This is after the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims rejected a settlement of $55 million over 10 years that would have seen Jones able to retain control of his assets and earn income to pay off the debt.
...While Chapter 11 protections could have led to a larger payment to the families of the victims, they feared it would allow Jones to continue broadcasting to his fans....likely leave the families with less than $4 million between them after legal bills are paid.
These normal people turning down $50+ million totally prove just how Wrong and Bad Alex Jones is. These are clearly not crisis actors, and are exactly who they appear to be. How could Alex Jones have done this to them?!
...he was ordered to pay almost $1.5 billion to the families of victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. The victim’s families had sued Jones for defamation after he had claimed the massacre that left 26 people dead was a hoax.
The whole thing would be a joke, if it weren't so evil.
I'm rooting for AJ to give them nothing. An untimely fire and boating accident doing away with his possessions. Move to Brazil or something and start a new studio. They are trying to make sure he has nothing, so give them nothing in return.
In what legal sense are those people even entitled to that money? Jones causes zero damage saying what he said, it’s not like he said the kids didn’t die or something, and everything about Sandy Hook is pretty much settled at this point. Does this just open up the door for more petty lawsuits?
I think its because he "defamed" them by claiming they were crisis actors and faked everything. Which could be considered extremely damaging to them socially and their credibility, if not drive them out of their communities at the worst.
That law is working pretty much exactly as it should in terms of them claiming it. The injustice is how he was railroaded hard without much ability to defend himself really (if he could present any evidence at all, no matter how dumb, to show why he thought that they should have no real case) and then a massively oversized payment at the end just to punish him for existing.
I think they are overplaying it massively just to make the case seem more legitimate, but after something like MeToo I think we can all see how these laws were meant to be used to protect us from someone ruining our life over random accusations.
That law is working pretty much exactly as it should in terms of them claiming it. The injustice is how he was railroaded hard without much ability to defend himself really (if he could present any evidence at all, no matter how dumb, to show why he thought that they should have no real case)
Didn't his dipshit attorney accidentally send the defense attorney the ENTIRE contents of Jones' phone text records? Sounds like Jones had the opportunity to defend himself, but not the ability to do so in a way that would make him less fucked.
and then a massively oversized payment at the end just to punish him for existing.
Probably to prevent him from just using his business to continue to defame them.
Alex Jones can be both a conspiracy theorist no one listens too and a guy who's opinion of certain people caused a billion dollars of damage to their reputation.
This is why people around here mocking the left with "no bad tactics, only bad targets" baffles me. I just don't understand that at all. The only bad tactics are ones that don't work, like taking the high road. Censorship, violence, propaganda, they are all just tools. Use them when there is a correct target.
People still have this idea of a karmic universe where if you take the high road then the universe itself will reward you for it and vice versa for those who took the low. Which is a pretty natural belief and pounded in by most religions on top of it.
But we don't live in one of those universes, not anymore. Yet its a hard mindset to break because of how deeply ingrained it is.
It's a nice principle. We don't want to live in a society of cutthroats. People need the fear of God or some higher power. But people also need to understand there's a time for peace and a time for war, and we can't have the former without the latter.
This is an example of how the new, younger, unbelieving conservative right are sadly following after Babylon the harlet and Satan just like the left. This generation wants to start adopting leftist's "might makes right" tactics with no regard for what's true, what's right, only with what works in this world system.
It's sad to see.
And here's the thing, even if there was no God and morality didn't matter, only results through human effort, this would be doomed to failure anyways.
The time to start behaving like the left in order to gain the power of the left was decades ago while people were unaware, snatching up all the systems of power, education, entertainment, government, etc. That ship has sailed..Once that was accomplished forget about it. Our role is to suffer persecution and follow the lamb. If you want to have Satanic levels of control and power, then you either need a time machine to convince the right 50 or 60 years ago (at least) to act like the left is going to, or just go ahead and jump ship and become a leftist. Just stop being a conservative. If power is what you want, the left will happily welcome you into their fold if you tow their line.
The version of conservatives that abandon all Biblical principles in favor of moral relativism and evil tactics doesn't look much different than the leftists, so I don't know what they think they will accomplish. It's very short sighted to say the least. Do they think that the power crazed immoral conservatives that would succeed at beating the left at the their own game would suddenly become moral and create a moral society like what we had in the past the second they get in power?
And if I had a 100% guarantee that it would succeed, I wouldn't advocate it because it's wrong.
King David had an easy shot at getting at Saul, who God told David, that David would be king. All he had to do was kill Saul and he had won. Heck, God told David that he's the rightful king. What did David do? Did he do the easy tactic? All his peers were encouraging him to. No. He knew that God would rather he do what's right and he trusted God and he saved Saul's life allowing himself to continue to be pursued and persecuted. Shadraq, Mishaq and Abindigo had no promise that they wouldn't be killed by the furnace. They said, if God wants us to die, we'll die, but if he wants to preserve our life, then we will survive. They didn't worry about tactics. They worried about truth and righteousness.
All of this essay only matters if there exists only two options. Which is full evil or full "righteousness" with 100% commitment to either and every single tactic and option having been assigned to one or the other.
Apparently we can only let legions of children be molested and castrated, because to do things like "apply social pressures" and "directly protest the institutions" is just 'adopting the Left's tactics' and thereby bad. No in between options can exist, only 100% its bad. Just sit and make the decision that everyone must suffer because to act is bad and makes us just as bad as our enemies.
There exists more than just the two polar extremes, and to constantly push this false dichotomy is more evil than any of those "unbelieving conservatives" will ever reach.
That's a complete straw-man of what I advocated for. If all the left did was apply social pressures and directly protest institutions, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The left lie, cheat and steal and even resort to murder if they have to. They don't care about right or wrong, they don't care about truth. They act in complete accordance to ways of Satan. Applying social pressure, such as what Christians WERE doing back in the days when they were active in the culture, like when they'd protest Marilyn Manson concerts, or directly protest institutions are not at all a wrong thing to do.
I'm talking about the actual left's tactics.
It's convenient to say that Kavanaugh is a rapist so we'll say he's a rapist.
The right is doing the same thing with no regard for truth. It's convenient to say that Tom Hanks and all Hollywood people are pedophiles so we'll say they're pedophiles....evidence? pff, you're thinking like a conservative. We don't like him. It benefits us to say it, and therefore he is. Guilty until proven innocent if the target is someone we don't like. "What is truth?" as pontius pilate asked Jesus (Who IS the truth, the way and the life)
Sandy Hook plays a central role in the gun grabbing religion. The Christian equivalent of denying Sandy Hook is denying the Resurrection, but unlike with Christianity blasphemy laws against leftism are vigorously enforced. These evil families have done more to convince me that the whole thing is a hoax more than anything Alex Jones or his guests have.
Alex Jones has said so many things that are clearly just bullshit and has made his money exploiting feebleminded people with his shenanigans
Alex Jones has said a few things that were bang-on-the-nose and has helped increase a cynical scepticism among some people who would otherwise have dismissed everything he has said as bullshit.
He's committed no crimes which would send him to jail and has expressed his first amendment rights in a capitalist situation to allow for making money from speaking his mind.
He did cause an excessive amount of undue stress to the families of victims and that comes with the price of being sued. He has enough of a following to start from scratch and build that audience back up and continue in some form or other.
His being silenced completely gives enough precedence to stop others, who can't encourage an audience to follow them, from taking the risks he has taken - this is vehemently wrong.
He's pissed off somebody powerful but what they are punishing him for is also punishing others to stop them from expressing themselves which goes against their first amendment rights.
It's a tough battle. Sue someone into oblivion because they are a dick - sure.
Stop others from being a dick because they might say something that you don't like - nope!
As I've said, he'll recover in some shape or form. But little Billy who thinks that maybe the Democrats have a questionable history of losing receipts in important areas or lanky Sally who think that the Republicans always let the same bidders get contracts when they never finish to the proper quality assurance standards won't get to say their piece because they might upset the applecart in a free speech democratic society.
Yeah, those demon beasts that hide next to Stonehenge and are in league with the Greys are one thing, these dead kids were flown in and are actors who aren't really dead is quite another.
Jones has been more right than he has been wrong. More to the point, when he is wrong he is usually exploring a line of thought out loud on air.
With the Sandy Hook thing he was exploring the idea that it might be a hoax. On air, he reviewed the facts at his disposal and concluded that it wasn't a hoax, but opportunists were making the most of it to push their agenda.
Which was exactly what was happening. Jones never named any particular people as crisis actors; he spent vastly more time talking about the genuine tragedy.
If you are so fucking sure that he has smooth-brain takes, name a few. Was it the Gay Frogs? Or what?
In your post you come across as a massive, authoritarian faggot. You are happy to use the weight of law and the men with guns that it commands to silence people you don't like; just as long as it is the right people. I guess you see yourself as the person in charge?
You are so right! Everyone knows that Rumsfeld is a Lizard Man. Like a Lizard would every put up with some guys from Beta Retiular giving advice to the Whitehouse.
I can't tell if he is a master troll or it was just wishful thinking.
We should absolutely sue Jones into the ground! Hey, what legal taught do you think we could use? How about the whole "actual harm" thing? I guess we should just make shit up?
These normal people turning down $50+ million totally prove just how Wrong and Bad Alex Jones is. These are clearly not crisis actors, and are exactly who they appear to be. How could Alex Jones have done this to them?!
The whole thing would be a joke, if it weren't so evil.
I'm rooting for AJ to give them nothing. An untimely fire and boating accident doing away with his possessions. Move to Brazil or something and start a new studio. They are trying to make sure he has nothing, so give them nothing in return.
Keeps a mustache and calls himself Alejandro Juans
Sounds good in principle, although Brazil, specifically, would be a terrible choice.
Lulalaland
In what legal sense are those people even entitled to that money? Jones causes zero damage saying what he said, it’s not like he said the kids didn’t die or something, and everything about Sandy Hook is pretty much settled at this point. Does this just open up the door for more petty lawsuits?
Have you considered the fact that Jones Man Bad?
Absolutely legal because anything the courts approve becomes that.
Just? Absolutely not, but that horse is now glue and tar.
I think its because he "defamed" them by claiming they were crisis actors and faked everything. Which could be considered extremely damaging to them socially and their credibility, if not drive them out of their communities at the worst.
That law is working pretty much exactly as it should in terms of them claiming it. The injustice is how he was railroaded hard without much ability to defend himself really (if he could present any evidence at all, no matter how dumb, to show why he thought that they should have no real case) and then a massively oversized payment at the end just to punish him for existing.
I think they are overplaying it massively just to make the case seem more legitimate, but after something like MeToo I think we can all see how these laws were meant to be used to protect us from someone ruining our life over random accusations.
Didn't his dipshit attorney accidentally send the defense attorney the ENTIRE contents of Jones' phone text records? Sounds like Jones had the opportunity to defend himself, but not the ability to do so in a way that would make him less fucked.
Probably to prevent him from just using his business to continue to defame them.
In any sane world Jones would win the appeal, especially in Texas. That said, it will cost him $50 million to get there and he may not win.
We're clearly not in a sane world though. :(
Alex Jones can be both a conspiracy theorist no one listens too and a guy who's opinion of certain people caused a billion dollars of damage to their reputation.
Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
- One nation under Satan
They said plain as day this was political lawfare to shut him down.
Alex Jones has been a joke for as long as I can remember so who did he actually piss off? This only makes me convinced Sandy Hook was a hoax.
In any case, there's no point in saying how unfair it is. Fight back or shut up.
Just about every single thing that's happened in history has been called a hoax by someone, but this is the hill they're choosing to die on?
Except they're not dying on it, they're winning on it.
The left does whatever works. The right says "we can't use weapons against our enemies, that would be wrong."
This is why people around here mocking the left with "no bad tactics, only bad targets" baffles me. I just don't understand that at all. The only bad tactics are ones that don't work, like taking the high road. Censorship, violence, propaganda, they are all just tools. Use them when there is a correct target.
People still have this idea of a karmic universe where if you take the high road then the universe itself will reward you for it and vice versa for those who took the low. Which is a pretty natural belief and pounded in by most religions on top of it.
But we don't live in one of those universes, not anymore. Yet its a hard mindset to break because of how deeply ingrained it is.
That's a good term for it.
It's a nice principle. We don't want to live in a society of cutthroats. People need the fear of God or some higher power. But people also need to understand there's a time for peace and a time for war, and we can't have the former without the latter.
This is an example of how the new, younger, unbelieving conservative right are sadly following after Babylon the harlet and Satan just like the left. This generation wants to start adopting leftist's "might makes right" tactics with no regard for what's true, what's right, only with what works in this world system.
It's sad to see.
And here's the thing, even if there was no God and morality didn't matter, only results through human effort, this would be doomed to failure anyways.
The time to start behaving like the left in order to gain the power of the left was decades ago while people were unaware, snatching up all the systems of power, education, entertainment, government, etc. That ship has sailed..Once that was accomplished forget about it. Our role is to suffer persecution and follow the lamb. If you want to have Satanic levels of control and power, then you either need a time machine to convince the right 50 or 60 years ago (at least) to act like the left is going to, or just go ahead and jump ship and become a leftist. Just stop being a conservative. If power is what you want, the left will happily welcome you into their fold if you tow their line.
The version of conservatives that abandon all Biblical principles in favor of moral relativism and evil tactics doesn't look much different than the leftists, so I don't know what they think they will accomplish. It's very short sighted to say the least. Do they think that the power crazed immoral conservatives that would succeed at beating the left at the their own game would suddenly become moral and create a moral society like what we had in the past the second they get in power?
And if I had a 100% guarantee that it would succeed, I wouldn't advocate it because it's wrong.
King David had an easy shot at getting at Saul, who God told David, that David would be king. All he had to do was kill Saul and he had won. Heck, God told David that he's the rightful king. What did David do? Did he do the easy tactic? All his peers were encouraging him to. No. He knew that God would rather he do what's right and he trusted God and he saved Saul's life allowing himself to continue to be pursued and persecuted. Shadraq, Mishaq and Abindigo had no promise that they wouldn't be killed by the furnace. They said, if God wants us to die, we'll die, but if he wants to preserve our life, then we will survive. They didn't worry about tactics. They worried about truth and righteousness.
All of this essay only matters if there exists only two options. Which is full evil or full "righteousness" with 100% commitment to either and every single tactic and option having been assigned to one or the other.
Apparently we can only let legions of children be molested and castrated, because to do things like "apply social pressures" and "directly protest the institutions" is just 'adopting the Left's tactics' and thereby bad. No in between options can exist, only 100% its bad. Just sit and make the decision that everyone must suffer because to act is bad and makes us just as bad as our enemies.
There exists more than just the two polar extremes, and to constantly push this false dichotomy is more evil than any of those "unbelieving conservatives" will ever reach.
That's a complete straw-man of what I advocated for. If all the left did was apply social pressures and directly protest institutions, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The left lie, cheat and steal and even resort to murder if they have to. They don't care about right or wrong, they don't care about truth. They act in complete accordance to ways of Satan. Applying social pressure, such as what Christians WERE doing back in the days when they were active in the culture, like when they'd protest Marilyn Manson concerts, or directly protest institutions are not at all a wrong thing to do.
I'm talking about the actual left's tactics.
It's convenient to say that Kavanaugh is a rapist so we'll say he's a rapist.
The right is doing the same thing with no regard for truth. It's convenient to say that Tom Hanks and all Hollywood people are pedophiles so we'll say they're pedophiles....evidence? pff, you're thinking like a conservative. We don't like him. It benefits us to say it, and therefore he is. Guilty until proven innocent if the target is someone we don't like. "What is truth?" as pontius pilate asked Jesus (Who IS the truth, the way and the life)
Sandy Hook plays a central role in the gun grabbing religion. The Christian equivalent of denying Sandy Hook is denying the Resurrection, but unlike with Christianity blasphemy laws against leftism are vigorously enforced. These evil families have done more to convince me that the whole thing is a hoax more than anything Alex Jones or his guests have.
People on call-in shows called it a hoax, not even Alex
The fact he was even ordered to pay out that money is evidence enough that the courts are fucked.
Disgusting Jewish lawfare
pay them nothing. make them use state power to silence him.
I'm torn on this one.
Alex Jones has said so many things that are clearly just bullshit and has made his money exploiting feebleminded people with his shenanigans
Alex Jones has said a few things that were bang-on-the-nose and has helped increase a cynical scepticism among some people who would otherwise have dismissed everything he has said as bullshit.
He's committed no crimes which would send him to jail and has expressed his first amendment rights in a capitalist situation to allow for making money from speaking his mind.
He did cause an excessive amount of undue stress to the families of victims and that comes with the price of being sued. He has enough of a following to start from scratch and build that audience back up and continue in some form or other.
His being silenced completely gives enough precedence to stop others, who can't encourage an audience to follow them, from taking the risks he has taken - this is vehemently wrong.
He's pissed off somebody powerful but what they are punishing him for is also punishing others to stop them from expressing themselves which goes against their first amendment rights.
It's a tough battle. Sue someone into oblivion because they are a dick - sure. Stop others from being a dick because they might say something that you don't like - nope!
As I've said, he'll recover in some shape or form. But little Billy who thinks that maybe the Democrats have a questionable history of losing receipts in important areas or lanky Sally who think that the Republicans always let the same bidders get contracts when they never finish to the proper quality assurance standards won't get to say their piece because they might upset the applecart in a free speech democratic society.
As I said, I'm torn on this one.
What a faggot take. “Oh no he said something mean! Waaahhhh imma sue him! Waaaahhhh”
Fuck off.
Yeah, those demon beasts that hide next to Stonehenge and are in league with the Greys are one thing, these dead kids were flown in and are actors who aren't really dead is quite another.
It really isn't.
Jones has been more right than he has been wrong. More to the point, when he is wrong he is usually exploring a line of thought out loud on air.
With the Sandy Hook thing he was exploring the idea that it might be a hoax. On air, he reviewed the facts at his disposal and concluded that it wasn't a hoax, but opportunists were making the most of it to push their agenda.
Which was exactly what was happening. Jones never named any particular people as crisis actors; he spent vastly more time talking about the genuine tragedy.
If you are so fucking sure that he has smooth-brain takes, name a few. Was it the Gay Frogs? Or what?
In your post you come across as a massive, authoritarian faggot. You are happy to use the weight of law and the men with guns that it commands to silence people you don't like; just as long as it is the right people. I guess you see yourself as the person in charge?
That is real.
ATRAZINE in the WATER.
https://archive.ph/DuAN9
I'll open with Greys are in the White House with George W. Bush (Video evidence).
You're move!
You are so right! Everyone knows that Rumsfeld is a Lizard Man. Like a Lizard would every put up with some guys from Beta Retiular giving advice to the Whitehouse.
I can't tell if he is a master troll or it was just wishful thinking.
We should absolutely sue Jones into the ground! Hey, what legal taught do you think we could use? How about the whole "actual harm" thing? I guess we should just make shit up?
You’re a faggot.
Happy Pride month retard*
*We're 8 days in and I'm replying to being called a faggot and to "Retard" means slow in this case.
Well..you are so…