All of this essay only matters if there exists only two options. Which is full evil or full "righteousness" with 100% commitment to either and every single tactic and option having been assigned to one or the other.
Apparently we can only let legions of children be molested and castrated, because to do things like "apply social pressures" and "directly protest the institutions" is just 'adopting the Left's tactics' and thereby bad. No in between options can exist, only 100% its bad. Just sit and make the decision that everyone must suffer because to act is bad and makes us just as bad as our enemies.
There exists more than just the two polar extremes, and to constantly push this false dichotomy is more evil than any of those "unbelieving conservatives" will ever reach.
That's a complete straw-man of what I advocated for. If all the left did was apply social pressures and directly protest institutions, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The left lie, cheat and steal and even resort to murder if they have to. They don't care about right or wrong, they don't care about truth. They act in complete accordance to ways of Satan. Applying social pressure, such as what Christians WERE doing back in the days when they were active in the culture, like when they'd protest Marilyn Manson concerts, or directly protest institutions are not at all a wrong thing to do.
I'm talking about the actual left's tactics.
It's convenient to say that Kavanaugh is a rapist so we'll say he's a rapist.
The right is doing the same thing with no regard for truth. It's convenient to say that Tom Hanks and all Hollywood people are pedophiles so we'll say they're pedophiles....evidence? pff, you're thinking like a conservative. We don't like him. It benefits us to say it, and therefore he is. Guilty until proven innocent if the target is someone we don't like. "What is truth?" as pontius pilate asked Jesus (Who IS the truth, the way and the life)
And I've had plenty of people sperg the exact same spiel you gave (though with less Satan allegories) about such miliquetoast tactics. Shit KIA1 spent a long time arguing that emailing advertisers is SJW tactics and thereby bad and we shouldn't do it anymore.
Again, you've just created a fully black/white dichotomy of "if its evil its Leftist tactics" and built everything off that platform. Which then leads into right back into "if the Left does it, its evil" cuckery that created the cucked Right we have right now. Its amusing you made the point about how they should've done something 60 years ago, then go on to repeat the same arguments they made to each other that ended with them not doing it and leading to this mess.
Also you shouldn't complain about strawmen when your entire argument is based on caricatures of other people's beliefs where they act in absurd blind extremism because it suits your argument. The entire original point was about pacifism regarding karma (or God as that seems to be your preference) leading people to complete inaction or worse, which then somehow became "those younger Righties will lie, cheat and steal!"
There is in fact a valley of "what works" between "staying clean by never going outside" and "devolving into inhumanity for victory at any cost."
I made the point about "should've been done 60 years ago" in a hypothetical of if there is no God and all you desire is raw naked power. If you read it again in context, I'm saying that the left already made the choices to gain raw naked power a long time ago.
I say that shouldn't be the desire or goal of conservatives or moral people.
I'm using a hypothetical where even if there was no god, becoming the left to defeat the left is a losing battle anyways because they did what needs to be done FOR THAT GOAL, a goal that I do not think is a good goal, a long time ago. I'm saying even from an earthly standpoint, your options are become part of Babylon or resist it to the point of death.
Here's the goal I believe in.
"If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content."
"These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless." Revelation 14
11 And they overcame [the antichrist] because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.
Revelation 12
Those are the goals I believe in. That 60 years ago thing was saying if you want to have raw naked immoral power like the left, which is not something I recommend, then either join the left or build a time machine to somehow orchestrate the right getting that power.
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but forfeit his soul?"
That verse is why I said, even if there was a 100% guarantee of "winning" by those means, I would still choose "losing" because Christ has already overcome the world and you may gain some sort of temporal power that the left has, but at what cost? Do you really envy the left's power? I don't. The price they've paid for it is obvious. They are an embarrassment on every level. That's not a power I envy. If you have the power of Christ abiding in you, you have something far, far greater than all the governments in the world.
So let everyone else suffer endlessly because you want to just sit on your hands and let God fix everything for you. Its always amusing how you people, whose religion expressly prohibits suicide, just end up creating it with extra steps anyway. Because that's all you are advocating, pacifistic suicide for everyone so that you don't have to do anything.
That's far closer to cowardice than righteousness. Funny how the Bible verses people love to pull out always end up relieving them of having to do anything but sit back and not having to take action that might be hard or risky.
Its even more amusing because it reveals the pure selfishness and self-centeredness of their religious beliefs. That they put their own cleanliness of the soul above any morality or other person. Any action that might stain them is expressively forbidden, even if it means leaving all the innocents of the world to infinite suffering.
I'm sure Jesus is very proud of you. Afterall, he was king of never thinking of anyone but yourself and your reward.
you may gain some sort of temporal power that the left has
Funny how you ignored everything else I said except the one directly calling you out for your retarded 60 year comment and still stand on this Strawman of "there is literally no other option besides 200% full commitment to being like the Left or not doing anything at all."
I understand its all you have that let's you parrot verses, but you need to do better than that if you want to proselytize your pacifistic suicide to people.
All of this essay only matters if there exists only two options. Which is full evil or full "righteousness" with 100% commitment to either and every single tactic and option having been assigned to one or the other.
Apparently we can only let legions of children be molested and castrated, because to do things like "apply social pressures" and "directly protest the institutions" is just 'adopting the Left's tactics' and thereby bad. No in between options can exist, only 100% its bad. Just sit and make the decision that everyone must suffer because to act is bad and makes us just as bad as our enemies.
There exists more than just the two polar extremes, and to constantly push this false dichotomy is more evil than any of those "unbelieving conservatives" will ever reach.
That's a complete straw-man of what I advocated for. If all the left did was apply social pressures and directly protest institutions, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The left lie, cheat and steal and even resort to murder if they have to. They don't care about right or wrong, they don't care about truth. They act in complete accordance to ways of Satan. Applying social pressure, such as what Christians WERE doing back in the days when they were active in the culture, like when they'd protest Marilyn Manson concerts, or directly protest institutions are not at all a wrong thing to do.
I'm talking about the actual left's tactics.
It's convenient to say that Kavanaugh is a rapist so we'll say he's a rapist.
The right is doing the same thing with no regard for truth. It's convenient to say that Tom Hanks and all Hollywood people are pedophiles so we'll say they're pedophiles....evidence? pff, you're thinking like a conservative. We don't like him. It benefits us to say it, and therefore he is. Guilty until proven innocent if the target is someone we don't like. "What is truth?" as pontius pilate asked Jesus (Who IS the truth, the way and the life)
And I've had plenty of people sperg the exact same spiel you gave (though with less Satan allegories) about such miliquetoast tactics. Shit KIA1 spent a long time arguing that emailing advertisers is SJW tactics and thereby bad and we shouldn't do it anymore.
Again, you've just created a fully black/white dichotomy of "if its evil its Leftist tactics" and built everything off that platform. Which then leads into right back into "if the Left does it, its evil" cuckery that created the cucked Right we have right now. Its amusing you made the point about how they should've done something 60 years ago, then go on to repeat the same arguments they made to each other that ended with them not doing it and leading to this mess.
Also you shouldn't complain about strawmen when your entire argument is based on caricatures of other people's beliefs where they act in absurd blind extremism because it suits your argument. The entire original point was about pacifism regarding karma (or God as that seems to be your preference) leading people to complete inaction or worse, which then somehow became "those younger Righties will lie, cheat and steal!"
There is in fact a valley of "what works" between "staying clean by never going outside" and "devolving into inhumanity for victory at any cost."
I made the point about "should've been done 60 years ago" in a hypothetical of if there is no God and all you desire is raw naked power. If you read it again in context, I'm saying that the left already made the choices to gain raw naked power a long time ago.
I say that shouldn't be the desire or goal of conservatives or moral people.
I'm using a hypothetical where even if there was no god, becoming the left to defeat the left is a losing battle anyways because they did what needs to be done FOR THAT GOAL, a goal that I do not think is a good goal, a long time ago. I'm saying even from an earthly standpoint, your options are become part of Babylon or resist it to the point of death.
Here's the goal I believe in.
"If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content."
"These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless." Revelation 14
11 And they overcame [the antichrist] because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.
Revelation 12
Those are the goals I believe in. That 60 years ago thing was saying if you want to have raw naked immoral power like the left, which is not something I recommend, then either join the left or build a time machine to somehow orchestrate the right getting that power.
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but forfeit his soul?"
That verse is why I said, even if there was a 100% guarantee of "winning" by those means, I would still choose "losing" because Christ has already overcome the world and you may gain some sort of temporal power that the left has, but at what cost? Do you really envy the left's power? I don't. The price they've paid for it is obvious. They are an embarrassment on every level. That's not a power I envy. If you have the power of Christ abiding in you, you have something far, far greater than all the governments in the world.
So let everyone else suffer endlessly because you want to just sit on your hands and let God fix everything for you. Its always amusing how you people, whose religion expressly prohibits suicide, just end up creating it with extra steps anyway. Because that's all you are advocating, pacifistic suicide for everyone so that you don't have to do anything.
That's far closer to cowardice than righteousness. Funny how the Bible verses people love to pull out always end up relieving them of having to do anything but sit back and not having to take action that might be hard or risky.
Its even more amusing because it reveals the pure selfishness and self-centeredness of their religious beliefs. That they put their own cleanliness of the soul above any morality or other person. Any action that might stain them is expressively forbidden, even if it means leaving all the innocents of the world to infinite suffering.
I'm sure Jesus is very proud of you. Afterall, he was king of never thinking of anyone but yourself and your reward.
Funny how you ignored everything else I said except the one directly calling you out for your retarded 60 year comment and still stand on this Strawman of "there is literally no other option besides 200% full commitment to being like the Left or not doing anything at all."
I understand its all you have that let's you parrot verses, but you need to do better than that if you want to proselytize your pacifistic suicide to people.