Wait why was this news? He's a very young man that was forced into the public thanks to activist leftists, only alive today thanks to the 2nd ammendment so that of course is his primary focus.
The fact he'd write in Ron Paul than risk ANY compromised to the 2nd and no mention of EVER supporting Dems says how much of a none issue this is, just needless drama which at most should have the Trump team clarifying their commitment to the 2nd ammendment.
I respect that he made the world a slightly safer place, but all I read from this is he’s genuinely fucking retarded when it comes to politics.
A vote for anyone but Trump might as well be a vote for the Democrats. But Ron Paul of all people? Dude has one foot in the crypt and they just finally got rid of another zombie presidential candidate
To be fair, most of us were fucking retarded when it comes to politics at that age. Even if we were "right" on something things, it was usually for retarded reasons.
Of course the GOP will turn on him like they did last time. That's why we vote for MAGA candidates like Gaetz and pillory establishment scum like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnel.
We hate the GOP, so we are doing a hostile takeover.
The number one best thing for this nation would be to toss the name “Republican” and for Trump to go full Bull Moose and make MAGA an official third party. Practically impossible since leftists don’t want another TDR who actually foils their plans and actually makes the country great again. Modern republicans are nothing more than safety checks for the leftist agenda. Stop the “reach across the aisle” bullshit, they all want me dead because of my sex and race.
The fact the Dems ain't even an option to him shows he may have been slightly retarded in chosing Ron Paul initially which is understandable given his age, he ain't Suicidal to pick a Dem.
Clown show. This was written by a committee and makes him sound like he's under duress.
It would have been easy to say, "My comment was tongue in cheek. I would have loved to have seen a President Ron Paul, but voting Trump in 2024 is the best way to protect our constitutional rights." I'm constantly awed by how badly everyone fucks up this media stuff.
This was written by a committee and makes him sound like he's under duress.
It WAS. He was bullied by Trump nuts and since he can't work a real job ever he's dependent on the right to be able to afford food.
Or he could have said "I stand by my comments that Trump isn't strong enough on 2A but obviously Harris is worse and my write-in vote for Paul won't help 2A rights in this country." because he obviously wasn't being tongue in cheek and it's silly to lie like that.
Well yeah. The first statement was unwise, but he's like twenty, is he not? And after being catapulted into public notoriety for having to defend himself against terrorists, he's likely got quite a few of the wrong kind of people whispering in his ear.
I've never heard any mention of Kyle's father being in the picture.
His mother and two now college-aged sisters seem like white, low income normies struggling to get by through working a series of low pay entry-level jobs.
AFAIK they supported him all the way through the trial and suffered emotionally along with him. I've listened to some interviews with them and haven't ever heard any leftist TDS or BLM stuff.
Rittenhouse wrote a book within the last year disclosing some unflattering info about his family such as his mother having a series of deadbeat bfs and his sister failing out of school.
I believe upon reading the manuscript that they asked that he leave some of their personal details out of his book. But Rittenhouse essentially ghosted them and published anyway.
Then I saw a news piece a few months back stating they were getting evicted.
His mother & sisters are adults so Kyle isn't obligated to help them financially.
But the narrative from them I've seen in interviews is that his trial destroyed their lives in Wisconsin/Illinois forcing them to flee. But Kyle has essentially chosen his new circle of handlers and his 15 minutes of fame over his own flesh & blood who are struggling like many Americans and seem like good people.
Congrats to all the Trumptards* who bullied this kid into submission for taking a silly but principled stance. Really showed the left you're not a cult!
*Trumptards doesn't refer to all Trump supporters (I am one), but those with the opposite of TDS who desperately lick his choad and act like everyone who isn't in love with Trump wanted the shooter to not miss
The problem is that in US politics you only have two choices and it's all or nothing. It's not a choice between Ron Paul, Trump or Harris. It's just Trump or Harris.
A vote for Paul is effectively a vote for Harris and you don't have to be a "Trumptard" to have a problem with that.
Exactly. Is it really a principled stance if sticking to it gives the exact opposite result of what it means to accomplish? Intent doesn't matter. Only results do.
The two-party US system is not normally a problem of choosing between two candidates, because the multiple choice part happens in the primary.
In the general election you're reaffirming your support for your party's candidate as you've already made your choice. It's only the non-committed people mostly in the center who chose to only select from two candidates that have only two choices.
Of course this time the Democrat party failed to use a primary of many candidates to select their nominee.
There's a problem with the lesser evil argument, which is that if you allow one party to morally blackmail you into voting for them simply because they're not quite as terrible as the other party, they'll be able to take your vote for granted. You completely abdicate any leverage you otherwise had, because the party you're closer to no longer has to win your vote.
True, but on the other hand, in a 2 party system each party has to appeal to the lowest common denominator. They cannot satisfy every group. They don't have to appeal to everyone but they also can't.
That's the advantage of a multi party parliamentary system. There you can actually have parties that appeal to most everyone. That's the theory at least. Europe shows us that they still manage to pervert that system in a multitude of ways.
I don't agree, even though some of those points are correct. Some are completely false. We're all disappointed about Hillary, but Trump got the Durham process started. Maybe the other prosecutors were right - no jury will convict her.
Didn't build the wall.
He started the wall despite no funding from Congress and another impeachment threat.
Didn't drain the swamp.
He uncovered it and everyone realized the swamp is bigger than any one administration can deal with.
Pushed Operation Warp Speed. Pardoned rappers and Israeli spies.
The only reason some of us voted for Trump in 2016 was Hillary was worse. Same with Romney before him and lord was McCain only just barely better (probably wasn't in reality).
Our "winner takes all system" is really fucking awful in that regard, and it becomes more awful by the year as the division of Left/Right stops being gentlemanly disagreement about details and instead an entire separate reality.
At the end of the day though, we have to make the best decision for the best possible outcome in reality. Not in some ideal utopian world we don't live in where a "principled stance" helps get children raped and mutilated.
The contract for Operation Warp Speed was absolutely fine. I have good friends that work in biotech, and I was happy to see the opportunity for them to see what they could do without onerous amounts of government red tape.
What actually happened in the name of "Operation Warp Speed" had no resemblance to what was on the contract, and it's hardly Trump's fault that every single institution and regulatory agency involved basically lied to everybody; most of which happened after he was out of office already.
Yea it was huge faggot energy from these grifters. Rittenhouse being principled in a way that forced the Trump team to be more committed to 2A support is far smarter then every Trump nut hugger getting mad at him for it.
If this platform was for TD exclusively, it wouldn't have nearly as much of an appeal. They "allow" other subs to exist because it bolsters the MAGA brand as being for free speech and it draws in people who wouldn't have otherwise bothered.
Sounds like he was bullied. I’m a huge Ron Paul fan but voting for Trump since he is on the ballot, but if that is what he wants to do he is free to do so. I imagine he was bullied behind the scenes.
Wait why was this news? He's a very young man that was forced into the public thanks to activist leftists, only alive today thanks to the 2nd ammendment so that of course is his primary focus.
The fact he'd write in Ron Paul than risk ANY compromised to the 2nd and no mention of EVER supporting Dems says how much of a none issue this is, just needless drama which at most should have the Trump team clarifying their commitment to the 2nd ammendment.
I respect that he made the world a slightly safer place, but all I read from this is he’s genuinely fucking retarded when it comes to politics.
A vote for anyone but Trump might as well be a vote for the Democrats. But Ron Paul of all people? Dude has one foot in the crypt and they just finally got rid of another zombie presidential candidate
To be fair, most of us were fucking retarded when it comes to politics at that age. Even if we were "right" on something things, it was usually for retarded reasons.
i look back even ten years ago and some of my political takes make me cringe; still and all we learn, we grow and that makes us human
Of course the GOP will turn on him like they did last time. That's why we vote for MAGA candidates like Gaetz and pillory establishment scum like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnel.
We hate the GOP, so we are doing a hostile takeover.
The number one best thing for this nation would be to toss the name “Republican” and for Trump to go full Bull Moose and make MAGA an official third party. Practically impossible since leftists don’t want another TDR who actually foils their plans and actually makes the country great again. Modern republicans are nothing more than safety checks for the leftist agenda. Stop the “reach across the aisle” bullshit, they all want me dead because of my sex and race.
Gaetz is still anti-White, "WE NEED MORE JULIO AND JAMAL AND LESS KAREN!" https://files.catbox.moe/aqnvke.mp4
The fact the Dems ain't even an option to him shows he may have been slightly retarded in chosing Ron Paul initially which is understandable given his age, he ain't Suicidal to pick a Dem.
Clown show. This was written by a committee and makes him sound like he's under duress.
It would have been easy to say, "My comment was tongue in cheek. I would have loved to have seen a President Ron Paul, but voting Trump in 2024 is the best way to protect our constitutional rights." I'm constantly awed by how badly everyone fucks up this media stuff.
It WAS. He was bullied by Trump nuts and since he can't work a real job ever he's dependent on the right to be able to afford food.
Or he could have said "I stand by my comments that Trump isn't strong enough on 2A but obviously Harris is worse and my write-in vote for Paul won't help 2A rights in this country." because he obviously wasn't being tongue in cheek and it's silly to lie like that.
Well yeah. The first statement was unwise, but he's like twenty, is he not? And after being catapulted into public notoriety for having to defend himself against terrorists, he's likely got quite a few of the wrong kind of people whispering in his ear.
There's reporting that he's cut ties with his mother and two sisters, leaving them in abject poverty.
They had to flee Illinois and change their names as a result of harassment and discrimination from the trial.
Last I heard they were being evicted from their new home.
I've never heard any mention of Kyle's father being in the picture.
His mother and two now college-aged sisters seem like white, low income normies struggling to get by through working a series of low pay entry-level jobs.
AFAIK they supported him all the way through the trial and suffered emotionally along with him. I've listened to some interviews with them and haven't ever heard any leftist TDS or BLM stuff.
Rittenhouse wrote a book within the last year disclosing some unflattering info about his family such as his mother having a series of deadbeat bfs and his sister failing out of school.
I believe upon reading the manuscript that they asked that he leave some of their personal details out of his book. But Rittenhouse essentially ghosted them and published anyway.
Then I saw a news piece a few months back stating they were getting evicted.
His mother & sisters are adults so Kyle isn't obligated to help them financially.
But the narrative from them I've seen in interviews is that his trial destroyed their lives in Wisconsin/Illinois forcing them to flee. But Kyle has essentially chosen his new circle of handlers and his 15 minutes of fame over his own flesh & blood who are struggling like many Americans and seem like good people.
Congrats to all the Trumptards* who bullied this kid into submission for taking a silly but principled stance. Really showed the left you're not a cult!
*Trumptards doesn't refer to all Trump supporters (I am one), but those with the opposite of TDS who desperately lick his choad and act like everyone who isn't in love with Trump wanted the shooter to not miss
The problem is that in US politics you only have two choices and it's all or nothing. It's not a choice between Ron Paul, Trump or Harris. It's just Trump or Harris.
A vote for Paul is effectively a vote for Harris and you don't have to be a "Trumptard" to have a problem with that.
Exactly. Is it really a principled stance if sticking to it gives the exact opposite result of what it means to accomplish? Intent doesn't matter. Only results do.
This line works for lefties too:
"A vote for RFK Jr. is effectively a vote for Trump and you don't have to be a 'Kamalatard' to have a problem with that"
Well, it's true. Just don't tell them ;)
It not only works for lefties, but is actually true. This isn't Europe. We vote for the candidate here, not the party.
The two-party US system is not normally a problem of choosing between two candidates, because the multiple choice part happens in the primary.
In the general election you're reaffirming your support for your party's candidate as you've already made your choice. It's only the non-committed people mostly in the center who chose to only select from two candidates that have only two choices.
Of course this time the Democrat party failed to use a primary of many candidates to select their nominee.
There's a problem with the lesser evil argument, which is that if you allow one party to morally blackmail you into voting for them simply because they're not quite as terrible as the other party, they'll be able to take your vote for granted. You completely abdicate any leverage you otherwise had, because the party you're closer to no longer has to win your vote.
True, but on the other hand, in a 2 party system each party has to appeal to the lowest common denominator. They cannot satisfy every group. They don't have to appeal to everyone but they also can't.
That's the advantage of a multi party parliamentary system. There you can actually have parties that appeal to most everyone. That's the theory at least. Europe shows us that they still manage to pervert that system in a multitude of ways.
I don't agree, even though some of those points are correct. Some are completely false. We're all disappointed about Hillary, but Trump got the Durham process started. Maybe the other prosecutors were right - no jury will convict her.
He started the wall despite no funding from Congress and another impeachment threat.
He uncovered it and everyone realized the swamp is bigger than any one administration can deal with.
Neither of these were in the 2016 platform.
The only reason some of us voted for Trump in 2016 was Hillary was worse. Same with Romney before him and lord was McCain only just barely better (probably wasn't in reality).
Our "winner takes all system" is really fucking awful in that regard, and it becomes more awful by the year as the division of Left/Right stops being gentlemanly disagreement about details and instead an entire separate reality.
At the end of the day though, we have to make the best decision for the best possible outcome in reality. Not in some ideal utopian world we don't live in where a "principled stance" helps get children raped and mutilated.
The contract for Operation Warp Speed was absolutely fine. I have good friends that work in biotech, and I was happy to see the opportunity for them to see what they could do without onerous amounts of government red tape.
What actually happened in the name of "Operation Warp Speed" had no resemblance to what was on the contract, and it's hardly Trump's fault that every single institution and regulatory agency involved basically lied to everybody; most of which happened after he was out of office already.
Yea it was huge faggot energy from these grifters. Rittenhouse being principled in a way that forced the Trump team to be more committed to 2A support is far smarter then every Trump nut hugger getting mad at him for it.
This is not a Trump forum, bitch.
Wtf kind of retarded argument is this?
If this platform was for TD exclusively, it wouldn't have nearly as much of an appeal. They "allow" other subs to exist because it bolsters the MAGA brand as being for free speech and it draws in people who wouldn't have otherwise bothered.
News flash, Boards like Conpro exist here, and so does this board, just cus we dislike Zion-Don or whatever doesn't mean this isn't our site too lol.
Sounds like he was bullied. I’m a huge Ron Paul fan but voting for Trump since he is on the ballot, but if that is what he wants to do he is free to do so. I imagine he was bullied behind the scenes.
The kid's an idiot and always was one.