They're doing the poor orcs meme
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So, interestingly, I don't think it was ever stated where Ungoliant came from, and all the giant spiders were supposed to be descended from her. She's powerful enough that Morgoth fears her, something which I think can only be said of her, maybe two of the Valar (Tulkas and Manwe, I think), and Eru*. I'm not sure there's an explanation for her origins that's completely consistent, but I think it's most likely that she's a creation of Melkor's part in the music that gained power by eating other powerful things, and not a fallen Maia.
I'm pretty sure these were twisted beasts (or twisted copies of beasts) in Tolkien's legendarium, but I don't think (as you mentioned) he ever fully nailed everything down, so I could be mistaken on this point.
*There are several tales in Tolkien's legendarium where an exceptional person punches above their weight, and I might be forgetting a case where a Maia, Elf, Dwarf, or Man managed to make Morgoth afraid, so please correct me if I'm wrong on this particular point.
I couldn't remember if that fight was vs Melkor/Morgoth or one of the ancient dragons. But I was pretty sure there was a point where one of the descendants of Feanor made Morgoth deeply regret his decisions with the Silmarils.