I thought it was a bit ridiculous when I saw a suggestion of me becoming a mod but with the brigading spammers because for the most part I'm very hands off. With summer holidays right around the corner and no lifers coming out of woodwork along with us being one user away from having child porn spammed I think someone needs to step in. Otherwise potentially the whole site is going to get nuked because I've seen this behaviour before back on reddit. Whoever these brigaders really are seem to be deliberately posting gradually worse content and 'views' up to try and fuck with everyone and it's much more obvious now who it is.
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Yes just get someone who's been on here forever and doesn't ask for it.
That's generally the right approach.
But it's also hard for obviously absentee mods to even notice the trouble free long-term users.
At some point some of the other regular users have to start naming names to make choices.
I get the theory.
But how does one get selected as a candidate without applying or volunteering?
Are we instituting a lottery or a draft?
And that is the central problem of governance.
Generally, it can start by people nominating others they think would make a decent choice. I could think of a few names off the top of my head.
Something else to consider is that, if the site works the way I think it does, Dom should be able to maintain admin in the event of an emergency situation.
That actually makes sense and is an avenue I hadn't considered.
Of course, such a nomination process could be easily gamed as well.
It certainly can be. And there's always a possibility that a mole or sleeper agent could slip through the cracks, and/or that Dom could disappear and we'd be left without a failsafe.
I honestly don't know how to best tackle the whole quandary though. A good majority of the reason this community's managed to survive this well and for so long is because of the fairly hands-off approach, with fairly minimal rules and restrictions.
Unfortunately, at the same time, all it takes is one or two really motivated and persistent buggers to muck things up. And that can apply to our recent pests as well as to any potential new moderators.
Maybe before making any major changes we should see if there's any unexplored measures we can take to properly silence and/or remove those pests indefinitely. Explore options with Scored admins, or possibly some automated/scripted moderator tools if that's feasible with this site's API.
Thats how we tried doing it on c/gaming after the mod threw a fit and left. Too bad the admins completely ignored the nomination threads.
Lottery for comment removing powers. Open mod log easily accessible.
Yep. Possibly the only cool and effective forum mods I ever knew didn't even have that strong interest in the subject matter of the forum, nor being a mod at all. Was just a cool, talented, intelligent and funny dude.
Plus it's exhausting, thankless work that requires a certain level of autism if the traffic is high enough, and if you have a life and actual responsibilities then it's even less likely that you would bother with such a thing. I'd much rather be enjoying my mediums of choice with my limited free time.
I was a chat server owner for a year and even that was exhausting and tedious even though there wasn't that much to moderate since I chose the community myself.
I'm not begging I'm just convinced the brigaders are going to escalate to child porn shit or pedo posting and don't want to see that spammed all over the place, other communities should be warned as well I think.
There is no brigade, just one pedo who's been creating alts for literally years and has apparently decided to start targeting lightly moderated boards.
The only worse choice would be Antonio.
I actually thought Antonio was a mod for a while because of kia2 reddit
I would put them at the same level of terrible idea. No Europeans should be mods here. They all cucked out to globohomo in their own countries. I have no doubt they would do the same here.
At least Lethn accepts the truth about women. His unpopularity with a significant portion of the community makes him a poor choice, but he's a massive improvement of Antonio or the current faggot.
Lethn can't take a hint, let alone a mod position. And he would just be DoM mark II, but dumber.
I can't argue with that. I still vote none of the above.
OP is Jewish and so is Antonio
Stop calling Semites "European" they ain't White and they only want to censor goyim and not the (((pedopajeet)))
Maybe Domitus is letting insurgent run wild so he'll have a "valid"excuse to put a jew in the janny position
I haven't seen proof that either OP or Antonio are Jewish, so I didn't want to break rule 15 by assuming.
That last part is a joke, just like our mod who came up with the stupid rules.
Antonio is Jewish https://archive.md/XwWDZ
And im 90% sure OP is jewish too . He's a gigantic JIDF at any rate.
lol
That explains a lot about Antonio's advocacy for certain American politicians. Thanks for the info.
There was a thread on the conpro a few days ago, Domitus admitted everything in one comment saying that "notsees want kill his friends and family for being jews"
Antonio too, said he's staunchly pro israel and fumbled the response when asked if he's a jew
Search KIA2 on conpro and you'll find the thread
I was the user Dom accused of wanting to kill his family, so I am well aware. I wouldn't be surprised if Lethn or Antonio are also Jews. I just haven't seen anything that verifies it.
But I was mostly only responding so I could make the joke that accusing someone of being a Jew is a particularly egregious identity based slur.
Edit: someone posted a comment from Antonio where he outs himself, so now I have seen proof for him.
I would be very surprised if Lethn was Jewish. I'll leave it at that lol.
Ye shall know them by their fruits
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And you would, not because I'm jewish, but because you are Leftists, and you would kill as many whites as you would jews, and you would consider it necessary to handle "Race Traitors".
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A) I'm white, B) I was thinking the same thing about you. Sure seems like a pressure campaign to change the mod structure to favor a faction on the eve of an American election.
It does seem rather odd that insurgent (the pedo "pajeet") unironically admit he's doing this "change the mods" in this board
Like he actually admitted it and it would make zero sense for him to do so
Maybe JIDF/Cointelpro thinks you're not banning enough goyim so they send an agent provocateur to make you look like you're not doing a good job, and thus force you to elect one of Kosher mods who's going to clamp down on free speech?
This was esp apparent with insurgent himself propping one of those "we need a new mod" threads
My advice to you--don't add any new mods, for they seek to usurp this board
As you being White, What kind of cheese do you put on a Endive Salad?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the goal was to ban more of you since you guys were the original targets. You guys getting autistically stuck in a flame war, driving up engagement and comment numbers, which spreads the flame war and will inevitably get you banned. Since you're inevitably going to screech about jewish racial conspiracies, despite being attacked by Indians, it's a guaranteed loss.
Graph also noticed, correctly, that several of the brigands are impersonating WN and NatSoc talking points, and arguing with their own accounts.
It looks to me that you're getting set up. I still remember those of you that unironically support Patriot Front, so it's clear that you're very easily able to be manipulated.
Anyways, I don't know what an Endive Salad is. But when I do eat salad, it's got cranberries, pecans, and grilled chicken.
This clown wants to be the KIA2 version of Tommy Robinson. Bitching about the muslim immigrants in his Yorkshit village, but ignoring the people who brought them there, and everywhere else.
Well, well, well...
It all falls into place...
I don't think Dom is a bad mod excluding his attendance recently. Does he have a wide or narrow strike zone for some, sure but he's fairly consistent about his "strike zone." You can plan it accordingly.
His being absent causes him to depend on people sending reports and the word of people he trust to run things.
To the folks saying you only want to talk about gaming, well there's a reason you're here and not on KIA reddit. KIA2 on reddit was started to expand outward from gaming to general media.
The idea of you being a mod is so repugnant I made this account just to vote down the idea.
No.
I can think of one or two users who would probably be decent mods.
That is why I would never wish it on them.
Isn't there an automod or something similar which could hoover up new accounts which get reported repeatedly?
That's the thing the brigaders are abusing reports now so they'll use that to boot off anyone they don't like. Even dom was noticing people false flagging on topic posts as 'spam'. At the rate we're going it's just going to turn into another conpro community filled with spergs posting about Israel and jews constantly even though it's supposed to be a gaming community.
now you are showing your true reasons for wanting the mod position
It's not some big reveal, you guys are spamming cunts.
lol this isn't some big reveal, you guys are spamming cunts and no one likes you.
As i said to the other guy. You JIDF are the minority here
'j00s'
"Muh gaming community" "muh brigades", these arguments seem familiar somehow. Fairly sure they were the reasons given on half-KiA for many of the gay mod abuses. Whiners on Reddit KiA2 had the exact same complaints.
Sometimes I wonder if you're an Imp alt (though it would be remarkable self control for Imp to maintain the facade for so long).
Anyway, only first wavers should be mods. Kienan, Assassin or even m0r1arty would be my vote.
Those three would be fine by me as well and also Imp is clearly living rent free in your head.
I was thinking the automoderator could weigh users based on their time on the boards and upvotes for posts/threads they've taken part in.
It's not perfect but it will mean those looking to bork the boards will have to put more effort in and hard work puts off anyone when they're no returns on it.
I get your thinking but that's been tried before on reddit and it was a predictable disaster. Really you just need mods who are active and capable of pattern recognition and given how much the vote system is being shamelessly abused I'd love to do away with it entirely.
New mods generally always come with new reasons to hate on mods.
I think if the load can be taken by automoderation it stops power being abused by those seeking it in the first place.
I don't hate dom for the record at all, the guy clearly has stuff on his plate RL and even if it's not me there should be at least a couple reasonably active people who should take over dealing with the spam. The people sperging out on this thread are a great example of who needs to go because there are users who I barely recognise acting like they know me which is hilarious.
You are one of the most active users on here, and your hot button of calling people "ConPro spammers" is well-known. Have you considered that just because you don't recognize a username doesn't mean they don't recognize you? Because of how forums work, any active, consistent commenter will be read and recognized by more people than they regularly read and recognize in turn.
I think they're raising reasonable concerns, given the things you sometimes spin out over. Your inability to understand this criticism as anything other than a brigade of people who have no investment in the forum hating you personally, rather than taking issue with things you've said and what you think should happen to a space they participate in, only underscores their point.
The reason I bring it up often is If you don't believe me, check out the majority of every one of their post histories' the only thing they're here for is spamming about Jews. They're as bad as leftists, if you're not automatically hating on Jews and god forbid try talking about video games and anime for once, they'll immediately follow you around and hit you with spam downvotes and are clearly all coming from the same place. I'm not even convinced there's that many of them given how they always post with the same formatting among other things that are dead giveaways.
Other people? Not fussed by them, if they've got opinions about me that's fine and that's just life. However the MRA subreddit for example had a major problem with brigading feminists who would pull this sort of shit and you'd also get the MensLib types concern trolling. How did people find this out? Well the absolute arseholes would admit to trawling through /r/All looking for heavily upvoted threads to complain about.
On top of that the vote botting was hilarious, I did some experiments with mod permission and for some reason there was keyword bots running around doing 7 - 8 upvotes on each thread depending on what keywords I was using because I asked other users not to tinker with it so we could see. When it was something completely generic and random like "I am a potato" there would be 0 upvotes.
I have checked this out before programming wise and it's mindblowing, it's not even just me the conpro lot are targeting. Ironic they go on about Jew noticing because they hate it when people start noticing their own tactics and what they're up to tech wise. If it were feminists and leftists pulling this shit about white men constantly I'd ban them too some of the stuff I saw them posting about men in general on the MRA subreddit itself was pretty disgusting because they were shitting up threads about male domestic abuse victims.
I'm not against you on being put forward here. I'm just saying that new mods inevitably cause additional friction and any way to reduce that pressure is welcomed, particularly if it's automated and doesn't have ego involved.
Yeah I get where you're coming from with that, my argument is simply that something automated is way too open to abuse, it will get exploited, I've often proposed the internet as a whole should really do away with voting and ratings systems entirely. It's been an objective failure as an experiment.
You sound just like Dom. Why the hell would anybody here be in favor of trading one shill for another?
I would happily support you
The rare downvoted Smith1980 post.
Well you can’t win them all
Same, I'd also support you as well
Honestly I'd trust Smith far more than Lethn, Smith is even keeled and obviously principled, that's good for no drama or trouble. Lethn can be a little emotional and obviously has beef with some users.
Then again, I wouldn't wish that thankless job on such a nice guy either.
I'll own up to having a beef with some people, frankly they deserve it but that's just my opinion and I'm only human. I wouldn't ban someone just over that though of course that's not going to be enough to convince people but regardless of who gets picked we do need at least a couple of active mods here to show the sperging NPCs and shills that this isn't reddit and they can't come here and shit up everything.
If nothing else, it needs to be done soon, otherwise this community and really much of the site is going to be big time dead thanks to the spam.
If you promise to get rid of the stormfags sperging with jew posts you will get my vote.
KiA2 is like going to consume product. Nobody likes stormfaggots, keep these idiots contained in that board.
The ironic thing about you and the accounts like you is that you are the very thing you claim to hate, a single issue shill who shits up the board with inane garbage and ad hominems, whereas most (not all mind you) of the people you call “stormfags” are just normal people who have stopped filtering their real, informed opinions. It really doesn’t help your case to be a) so myopic and b) so poor at arguing for your understanding of the situations being discussed
They are people?!
Just as much as a zionist is
Neonazis are not human.
If that’s true than neither are zionists, they’re both ethnonationalists
Like I said, stormfags are not people. Zionism only means the return of jews to their historical lands, like the French wanting to return to France.
This is why I don't view stormfaggots as people, they are npcs who can't think.
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It's dehumanizing, but "being a stormfag" is an ideological position. It doesn't qualify as an Identity Group.
fuck off jew, you are the minority here.
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This doesn't do this.
I'd get rid of the spergers and NPCs but I won't ban just for having opinions even if I really don't like them. I agree with getting rid of the spammers in general though because they really are clogging up every thread, the second you block one of them the engagement is down to about three users and a couple of posts. That's how bad the spam has gotten and I think even the casual observers and people who don't necessarily like me all that much would agree.
Whoever gets the mod position has to deal with that problem otherwise the community is going to die due to the spam. I swear these guys are about as obnoxious as your average Turkish gamer.
most of what you call "sperging" is people stating too many facts you don't like you hear
Even the white nationalists on Gab know not to brigade other users and spam at them with zero prompting. It has nothing to do with your opinions and everything to do with your posting behaviour. I love how that's the line you always go with, no, you're a bunch of obnoxious turds who won't leave people alone and keep spamming everywhere. You click on your post own post history for example and it's literally j00s every five seconds, you're a spammer and an NPC.
If a person preaching about world peace came into my house and squatted there without my permission and shat all over the floor making a mess it would make anyone get annoyed, you know exactly what you're doing and this is the digital equivalent. You're basically digital squatters playing the victim.
Which is exactly what you are doing.
Lurk more newfag, you've only been here a year.
Yeah but he has his own sticky.
That makes him the most important poster here. Its why we need every little retarded thought that pops into his head as a blogpost.
Spamming would be doing want Imp did and posting like 10 posts a day and infinite thread long arguments all the time that people aren't interested in. Just because i talk about the same topic all the time that you happen to not like (but others on this board are perfectly fine with) doesn't mean i'm spamming. And its only obnoxious to you because you don't like people saying anything about your chosen tribe
Yeah that's exactly what you're doing.
You consistently fuck up other peoples threads with that crap, even the threads that are on topic gaming ones, stop lying. If you just stopped sperging every five seconds like imp no one would give a fuck.
i mention jews when there's a jew involved in the story but you just don't like to hear it.
How is Telia "spamming" other people's posts, talking about the jews, any different than you talking about yourself all the time?
I've been mostly going on about gaming and dev posting these days because of the amount of code I've been looking at so you know that's not true.
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Comment Approved: I don't see that here.
Based on the replies you have given, you get my vote.
The stormfags are really angry that their control of the board is being threatened.
says the jew that rages the moment they don't have full control over 100% of everything. "oy vey shut it down" is a meme for a reason.
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This is more of a personal attack.
Fuck off leftist.
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Comment Approved: As before, "stormfag" is not an identity category. It is an ideological position.