing to Kari Lake what they failed to do to JD Vance: throw the election by putting up zero funding and zero campaigning, then claim that Trump candidates can't win because they're too radical. This is why Philosoraptor once told me that Mike DeWine carried him to victory, despite DeWine being a feckless Neo-Con cuckold that nobody likes.
I don't think that is correct: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/mcconnell-allies-launch-ad-blitz-prop-jd-vances-senate-campaign-ohio-rcna43755
McConnell doesn't care about anything as much as being Majorty Leader.
No, I'm right about this one. That ad buy didn't go for propping up Vance. It went to tearing down Tim Ryan. I didn't even know who Vance was, let alone that he was running. I have the radio on 24/7 for background noise. They ran campaign ads on why Tim Ryan was bad. They didn't say shit about Vance, who he was, what he had done or anything else. It was "Tim Ryan bad. No vote Tim Ryan." Then, not a fucking word about JD Vance. That's not how you win an election. They wanted him to lose. According to Rich Barris, Vance called him personally because he wanted to know what Barris' polling had shown, because Republican establishmetarians were telling him to drop out a week or so before the vote because he was 4 points down in the polls on their internal polling. He won by 6.
I think he is ok.
He was anti-Trump and in a lot of leftist circles for a long time but genuinely changed his mind similar with how many of us that used to be on the left have.
There is some doubt in me that his change of heart it is temporary. The fact that he claims to be Christian while his wife is not is very, very iffy. If you truly believe that Christ is the only way to eternal life then you would want the same for your wife and kids.
If things turn sour I can see him turning on Trump and joining Democrats.
I would feel more comfortable with him if he had white kids. Not do to a racist reason but he would be motivated to fight against the left. Similar as with mothers of boys being more conservative.
I’m currently reading Hillbilly Elegy. I also remember when the media loved him and his story about growing up poor. They turned on him fast. Then again Trump was pretty well loved until 2015
I remember he mentioned some time ago how people at Yale were very awkward around him because he was from Appalachia. Is hard to claim "white privilege" in front of someone from Appalachia. I think he was on Ben Shapiro. That part stuck in my mind. He seems ok but I'm not 100% sure he is not playing a role because he wanted a carrier in politics and as a straight white dude without connections he has 0 chance as a Democrat.
If he is playing a role then he is very good at it and has planned this many years in advance, I would be impressed if that was the case. Hopefully it is not.
These people will claim 'white privilege' in front of a homeless white boy from a poor Eastern European country.
Hope so too
At least shes not a negress but a pajeet.
They can still benefit from affirmative action, hence my issue.
He mentions being atheist for a period before converting to catholicism. I'd guess he was married prior to the conversion. However I've known many Christians to date and marry non-Christians so who knows.
To be fair, I'm there are a lot of people on the right who are cultural Christians who don't really believe it. It's a costume to wear because it pisses off the left, and they know that Christianity is deeply tied to Western Civilization and our nation's founding, so it's more of a cultural pillar to protect. But deep inside they don't actually believe it. You'd see more Fruit of the Spirit from them if they did.
Ill be honest, I find his extremely rapid rise to prominence extremely suspicious, especially his book and the movie made from it. That shit just doesn't happen, not in today's publishing world that is run almost exclusively by women.
That being said, he's extremely personable in interviews, and he seems to understand much about what modern day politics. That he is a protege of Peter Thiel gives me some pause, but I am fully aware that people like us, the dissidents who shitpost online, don't rise to that level without big money behind it.
I will be watching what he does, and pretty much ignoring what he says. I have watched far too many people run their mouth about doing stuff in D.C. only to be bitterly disappointed by the results to take what anyone says at face value.
The 3 hour Rogan interview changed my mind. I didn't think much of him and that conversation really opened my eyes.
Guess mine have, given that I had basically zero opinion on him prior to the nomination. But, his handling of the media over the last couple months has warmed me up to him quite a bit.
after hearing him speak, both on podcasts and during the debates, I like him a lot more.
Pre 2020.. we were in love with pence. Had memes of johnny quest of him and barron.
I think we should definitely be apprehensive and not cum ourselves over these people unless they actually. Acutally risk something or constantly do the right thing.
It’s a shame Pence wasn’t based, because the Johnny Quest memes were really some of my favorites.
If you disagree with what Pence did on Jan 6, does this mean you think that Harris has a right to claim 'fraud' and give the election to herself?
Pence was OK pre-2020. Even though he was a neocon, he was loyal to Trump and supporting his policies. If this is how the neocons in Trump's admin are gonna behave, I don't actually don't have a problem with Rubio et al.
No. I thought he was fuckin' great, and he continues to be great.
I admit that I never even considered him for VP, but I felt good hearing that he was a candidate for the role.
I felt relieved when he got selected, and this was primarily due to his vocal opposition to all the COVID mandates throughout early 2021. He was one of only a few politicians to openly call for people to civilly disobey the vaccine and lockdown mandates. Almost no one in politics wanted to do that at the time.
Suffice to say, I think he's only helped his case since then. I'm glad he was chosen for the role, and I have high hopes for him come January.
I went from vaguely positive to enthusiastic fan after seeing him do a few speeches. Finding out he follows the same political accounts I do on X was really cool too.
I was meh on him at first but he's turned out to be a pretty phenomenal pick. Was too nice to Tampon Tim, should have shown HIS weirdness, but his MSM appearances have all been golden.
May even be higher on him than Trump tbh.
I went from having almost no opinion of him to thinking he'd be a great presidential candidate in 2028 pretty quickly.
He's certainly well-spoken. I'm not sure I trust him enough to be the successor to Trump that everyone is talking him up to be, but he'll be an effective enough VP.
I never got what was so weird about him. I honestly see how Trump is weird, and says weird and outrageous things. But Vance seems like a normal guy to me. It seems that most weird articles about him were about him as a child.
"Weird" was a retarded ActBlue character assassination attempt.
If Elon hadn't taken Twitter away from them, we'd still be seeing snickery-sneery tweets about Vance fucking a couch from Chapo Trap House listeners today.