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Breast milk can expose babies to chemicals (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by Mpetey123 2 years ago by Mpetey123 +21 / -0
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– Adamrises 34 points 2 years ago +34 / -0

Ah yes, the CDC and the EPA. I'm sure these are completely neutral organizations that would never say things for duplicitous purposes like politics or business.

I don't doubt any of the things claimed here are possible or even a problem. But because of who is saying it I don't put much stock into it being a major problem and especially letting them present any solutions.

Especially as, the entire article is filled with scare words like "cancer-linked" to make you think these things are guaranteed death sentences but in reality are just vaguely sometimes related to sick people in ways we aren't willing to put our name on the line to say are for sure but certainly want your money to test and "treat."

Also the big lead is in the middle. The US isn't part of some Global Milk Monitor program and that's literally going to kill children. All of this is just to scare dumb people (the type who read Yahoo News) into trying to pressure us into joining another International Organization that Europe controls and letting them dictate basic facts of our life.

Again, all of this seems plausible as a problem but this article isn't about the problem. Its about scaring you with big words to let them take away your fear with Bigger Government that won't do a damn thing to solve the problem. All it will do is tell the majority of the world's women that they must pay huge dollars to buy "clean" milk or formula because theirs is so totally tainted with baddie bad chemicals.

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– ModsAreAIDS 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Yep. When I see an alphabet agency is behind news like this, I immediately disregard anything they have to say.

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– BandageBandolier 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

In this case it's pretty much only the journalists doing the globalist bootlicking, so far.

The whole article is weasel worded from top to bottom. The CDC isn't actually recommending changing anything, The Hill just took the factual statement that PFAs can be passed through breastmilk and decided to ignore the recommendation to keep breastfeeding because it's still superior.

Likewise they had to cut out a tiny contextless quote from the doctor interviewed to push their propaganda. "And I wouldn't blame them" I.E "People might hear about these PFAs and be worried, and I wouldn't blame them, but the risk is minimal and we have decades of data showing that breastfeeding is still far more likely to give you a healthier baby than formula"

Also note the weasel wording "in mothers exposed to PFA", in a normal household your only likely exposure to PFAs is from non-stick cooking utensils surfaces like Teflon. They don't leech out but if you physically scratch the surface off and ingest it you could be exposed. So almost no-one meets that high levels of exposure qualifier anyway, except retards who keep ruining their pots and eating the flakes.

That's not to say we don't have a bunch of bullshit exposure to harmful substances that you should watch out for with your children. But replacing breast milk with some industrially manufactured inferior artificial substitute is absolutely not the way to avoid that. Even specifically from PFAs, I bet the odds of them using a non-stick surface in the manufacturing of formula is pretty high and it only takes one unlucky surface scratch to expose your child to more PFAs than they could ever get from milk.

You can never hate mainstream journalists enough. Not even close.

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– Adamrises 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

But replacing breast milk with some industrially manufactured inferior artificial substitute is absolutely not the way to avoid that.

I think they've already conceded on that battle, because this article seems to be more pushing for a "globally controlled and monitored milk bank."

As in, you have to pay for other women's milk that has been "Tested and Approved," that you will never know what they've leaked into it.

Which is probably still better than purely formula, but I still have zero trust in it whatsoever.

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– BandageBandolier 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think what they're talking there was maintaining a bank of small samples taken from the populace over time so that chemical tests and other research can easily be retroactively performed. That whole section is about monitoring PFA levels in the general populace.

I don't think an actual human milk bank for consumer use would be physically possible, volume wise they would need to be milking a bunch of women like actual dairy cattle. And logistics wise the spoil time on breast milk for newborns is measured in hours at room temp and only 1 week to 1 month when frozen.

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– Adamrises 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

volume wise they would need to be milking a bunch of women like actual dairy cattle

Don't give them any ideas.

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– SoctaticMethod1 27 points 2 years ago +27 / -0

Yes....if the mom is a druggy

So don't be a druggy, most mothers refuse to drink alcohol till their baby stops breastfeeding, least you could do is not shoot up all the time. They say 'forever chemicals' are the problem....then we're all fucked regardless!

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– Daucus9 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

...Did you read the article? They're talking about chemicals that have polluted the environment, not chemicals from booze and narcotics. They're talking about chemicals usually linked to industrial areas but they're now being detected in everyday things. Some might even be in drinking water so people going "oh I'll just give my baby formula instead" isn't a solution. And at this point there is so little information about the long-term effects of these chemicals on infants, while knowing the significant long term health benefits breast milk is to infants, that even contaminant-free formula might still be worse for a baby.

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– SoctaticMethod1 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

Yeah I said the 'forever chemicals' such as industrial byproducts, that's also why I said

we're all fucked regardless

Forget just breastfeeding or long term effects to kids, if that shit is so pervasive in the water table then why the fuck are we focused on this part!? Why are we going 'you might not want to breastfeed' not starting a reclamation of a contaminated area as it sounds like they fucked up and turned perfectly good water into the River Ganges

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– RaisingPhoenix 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Because baby formula makes bank, and they want more dosh.

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– ModsAreAIDS 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

And the solution just happens to be giving the government even more control over our lives. I'll pass. I would rather have cancer.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I acknowledge it may be the case that breast milk may be contaminated and that some sort of formula may be a preferable alternative.

When the formula shortages were going on about a year ago I did a simple search for a homemade baby formula out of simple curiosity (I had no direct need for this information since I didn't know anyone with a baby). All I came up with was a WHO recipe for "emergency formula (not to be given for longer than a month)" and a bunch of medical universities which flat out stated "there is no safe homemade baby formula; you must buy FDA approved formula (for all the good that does because you can't actually buy FDA approved formula right now)."

But you wouldn't be asking the question if you didn't have a need for an answer to this question. And it is an answerable question, otherwise commercial baby formulas couldn't exist. So where are the "medical experts" with the courage to provide an answer? As many issues I have with the WHO, at least they provided an answer with the caveat to not use it long-term.

Wouldn't it be nice if the people most qualified to give an answer would actually do so?

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– BandageBandolier 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Just one of the problems with trying to make home made baby formula is that newborns need a very specific, narrow balance of electrolytes. They're not nearly as capable of managing fluctuations as even a 6 month old, it's also why they don't recommend giving them more than a few sips of pure water until they're older. The range is narrow enough that even careful measuring isn't going to be reliable enough to be considered "safe". You'll need accurate chemical analysis on the final product to confirm, which you just can't replicate at home.

Plus there's a whole slew of other micronutrients and sterilization concerns to make something that isn't slightly risky. There is no "safe" way through a shortage if you don't have breast milk, only lesser risks. Just necause newborns are fragile as fuck in some ways and the whole period is inherently risky.

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– SomeRando 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Yeah, unless you got jabbed with the science juice - then it's all good to breastfeed your baby.

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– deleted 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

There’s definitely a point where I just don’t care. Do what I can to avoid certain processed food, I really prefer glass, etc. A lot of that is just preference anyway, some things are just inherently nicer. I refuse to hide inside afraid the world is going to kill me. That’s far worse.

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– Justalurker69420 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

You can't just choose to stop breastfeeding your child. They need connection with the mother as much as the nourishment it provides. This and articles like this are purely fearporn created to further demoralize women and mothers, convincing more to not have kids in the first place.

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– Daucus9 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The article itself discusses this, that since this is new information but very little data has been collected on the extent of the contamination or how it affects infants. So it concludes that until more information is obtained, due to the known benefits of breast milk it's better to keep breastfeeding a baby.

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– Justalurker69420 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Which again just leads me to the fearporn conclusion

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– I_Bent_My_Wookiee 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The Big Similac Industry™ had no influence in this article...

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– Guy_Incognito76 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Fact 1: When I had my first and second kids, people I worked for (a specific job with exclusively rich clients) all expressed shock and amazement that we were breastfeeding our kid. Every single rich person, male or female, viewed it as a massive waste of time and energy and not in any way worth it.

Fact 2: First and second kids were born, the hospital stressed the importance of breastfeeding over all else. Even where the first kid was really difficult to breastfeed for various reasons, the hospital insisted we tough it out and keep trying rather than resort to formula.

Fact 3: Kid 3 however was told after 18 hours to STOP FEEDING OUR BABY and insisted breastfeeding was somehow dangerous. This was never substantiated with any evidence or facts. This hospital then proceeded to medical kidnap and torture our child for the tune of $10k per day. It only stopped when I called a lawyer.

Kids 1 and 2 were pre-covid. I think some directive went out after Covid telling hospitals to stop breastfeeding. There were also those big formula plants that shut down, making formula hella expensive. Draw whatever conclusions you want but those seem to be the facts.

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– undecidedmask2 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Babies should only drink artificial milk. Breast milk promotes White supremacy.

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– BrainJuice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Weren't we just hearing about how trans MtF breastmilk was so safe despite the metric ton of hormones they're on? Wonder how that plays into this news lol.

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– Mpetey123 [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Right, soon we will hear the tranny milk is superior to natural vagina havers or whatever they call women now milk.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I hear one of those chemicals is di-hydrogen oxide.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is why they need Nido, not Breast Milk.

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– Socalwackjob 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This really explains the fucked up state of the west overall and it's going to get worse.

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