I've been looking at upgrading my PC from a secondhand 2060 I got in early 2021 for cheap. Right now, Newegg has a sale event this week where all sorts of things can be purchased at 10% off, including new GPUs. I already kinda regret not looking into this when they were being bundled with Wukong.
Right now, they're still being bundled with Star Wars: Outlaws. Been over a month now. I have no idea when they'll next bundle their cards with a game I actually want. And Outlaws is a game I really don't want.
What would you guys think in this situation?
Bundles with games aren't really worth it. You only get the base game and you usually have to buy a more expensive card. Get a card with better bang for your buck and get the game in 6-12 months when it's complete and on sale.
The last time I saw a bundle with some good games I was buying a TNT2 that was bundled with Thief The Dark Project and Need for Speed Hot Pursuit.
Lucky bastard, my Voodoo 3 only came with a demo disc for Thief. (and TES Redguard)
I remember the first Geforce which I could only get bundled with a game. I can't remember what it was, though. I think it may have been mechwarrior 2, oddly enough, as there are a bunch of "OEM graphics card" versions of it.
I don't even know if there are any games out worthy of expensive gpus anymore, all the 'aaaa' games from major studios are boring goy slops, 8k doesn't matter if you don't even want to play them
I need a new GPU but I do some hobby 3d modeling and animations and such so wouldn't mind the quicker render and simulation times. But yeah it's been a long time since I've upgraded for vidya specifically
Honestly, I've done some AI-rendered art too, and I've started to hit a limit in output quality, while most of the "creator community" has moved on to higher spec models that my current GPU can't reasonably handle.
I do 3d modeling and animation. With a 4080 it still takes a while. rendering in cycles takes me ages lol. 1080p at 30fps and about 1024 sample rate. For a 1minute 30sec animation, it takes like 5 days or 100hrs to render. Im probably gonna get a 5090 or a cheap 4090 or if 5080 gets more than 16gb of vram. The 4080, ill relegate to a 2nd computer to be a secondary renderer. Have 1 copy of the same project on the 2 computers ans have it render different camera or part of the scene.
DirectX12 requirements are limiting me far more than GPU requirements are and my hardware's several years out of date at this point.
If the discount is steep enough, who cares what game it's bundled with? You're not obligated to install it.
Well, for what I'm looking at anyway ($600 4070 Super), the discount is not more valuable than a new game I'd want. Though when that'll come around again, God knows when. Would've been amazing to get both this discount AND a free $60-70 game that I actually want to play.
After all the years of shortages in GPUs, this is a luxury issue.
But one that you can generally expect to continue, might as well enjoy the luxuries you can get to the fullest.
Buy the bundle then make a fun video about DEI failure while you demonstrate what a worthless frisbee it makes, and post it HERE!
That Star Wars game is dogshit fwiw
No shit. It disgusts me that there's a possibility that my purchase of a new GPU will in any way support Ubisoft. Not to mention they're the type to use special corporate launchers requiring corporate accounts just to play a fucking offline single player game. I might have even considered "rage-playing" since I'd be getting it for free, but not with that shit.
AMD is supposed to release mid-range GPUs in January 2025.
After-Christmas sales migh be worth waiting.
I was looking to build a budget PC with a Ryzen 7600, but Amazon reviews for affordable B650 WiFi boards are full of horror stories rated 1 Star for all of them and I just don't want to have to bother with returning part, surprise shipping fees for exchanges, or arguing with warranty services.
Starwars Outlaws would require them paying me to accept their bundle whatever.
but there are times when there is a sweet spot for buying. The 10XX series cards stand out for their time or the cards 4 years before that.
The 1080 might be the best GPU I have ever owned. Fucker is almost a decade old at this point.
This is why you just buy stuff from one to two years back and be satisfied with teh upgrade because it still absolutely crushes the performance of your six year old card.
Fair enough. For many things in life.
Caught myself last week thinking ''I could have gotten this laptop with 16GB RAM instead of 8GB, with an equivalent processor and more storage if I had waited''.
Yeah, waited 18 months. I really like my laptop for the price I paied.
Same for a GPU if the price was good for the performance when bought.
Integrated graphics let me play stuff up to Deep Rock Galactic. FPS on the threshold of playable, but I never had a single problem with that laptop. ( Ideapad 3, Ryzen 5 5625U 8GB RAM ).
Crashed a grand total of 0 time. It's quiet when not running a game, and tolerable while it does that.
Previous bad experiences after buying a prebuilt PC ( a jet engine at idle ), then an ASUS laptop of shit quality with multiple problems. ASUS's bad reputation was acquired fairly.
''WTF is «quality control»?'' ~ ASUS
Was literally just on the receiving end of this when I attempted to upgrade my motherboard in September; opted for a partial refund because I didn't have the patience to do an RMA. Just got another board and called it a day.
Must have been very frustrating.
What board and components did you end up using, and how did it go?
From the reviews, sounds like with whatever brand and model, you'll be playing Russian Roulette. I'm too tired to stress with that.
The Ryzen 7600 X worked perfectly fine out of the box. The Gigabyte motherboard did not. Ended up going with an ASRock.
That thing runs sooooo good. Though, my previous ASRock and Intel i7 7700k combo was perfectly fine and worked (and continues to work) perfectly fine. However, the motherboard had a 32GB RAM cap, and in order to get a board that supported 64GB of RAM I needed a whole new mobo + CPU combination. Hence the silliness of wasting time and money on the DOA board. Though I may end messing around with it later to see if I can get it work if I ever feel like building out a spare system.
i bought a 7900XTX for Wokung and it still ran like crap on max setting (45 avg FPS on max setting with FSR turned off)
and most of the times, i'd be playing some old ass vidya made 20+ years ago because all the modern ones have niggers and wimminz everywhere (faggots too)
when i play an old ass classic that uses the word "the Blackest Villain" i know i'm in the right place.
Dont look for game bundles. You will just cheap out and regret it later. Just buy a good mid range AMD gpu like a 7600. Or a 4070 if you can find one for cheap. They will run anything.
The game is irrelevant, rofl. Just use it for the lol. The only thing that matters is availability and cost.
The holidays right around the corner, surely there should be some halfway decent sales during that time. It's not as good as it used to be since retailers wised up but there's still money to be saved.
I'd recommend wait, there's always deals to be had, unless you're worry about supply disruption then fomo and buy now.
Personally, currently on 3060 and holding out for 5060 or 5070 but not loving the vram specs based on rumors. It's insane they given us 3060 with 16gb for $100 more while 5060 is gonna be 8gb and 5070 at 12gb. What is this? 2021? Sure I love gaming, but being able to run AI locally is an added value to my gpu purchase. Guess I'll just wait and see.
They don't want you to be able to run local AI without buying an A100 for $15,000.
Those with Tesla P40s enjoy tea and the long wait.
I dislike Apple but am envious of their unified memory, not enough to buy their overprice devices. I'll just see what this space is like in 2 years. No reason to jump in this early.
Yeah.. 5080 with 16gb vram. Thats so scummy of nvidia.
The GPU i bought... came with redfall delux edition (100 dollar value). I remember trying to sell the game a week before it came out. Tried to sell it for 40 dollars. No one wanted. Not even at 20 dollars. Rolf.
Blackwell, nvidia's next gen, will be released sometime between now and maybe january. It was slated for Q4 2024, but its probably gonna be announced and/or released at CES in january.
That depends.. bundles where almost all you could do when 90% of the cards were being scalped. Has that improved?
I'd only upgrade if you absolutely need to because of performance issues. There should be better deals later this year.
At this point, I'm seeing 4070s at Walmart for $500.
Yeah, I've seen some decently priced 4070s, but I'm currently looking at 4070 Super. Well, maybe I'll look at the standard 4070s again during this sale before I make my final purchase.
If you can wait it's always better to wait. Keeping up with the joneses is retarded. But there are valid reasons to want more performance. If you need more perf now, it's the time to upgrade. Don't overthink it really. Save money until you need to upgrade. Need, not want. And I consider sub60fps "need" territory.
If a $60 game is the difference maker for buying a new GPU, you can't afford a new GPU.
Giving Disney money is giving Disney money, doesn't matter if they rolled it in as pork on a much larger purchase, it's still a plenty good reason not to purchase.
Refusing to be responsible or stick to principles as consumers is why we have monopolistic media creators openly spitting in consumers' faces now.
I agree with this take.
And with the other points of it likely being on good discount just after Christmas too, and there not being an urgent need to upgrade, OP can boycott responsibly and likely get a better deal (and game) for their troubles.
Some people don't like hearing the truth, but this is the correct take. It's a ridiculous luxury item that will be literal garbage in a few years.
The only reason I have a decent GPU is because I need it for work -- which is developing a 3d rendering engine.
The last top-end GPU I bought was a Voodoo 5 5500. What an expensive mistake that was.