I can't even be mad about this anymore. She showed her intention almost a decade ago and has stuck to doing that ever since.
Right now its just a constant laugh fest at the fans who keep coming back because "no no, its good again! This one episode of one show had a single scene that was FANSERVICE!" only to then doom and gloom that they've been betrayed again when it returns to norm.
That guy going through bargain bin outlet stores showing the mountains of unsold Star Wars merchandise at rock-bottom prices is more entertaining than Star Wars itself these days.
Unfortunately, the one thing that is rarely shown is the Baby Yoda merch. Because that alone has probably pushed off the destruction of the franchise by over a decade.
Showing that childless women are in fact that easy to pander to.
A few years back I went into the city to check out a food truck. While I was there I saw this lady with a baby in a baby swaddle. I looked a little closer and it was a baby yoda I kid you not. I started talking loudly about it to my friend questioning the sanity of the world while in the line.
I saw the thing I had previously seen in another thing! Then I clapped! Then my wife's boyfriend let me out of the shed for 5 minutes of of fresh air! Today ruled!
Doctor Who is seemingly doing a lot better about it. After bowtie bitch left all the fans I used to know just stopped fucking talking about it, and its now a fraction of what it once was.
If it wasn't a cultural cornerstone for the British I doubt it would even be allowed to continue with how little anyone watches it.
Yea they are rivaling Star Wars with the “run off your audience” strategy. I never thought I’d see the day when I’d have zero interest in Dr Who but here we are. I do plan to binge classic who because outside of my favorite Doctor (Baker) I need to catch up on a lot of it
Diversity of identity necessarily creates diversity of ideas
This is only possible if ideas are inherent to identities
But some ideas are clearly better than others
So then some identities are better than others
Case in point: just as the cultural Marxists introduce all of this feminism and diversity into Star Wars, they then immediately decide to explore moral relativism and power dynamics within the show’s universe. We are told explicitly that these new demographics didn’t like the old storytelling, which was simply the hero’s journey. So the appropriate conclusion is that adding the female and minority perspectives to media makes it worse. Because those identities are worse.
Sidebar: the strength of a brand can be measured in the length of time and amount of media required to scuttle it. By these metrics, Star Wars truly was the most valuable property in all of entertainment. It has taken dozens of shows and movies, over decades of production, to destroy the value of this IP. Imagine how much money they could have made if they’d simply put non-feminists in charge. They probably flushed 10+ billion dollars down the toilet.
They probably flushed 10+ billion dollars down the toilet.
Easily. Movies, shows, kids animated shows, comics, books, you name it. They could have simply adapted the EU novels (properly) and would have had enough material to last decades without having to think much at all.
DC made a number of good non canon animated movie. If I was Disney knowing that there was a streaming service planned I’d be cranking out animated EU adaptations
I’m honestly glad what happened with Star Wars and Star Trek. Now I don’t have to care about those properties anymore. I don’t even get upset anymore because I’m so apathetic towards the properties.
The bright side is it makes it easier to recommend Babylon 5 to people since I think it’s 100x better anyway. Londo and G’Kar are probably the best sci fi characters ever and the actors made them believable and sympathetic.
Supposedly JMS is/was working on this abortion. The original show was great and done right the first time. We don’t need a retelling of Sheridan’s story or the Shadow War. I’m not really worried about it being woke as much as the Marvelification of the story. B5 worked because it was a character driven show and all the characters were complex and showed growth from Season 1 to 5.
In a from-the-ground-up reboot of the original series, John Sheridan, an Earthforce officer with a mysterious background, is assigned to Babylon 5, a five-mile-long space station in neutral space, a port of call for travelers, smugglers, corporate explorers and alien diplomats at a time of uneasy peace and the constant threat of war. His arrival triggers a destiny beyond anything he could have imagined, as an exploratory Earth company accidentally triggers a conflict with a civilization a million years ahead of us, putting Sheridan and the rest of the B5 crew in the line of fire as the last, best hope for the survival of the human race.
But in the current environment(never mind the monstrous shoes they'd have to fill for some characters - Londo and G'kar? Good fucking luck there), I can only hope it never sees the light of day.
...and for the record, I'm still salty as fuck that Crusade was canceled.
It's still dead in the water, last I heard. WB doesn't seem interested in taking any risks while it continues attempting to plug its financial holes.
Not that they're really doing anything smart with their approach. They've been cancelling good shit and bad shit alike, and try to pick up the slack with shitty cheap reality show-tier shows and the occasional DEI dip.
Yeah, maybe not too popular, but my love for Star Wars disappeared the minute I saw the very first preview of Force Awakens. I remember my childish excitement fading away and thinking "welp, there goes another one" and pretty much wrote the whole thing off. I do recall being semi-interested in the black trooper's deprogramming that was implied in the preview (obviously they skipped all that to focus more on Mary Sue fucking around in the desert and slapping male helping hands away like a grrlboss should).
I eventually did watch it because some friends had it on in their house while I was staying over and I wasn't into it at all, except maybe the nostalgia-berries with the original cast (that weren't ever put in the same scene).
The Star Trek "soft" reboot films prepared me, somewhat, for how other franchises would be rebooted and ruined. Granted, I had no way of predicting just how badly they'd fuck it up.
Yeah those disappointed me when I realized that it was a soft reboot with an alternate timeline. I didn't even know that going in and was annoyed at the laziness of the writing. Who wants to do all that research and keep it consistent when they can just give us a time travel scheme so they can just make shit up...
Well, you were more perceptive than me. I was over the moon at the visual innovations of blockbuster setpieces (Star Destroyer wreck, X-wing scenes) and thought the way the trailer was structured proved that JJ understood the spirit of Star Wars. By the time I walked out of the theater I had already realized I would have to cover up my disappointment and confusion in front of friends. Then the horror of it sunk in pretty quickly after that.
For me it was the moment Leia did the Mary Poppins in Space. Only reason I didn’t walk out was I had taken my son to see it. He was 7 and was just having a good time being at the movie theater in general so I didn’t want to ruin his fun.
Alan NG (guy that does film threat with Chris Gore said there is a last Jedi type moment that will drive off remaining pre Disney fans). EU Books and comics around the prequels/old republic are a much better use of your time. At least she did admit that Star Wars is a majority male fanbase
I'm so tired of "straight," "male," "white," and the like being always portrayed as a bad thing. While they scream about inclusion and diversity, no less.
Nothing wrong with a fanbase being male. It doesn't need fixing.
Nothing wrong with a country being white. It doesn't need fixing.
I remember on a sci-fi forum when I used to frequent them someone used the “same old boring white make protagonist” line. I simply asked if they have ever noticed who actually reads sci fi books? Or who is the main demographic?
Based on the quality of modern entertainment media, it is self evident that straight white and/or Asian men are necessary for good content. It’s really a massive own goal, when you think about it. They replaced straight white men both behind and in front of the camera, and now almost everything sucks? Weird!
True. Along with Star Wars, comics, and other hobbies have been really working hard to gaslight everyone into thinking that there are waves and waves of women who want to get into the hobby but are being stopped
Everytime I hear some fake geek girl who says “I tried to read comics but some creepy guy quizzed me and made me uncomfortable” or “women are oppressed in the gaming world”. I think about how my friends and I loved it when we met a girl who was legit into nerd stuff. To this day if I met a woman who loved Skyrim I would propose on the spot
I'm more surprised you haven't found a girl who loves Skyrim somehow. I know one who still plays it probably monthly to this day, and most of the DnD type girls I've known played it back in the day.
Also any girl who is legit into nerd shit will blow up any group of friends, because the sudden rush of power from having 3+ nerds simpin for her will turn her into a monster. Tale as old as time.
Had a Left 4 Dead group that ended up revolving around this one chick. She wasn't exactly a monster or extra controlling, but she definitely didn't shy away from trying to get her way when the group was discussing what to play.
Sadly, I've found that nerdy chicks, more-so these days, can be a double edged sword. Some of them are remarkably deranged and drink any kind of "kool-aid" they come across.
I've said it before, but this is what normal people do. You don't think people are that interested in the weather, do you? It's neutral ground where you can strike up a conversation with a stranger without either of you being out of your element.
"I totally love thing!"
"Oh, Me too. Who was your favorite character? I really liked John's arc."
"WHY ARE YOU INTERROGATING ME. IS IT JUST BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN?!
I'M A REAL FAN YOU KNOW?! I'M GOING TO TELL TIKTOK ABOUT THIS!"
Well they usually over exaggerate when I’m sure what happened was that she was wearing a super hero shirt (like when MCU was popular) and a guy she found unattractive probably asked what comics she liked
Over exaggeration is the norm I guess when the real story is almost certain to be tame or mundane. Not just something chicks do, but chicks tend to tell more stories to other people about the goings-on in their personal lives.
Yeah one of the selling points of my last relationship was that she admitted she was into 80s guy movies like Scarface. Didn't want anything about them changed, just enjoyed the hell out of them as presented. She probaby triggered feminists more than any evil white male they envision hiding under their bed.
I'm genuinely surprised she hasn't been fired by now. Her mismanagement of staw wars is honestly so catastrophically and comically bad that its going to end up in history books.
I can't even be mad about this anymore. She showed her intention almost a decade ago and has stuck to doing that ever since.
Right now its just a constant laugh fest at the fans who keep coming back because "no no, its good again! This one episode of one show had a single scene that was FANSERVICE!" only to then doom and gloom that they've been betrayed again when it returns to norm.
That guy going through bargain bin outlet stores showing the mountains of unsold Star Wars merchandise at rock-bottom prices is more entertaining than Star Wars itself these days.
Unfortunately, the one thing that is rarely shown is the Baby Yoda merch. Because that alone has probably pushed off the destruction of the franchise by over a decade.
Showing that childless women are in fact that easy to pander to.
It it's pretty hilarious how childless women are all over fake babies like pets and toys.
It's not hilarious so much as it is sad and revolting.
Knew a chick who had like a basket full of such things. Was honestly a bit horrific in a way.
The fur-baby phenomenon is baffling to me. Don't get me wrong, I like pets, but there's no instance where I cross the line between children and pets.
A few years back I went into the city to check out a food truck. While I was there I saw this lady with a baby in a baby swaddle. I looked a little closer and it was a baby yoda I kid you not. I started talking loudly about it to my friend questioning the sanity of the world while in the line.
Watching hours long critiques of the sequel movies/shows is vastly more entertaining than the sequels/shows themselves.
I think youtube critics would have to apply for food stamps if Disney stopped making garbage content for them to make fun of.
I saw the thing I had previously seen in another thing! Then I clapped! Then my wife's boyfriend let me out of the shed for 5 minutes of of fresh air! Today ruled!
But enough about all the other shows I can think of. Doctor Who...
Doctor Who is seemingly doing a lot better about it. After bowtie bitch left all the fans I used to know just stopped fucking talking about it, and its now a fraction of what it once was.
If it wasn't a cultural cornerstone for the British I doubt it would even be allowed to continue with how little anyone watches it.
Yea they are rivaling Star Wars with the “run off your audience” strategy. I never thought I’d see the day when I’d have zero interest in Dr Who but here we are. I do plan to binge classic who because outside of my favorite Doctor (Baker) I need to catch up on a lot of it
Diversity of identity necessarily creates diversity of ideas
This is only possible if ideas are inherent to identities
But some ideas are clearly better than others
So then some identities are better than others
Case in point: just as the cultural Marxists introduce all of this feminism and diversity into Star Wars, they then immediately decide to explore moral relativism and power dynamics within the show’s universe. We are told explicitly that these new demographics didn’t like the old storytelling, which was simply the hero’s journey. So the appropriate conclusion is that adding the female and minority perspectives to media makes it worse. Because those identities are worse.
Sidebar: the strength of a brand can be measured in the length of time and amount of media required to scuttle it. By these metrics, Star Wars truly was the most valuable property in all of entertainment. It has taken dozens of shows and movies, over decades of production, to destroy the value of this IP. Imagine how much money they could have made if they’d simply put non-feminists in charge. They probably flushed 10+ billion dollars down the toilet.
Easily. Movies, shows, kids animated shows, comics, books, you name it. They could have simply adapted the EU novels (properly) and would have had enough material to last decades without having to think much at all.
DC made a number of good non canon animated movie. If I was Disney knowing that there was a streaming service planned I’d be cranking out animated EU adaptations
I’m honestly glad what happened with Star Wars and Star Trek. Now I don’t have to care about those properties anymore. I don’t even get upset anymore because I’m so apathetic towards the properties.
The bright side is it makes it easier to recommend Babylon 5 to people since I think it’s 100x better anyway. Londo and G’Kar are probably the best sci fi characters ever and the actors made them believable and sympathetic.
Let’s hope they don’t remake Babylon 5
Supposedly JMS is/was working on this abortion. The original show was great and done right the first time. We don’t need a retelling of Sheridan’s story or the Shadow War. I’m not really worried about it being woke as much as the Marvelification of the story. B5 worked because it was a character driven show and all the characters were complex and showed growth from Season 1 to 5.
Leave it alone!
I can see how this might have been a good thing.
Once.
But in the current environment(never mind the monstrous shoes they'd have to fill for some characters - Londo and G'kar? Good fucking luck there), I can only hope it never sees the light of day.
...and for the record, I'm still salty as fuck that Crusade was canceled.
*subtly hides Back to the Future DVDs and posters
If they ever redid Back to the Future it would be a black or Hispanic girl and the 80s and 90s would be portrayed as extremely racist
It's still dead in the water, last I heard. WB doesn't seem interested in taking any risks while it continues attempting to plug its financial holes.
Not that they're really doing anything smart with their approach. They've been cancelling good shit and bad shit alike, and try to pick up the slack with shitty cheap reality show-tier shows and the occasional DEI dip.
Yeah, maybe not too popular, but my love for Star Wars disappeared the minute I saw the very first preview of Force Awakens. I remember my childish excitement fading away and thinking "welp, there goes another one" and pretty much wrote the whole thing off. I do recall being semi-interested in the black trooper's deprogramming that was implied in the preview (obviously they skipped all that to focus more on Mary Sue fucking around in the desert and slapping male helping hands away like a grrlboss should).
I eventually did watch it because some friends had it on in their house while I was staying over and I wasn't into it at all, except maybe the nostalgia-berries with the original cast (that weren't ever put in the same scene).
The Star Trek "soft" reboot films prepared me, somewhat, for how other franchises would be rebooted and ruined. Granted, I had no way of predicting just how badly they'd fuck it up.
Yeah those disappointed me when I realized that it was a soft reboot with an alternate timeline. I didn't even know that going in and was annoyed at the laziness of the writing. Who wants to do all that research and keep it consistent when they can just give us a time travel scheme so they can just make shit up...
Well, you were more perceptive than me. I was over the moon at the visual innovations of blockbuster setpieces (Star Destroyer wreck, X-wing scenes) and thought the way the trailer was structured proved that JJ understood the spirit of Star Wars. By the time I walked out of the theater I had already realized I would have to cover up my disappointment and confusion in front of friends. Then the horror of it sunk in pretty quickly after that.
For me it was the moment Leia did the Mary Poppins in Space. Only reason I didn’t walk out was I had taken my son to see it. He was 7 and was just having a good time being at the movie theater in general so I didn’t want to ruin his fun.
Vir says hi, Mr Morden. He's waving at you while wiggling his fingers
We shouldn't celebrate the malicious destruction of cultural icons by our enemies.
Alan NG (guy that does film threat with Chris Gore said there is a last Jedi type moment that will drive off remaining pre Disney fans). EU Books and comics around the prequels/old republic are a much better use of your time. At least she did admit that Star Wars is a majority male fanbase
Yes she did. But she used it as a bad thing, so it's a good news/bad news type of deal
I'm so tired of "straight," "male," "white," and the like being always portrayed as a bad thing. While they scream about inclusion and diversity, no less.
Nothing wrong with a fanbase being male. It doesn't need fixing.
Nothing wrong with a country being white. It doesn't need fixing.
Fuck. Off. Locusts.
I remember on a sci-fi forum when I used to frequent them someone used the “same old boring white make protagonist” line. I simply asked if they have ever noticed who actually reads sci fi books? Or who is the main demographic?
Male and pale is stale, buddy.
(Yes, that is apparently a phrase going around Hollywood)
Just a reminder that you don’t hate Hollywood enough
Based on the quality of modern entertainment media, it is self evident that straight white and/or Asian men are necessary for good content. It’s really a massive own goal, when you think about it. They replaced straight white men both behind and in front of the camera, and now almost everything sucks? Weird!
True. Along with Star Wars, comics, and other hobbies have been really working hard to gaslight everyone into thinking that there are waves and waves of women who want to get into the hobby but are being stopped
It’s an ideological incursion. Nothing else makes sense. They are happy to destroy it all.
We all formed violent mobs of picket lines at the entrance of every nerdy hobby.
Everytime I hear some fake geek girl who says “I tried to read comics but some creepy guy quizzed me and made me uncomfortable” or “women are oppressed in the gaming world”. I think about how my friends and I loved it when we met a girl who was legit into nerd stuff. To this day if I met a woman who loved Skyrim I would propose on the spot
I'm more surprised you haven't found a girl who loves Skyrim somehow. I know one who still plays it probably monthly to this day, and most of the DnD type girls I've known played it back in the day.
Also any girl who is legit into nerd shit will blow up any group of friends, because the sudden rush of power from having 3+ nerds simpin for her will turn her into a monster. Tale as old as time.
I’ve heard of that phenomenon. Like one time at the comic book store a girl came in and we looked like fools treating her like royalty
Its common across all nerd shit.
There is a reason why probably 95% of all guilds in any game end over a woman.
Had a Left 4 Dead group that ended up revolving around this one chick. She wasn't exactly a monster or extra controlling, but she definitely didn't shy away from trying to get her way when the group was discussing what to play.
Sadly, I've found that nerdy chicks, more-so these days, can be a double edged sword. Some of them are remarkably deranged and drink any kind of "kool-aid" they come across.
I've said it before, but this is what normal people do. You don't think people are that interested in the weather, do you? It's neutral ground where you can strike up a conversation with a stranger without either of you being out of your element.
It's rarely even "quizzing." It's more like:
"I totally love thing!"
"Oh, Me too. Who was your favorite character? I really liked John's arc."
"WHY ARE YOU INTERROGATING ME. IS IT JUST BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN?! I'M A REAL FAN YOU KNOW?! I'M GOING TO TELL TIKTOK ABOUT THIS!"
Well they usually over exaggerate when I’m sure what happened was that she was wearing a super hero shirt (like when MCU was popular) and a guy she found unattractive probably asked what comics she liked
Over exaggeration is the norm I guess when the real story is almost certain to be tame or mundane. Not just something chicks do, but chicks tend to tell more stories to other people about the goings-on in their personal lives.
Yeah one of the selling points of my last relationship was that she admitted she was into 80s guy movies like Scarface. Didn't want anything about them changed, just enjoyed the hell out of them as presented. She probaby triggered feminists more than any evil white male they envision hiding under their bed.
Cool! Smart lady
Outrage bait and feminist colonization/vandalization.
So yet again copying existing work? The Mortis arc did this already in The Clone Wars cgi cartoon years ago with Father, Son, and Daughter.
She really is a talentless hack.
TIL by scrolling thru the link article, that George Lucas is an oil driller.
I'm genuinely surprised she hasn't been fired by now. Her mismanagement of staw wars is honestly so catastrophically and comically bad that its going to end up in history books.