Now, caveat, this is the guardian and the guardian readers are the biggest middle class leftists you've ever seen and the observer follows closely behind but I do think this poll is fairly significant.
In terms of the severity of the response, 44% think the government has reacted proportionately to the outbreaks of violence and unrest and 26% think it didn’t go far enough. Only 18% believed ministers had overreacted. There was a similar view on the sentences handed out, with some 70% thinking they were either about right or not harsh enough.
While Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of X, has been criticising the UK’s approach to arresting those found to have been inciting online, the public appear to disagree. Musk has described Stephen Parkinson, the director of public prosecutions in England and Wales, as being part of “The Woke Stasi”. However, 67% of voters said it was fair that people had been arrested for inciting racial hatred on social media, with 15% disagreeing.
Basically a chunk of the normies think they didn't go hard enough on the rioters and that's one thing but they fucking advocate for people to be persecuted online just for shitposting and venting frustration which is what most people who have been arrested were doing contrary to what the media think but apparently that's how much the conversation has shifted. The average member of the public thinks that if you simply have a negative opinion about migration you are dangerous and should be locked up.
I fucking denounce my country and wash my hands of it, especially with the TERFs now on the march against single men just for being single and refusing to date them which is what their screeching is really about. For the record, I do believe the unrest will continue and people will try to fight back, but if the normies are this far gone and think people should be arrested over social media posts this country is done.
Call me black pilled and a doomer, I am, if you're in the UK gtfo fast or make plans now, this is going to get far worse than I anticipated if the public are on side with this bullshit and I think they are.
I pray this is more the Guardian readership being a small, mostly London demographic trying to act like they speak on behalf of the population as if not UK's fucked.
And I don't mean in a '1984' kind of fucked, I mean you will constantly tred on the boots of those that are HIGHLY militant and want to be left alone with your virtue signalling and you will have NO way to fight back.
Basically you're going to piss off the Irish who are already burning shit down and they'll start burning and bombing shit in England.
The UK is heading towards this future as you have a two tier police too scared to deal with violent criminals and increasingly militant groups realising they don't have the resources to stop them.
Oh honestly I think Muslim caliphates will be declared next year and the Irish will be uniting and it will be open season against the police at least in that country plus if any construction sites for migrants go up they're going to burn that down instantly.
The normies in the UK though? They're going to virtue signal themselves to death. Fun fact as well regarding Britain's quirks, a lot of Londoners have posh country homes in Wales they go on holiday to. I think after they've ruined London they're going to move to Wales next and you'll see it happen en masse. When Sadiq Khan started getting really hard on the lockdowns in London a lot of the shit heads were openly filmed getting on the train and leaving.
It's like every left wing enclave, they vote for this shit, the area gets completely ruined beyond any help and then they move onto another nicer area where they repeat the process again like fucking locusts. It's the south park little country hick town meme on steroids.
It was something that Andrew Klavan was noticing when he lived in London even in the 1990's, and he has talked about it frequently. That he would have British people always talking to him about how Americans are too brash and uncouth, but then he noticed that they would roll over for practically every situation seemingly for no other reason than they dont want to make a fuss (as that would be "uncivilized"). So he has been saying he saw this coming for a while.
Leafs too.
At least the Bongs had a rich & powerful history to be proud of.
The entire Canadian identity essentially boils down to a smug inferiority complex about "not being Americans".
Yet they are obsessed with their goyslop reality TV culture. And mindlessly import any gay race communism astroturfed protest movement without a hint of irony.
It's important to note that almost all of the Crown Loyalist either fled to Canada or were forcibly removed from the colonies. Canada, and the other Commonwealth nations, are largely bootlickers. They claim the woke virus is an American export (not entirely wrong) but at the same time embrace it, reinforce it, and turn it up to 11.
As bad as things in the US have gotten we are way behind CA, AU, NZ.
This is one of the things I've despised about having to live among leftists because in Britain they pull that shit constantly especially when it comes to guns. They have no fucking clue and yet will virtue signal even as children are raped and stabbed over here. I also have a particular hatred about the brainwashing the average normie has gone under because of the NHS.
If the TikTok nurses and ClapForNHS campaign wasn't enough of a giveaway I don't know what to tell you, I can't stand it.
Pretty much what's going on in the states too. After the lockdowns pushed the tech sector to widely adopt telecommuting, lefties realized they could move to small cities while still making big city money.
I started seeing stories come up about techies complaining about how the places they moved to didn't have the amenities they expected, how they were too churchy and politically far-right, and even one story that I didn't think was possible: Drag queens hosting an event in a small Texas town. I saw a picture of it and I recall seeing armed guards.
I don't have a link for it but a while back I saw a post on reddit about a family that moved from California to a small east Texas town. They were happy that their kids made friends, played outside until it got dark, all the neighbors were friendly and would help out in any way if needed. It was a great place to live but they were upset that it "just felt too conservative for them."
I really wonder what made that small town so nice.
So they're Welshing on their opinions? How sad.
Worse than that, we are already starting to see evidence that the Republicans and Unionist have been making truces in the name of "Fuck Keir Starmer" and "Auslander Raus". So it is something they should be very concerned with IMO.
This Irish?
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1825104279901720841
Their government DOESN'T represent their population
As shown by their failed referendum attempts and their immigration centres 'bursting into flames'...
Ah democracy....
Not to defend the British public, but a big chunk of the "approval" is likely from people who simply have no idea about the multi-year (and sometimes effectively death due to being put into a prison full of sandniggers) sentences for blasphemy, they're clueless, not evil. They think "The government would never! They just protect us from far-right rioters!".
Their ignorance is exactly what concerns me the most, even I didn't think they'd be this bad because I figured if enough moms and old boomers were thrown in jail it would at least red pill some of them. Instead it seems they've gone full bubble and insist on pretending the government isn't interested in their cat videos not realising that glowies are scanning their messages with their family members talking about migration.
I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but I think that it's going to take Muslim caliphates being declared and them getting locked up themselves before they finally think "Okay, maybe mass migration and the WEF is a bad idea". The only good thing out of all of this is that the Labour party are purely going to get the blame for it, you can already see the leftists coping hard when Keir Starmer does anything bad constantly trying to blame the Conservatives.
Well, yeah, the ones who got thrown into jail and their friends will probably get redpilled, but noone else will until it happens to them too, they probably won't even hear about it.
Many others probably just didn't want to admit they supported the riots for fear of being added to a list and getting a visit from lesbian Nan
I’m starting to trend towards the “ignorance does not merit innocence” stance. These people should know better and deserve to be punished amongst the rest of the enemies
Ignorance is weakness that allows evil to thrive. I have zero sympathy for it, especially after all this time.
"Opinion poll of observer readers" yeah you can disregard the findings.
People like draconian action by the Government against others. They'll even engage in cognitive dissonance when the state turns against them to justify their treatment.
I think the vast majority of people enjoy being ordered around, told what to think and have the metaphorical boot placed firmly upon their head.
Women especially enjoy being ordered around because they can demonize anyone who doesn't go along with it.
ah yes, criticism of your government.The ultimate form of violence.
It's just so much more fucked than I thought it would be, I thought it would be over misgendering or some dumb shit like that lol
Polls about issues, with results released to the public for free, are about trying to manipulate you more than educate.
"90% of people approve of eating shit" -> "Wow, I should reconsider my dont-eat-fucking-shit stance!"
"49% of people think owning nothing is awesome" -> "Wow, we're so divided!"
"5% of people think college is a waste of time" -> "Wow, I guess college is definitely not a waste of time!"
Agreed, it's the UK though, don't underestimate how left wing people are here.
Oh wow, 72% approval... again.
I'll put it like this. Either 39% of Brits think violence against immigrants is the only way forward, or 72% of [INSERT LEFTIST NARRATIVE]. Both can't be true.
The fact that there were riots at all, and that the Conservative party took such a huge loss, and the fact that the Labour party had such a weak win, tells me that the manufactured consent isn't working. Don't get too black-pilled.
Y'all got a long way to go, and the US will still have to liberate you, but it's not at all hopeless.
It really reminds of those COVID polls with a plurality of "The unclean purebloods are a danger to us all & should be hauled off to jail" opinion vibes.
"Public"? Or London, Manchester, Birmingham respondents?
I'm very mixed on it lol
70% of the country thinking the response to the riots is fine and that 2-3 year sentences are appropriate should be absolutely bonechilling terrifying to anybody.
Of course I approve of this government's actions! It's illegal to disapprove after all.
Learn Hungarian?
“public approves” = guardian approves of locking up anyone who questions immigration