They're doing the poor orcs meme
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You have to love their never-ending love and respect for the source material. Evil cannot create, only corrupt.
Orcs are evil bastardizations, who are a plague when left on their own, and even worse when serving a master. They're violent thugs, with no redeeming qualities. The only time any sympathy should be given to them, is at the very point of their creation/corruption/twisting. That's the only point at which they could be considered anything close to innocent. After that, they're murder machines and dangerous pests.
The weird thing is to these ppl orcs deserve sympathy but nationalists somehow don't
That's how fucked up their thinking is
Satan loves perversion and corruption
Calling it thinking? That's amusing.
Also, if they happen to be using “orcs” as slang for “Russians,” it’s appropriate to laugh at videos of their deaths.
So, interestingly, I don't think it was ever stated where Ungoliant came from, and all the giant spiders were supposed to be descended from her. She's powerful enough that Morgoth fears her, something which I think can only be said of her, maybe two of the Valar (Tulkas and Manwe, I think), and Eru*. I'm not sure there's an explanation for her origins that's completely consistent, but I think it's most likely that she's a creation of Melkor's part in the music that gained power by eating other powerful things, and not a fallen Maia.
I'm pretty sure these were twisted beasts (or twisted copies of beasts) in Tolkien's legendarium, but I don't think (as you mentioned) he ever fully nailed everything down, so I could be mistaken on this point.
*There are several tales in Tolkien's legendarium where an exceptional person punches above their weight, and I might be forgetting a case where a Maia, Elf, Dwarf, or Man managed to make Morgoth afraid, so please correct me if I'm wrong on this particular point.
I couldn't remember if that fight was vs Melkor/Morgoth or one of the ancient dragons. But I was pretty sure there was a point where one of the descendants of Feanor made Morgoth deeply regret his decisions with the Silmarils.
Nerrrrrd.....but thank you, that was very well written.
So like Democrat voters manipulated into violence during BLM?
The Israel/Palestine thing backfired because half the DNC is financed by Muslims.
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Schizo-posting that non-whites and non-straights are violent thugs, murder machines, dangerous pests, and pedophiles.
Where's the lie?
Truth is a violation of rule 16 comrade.
And some, I assume, are good people
The writers can't fucking help themselves. Holy fuck.
There's no fucking gray area or relativism in Tolkien! It's good versus evil. Post modernist shitlibs can't fucking grasp that. If the protagonists are against something, that something of course must be marginalized and a poor oppressed angel.
The goblins outnumber men! They would wipe every village and town off the face of Middle Earth. There is no 'nuance' here. They don't make treaties. They can't write. They only stop plundering and eating you if you kill enough of them. Hollywood, STOP.
It's like the writers of Rings of Power are subscribed to the Daily Gondor, not realizing it was satire.
You're looking at two members of a race of 'cannibals', except it's technically speaking not cannibalism, because eating humans isn't consuming the flesh of members of the same species. :')
Elevated humanitarian ideals mean nothing in a brutal 'Medieval' period where you're fighting for your life against a race that can out breed you and is hellbent on your destruction.
Tolkien orcs don't even "breed" they're manufactured in vats, they're basically organic battle droids.
Really, though? Thought both Orcs and Goblins could breed.
Orcs and Goblins may refer to the same thing, maybe I'm not deep enough in the lore but my understanding is that they breed through the vats. Could only apply to the Uruks though
Thats just the movies (mud pits). First Orcs were corrupted elves that then proceeded to breed like everything else.
I thought the mud pits were them EXCAVATING Uruks (the corrupted elves) imprisoned within the earth. There was that whole one-sided dialogue with Saruman feeding that Uruk's thirst for vengeance.
Nah, that was just how Jackson decided to portray Saruman's creation of the Uruk-hais. As I recall, they were actually just a crossbred race of orks imbued with some of his power.
Wow, I was really off the mark with what I said. I'm just getting back from seeing the extended edition at my local theater, and I must've misremembered what Saruman was saying- it was the Orcs that were corrupted elves, and the Uruk-hai were not imprisoned in the earth, those mudpits really were breeding vats or something, Gandalf was recounting "crossbreeding Orcs and Goblins" to create Sauron's army of Uruk-hai.
They can and not just with one another, Morgoth was able to breed especially degenerate Men with his orcs to produce half-orcs/'goblin-men' in the First Age and Saruman did it again (using Dunlendings for the human half) in the Third Age. They served as elite troops & spies, IIRC one reported on the Hobbits' movements at Bree.
orcs don't even reproduce so what the fuck is that
While the asians depict orcs as raping murderous hordes.
That child is giving such an uncomfortable "knowing" look and I hate it.