We've heard A LOT this year (and it's only been a month!), we may need to conscript for a war with Russia! Not enough people are joining the military so we may need to look at conscription! If you don't give your mortgage to Ukraine we may need to conscript you and those you love...
In my opinion, it's all bullshit fear mongering. The last time America did conscription during Vietnam, It caused a LOT of 'friendly fire' incidents against officers or those in higher ranks above the conscripted while the loss of Vietnam basically made conscripting unwilling Americans political suicide. Since then the normies are either too jaded to be patriotic to the elites under the guise of 'national defense' to be conscripted or too weak that they'll likely turn on anyone trying to force them to fight so send them to war against Russia....they'll just mass surrender to the Russians giving them all their equipment too.
Just feels like an extremely desperate play by wielding conscription as a threat as then everyone realises there currently isn't enough military TO conscript the current populations and even then how many of them are loyal enough to the elites to conscript civilians?
No one would consider letting themselves be conscripted for a war in a foreign land. Home being invaded might be a different story, and at that point, there's much better options... not to mention the fact that we are being invaded as we speak.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's an increase in militas over military at this point given you need more force to protect the homeland.
The rebirth of the Committee of Public Safety and Regulators groups has been a thing for a decade. They just have to be careful, lest the glowies show up.
You have to remember that they are very much up their own ass and they will push these boundaries. They are like a child bully who has never been popped in the nose and I think the time is coming where they will be reminded that it isn't us who serves them.
I personally don't think they have the right to say or enforce anything, since they won't protect the border.
I would say that's a very American centric view but then EVERY western country ain't protecting it's fucking borders.
I'm enjoying the Farmer protests in Europe as that's the response for trying to destroy livelihoods in an industry, imagine the response you telling the masses to die in a foriegn shithole.
Indeed.
Well the whole "It isn't what your country can do for you..." sentiment falls short these days, because what we do for it seems to get us flooded with welfare niggers and fills the coffers of people who want to send us to meat grinders for their business partners and Israel. If I recall correctly, there is a clause in the constitution that addresses this specifically - that if they do not enforce the border that it's time for guillotines. Paraphrasing of course.
As far as I am concerned - no border, no conscription. They can kick rocks.
Madame Guillontine Madame Guillontine
There’s the bully that would get popped in the nose and straighten themselves out, then there’s the bully that would straight up stab you the next time he saw you.
Governments are always the latter.
He'd be all smiley and buddy-buddy for a bit, you gotta be prepared for that knife.
When white men don’t report for the draft to fight another (((bankers’))) war, the US government might turn to recruiting illegals. They could be offered citizenship and substantial pay (printed out from under us, of course). This is already happening with understaffed police in some places. Imagine being arrested by an illegal alien in your own country.
If this comes to pass, violent revolution is inevitable. Americans have already tolerated way too much from this government run amok. Conscripting foreign invaders to confront the myriad “threats” to this nation - including, inevitably, the domestic threat of patriots - must be a bridge too far.
Debase the currency to pay the Goths and Vandals to do what honest Romans won't do? Sounds like a great idea! (fast forward sixteen centuries...)
WTF? Lol
More like imagine getting hit by an illegal drunk driving a police car in your own country lmao
He's not joking, there are blue cities and states where they're actively recruiting non-citizen police. Illinois in particular made it legal state-wide starting January 1st of this year.
That's more horrific than I can fully comprehend at the moment
Here's an article on it. If you ignore the AP's typical leftist downplaying and peruse the text, you'll see where they admit that it includes refugees and asylees who've been given the stamp of approval. It'll also include Obama's DACAs, when the subversive politicians inevitably allow them to legally own firearms.
They are actively trying.
Anyone in the US that talks about conscription is just fooling themselves. The DoD is not set up to handle any kind of draft of meaningful size, as all the infrastructure to do that is long since decommissioned following the Cold War. We don't have the bases to house them, the equipment to equip them, or the cadre to train them.
Sure, it could all be built, but no one is going to give the US the time to do that. Desert Storm was the teachable moment for that, in a modern context.
Mercenary army of immigrants is the likely scenario.
One of the reasons I'm not too worried about civil war 2. Those guys will take a paycheck and eat free food but they aren't dying for globalist ambitions. See: Afghanistan. The GAE thought they could hold the country with mercs for at least 6 months, didn't even last 2 days.
Yep, I agree with this wargame scenario, I think this is exactly why they're occupying us with not just illegal migrants but actual foreign criminals, it's their army, there's no other reason that they'd keep these fuckers here otherwise. The problem is the elites are out of touch retards despite being psychopaths so they have no idea that these criminals have their own ethnic loyalties.
They will definitely try conscription and I think they're floating the idea constantly at the moment to gauge public reaction as part of their psyop. When conscription fails and if they face mass revolt over it and I think they will that's when we'll see the army and police filled to the brim with foreigners and we'll probably even be able to track individuals who are known to have criminal records and possibly even be reported on by the media we'll be able to track these fuckers real time thanks to the internet.
I'm kind of looking forward to this to be honest, because it's going to be an absolute mask off moments for normies when it comes to the elites and how they view everyone. I also won't have to keep a lid on everything as much as I do RL and I'll basically point out yeah I knew this shit was coming years ago.
IMO, the end goal of the draft scare-mongering is to manufacture an excuse to fill the US military with foreigners. Most Americans will shrug and say, "Well at least I'm not getting drafted."
I would like to know more. Any suggested reading?
You can easily find sources if you look up the term 'Fragging'
It became so prevalent that it's the term for deliberately killing a superior officer in friendly fire, and as the name suggests, fragmentation grenades were the popular choice.
If you're going to die either way, you might as well die in the comfort of your own home.
Hypothetically, of course.
They can't ask you to fight for your country when it isn't your country.
The country I was born in, Canada, belongs to pajeets and negros. They can fight for it.
They absolutely would try to conscript guys for a war with China or Russia and that would 100% lead to recruiter offices getting Molotoved and sergeants getting fragged at rates higher than Vietnam.
I'd rather raise arms against the wests political class than ever fight a war against Russia. They are truly retarded if they think everyone is gonna line up for a war like good goyim
Unless there's an imminent threat to our (OUR) country I think they're afraid that more people than they can jail are going to give them the finger and tell them to fuck off.
And once people see that they've truly lost consent and we're ungovernable they know the next step is telling their tax collectors to fuck off as well.
That's why I think they'll probably have their minions in the FBI stage another false flag "terrorist" attack first.
Don't fall for it.
Maybe fear mongering but it wouldn't surprise me if the elites actually think people would sign up in droves.
If the elites think anywhere near your average dipshit liberal they probably think the "" flag thumpers "" will be the first to enlist. But they forget they have stigmatised any show of patriotism or national pride and even the dumbest normie knows they won't be fighting for their country, just the political elites.
I believe conscription could still be successfully enacted in Europe.
But in the United States... no. There's no apatite for it on either the right OR the left base. The leftists will hate it for all the reasons they hated it during Vietnam, and the right will hate it because they don't believe in the cause its for.
I HIGHLY doubt in Europe how success conscription would be.
Eastern Europe, you may have a chance....though they reject migrants and gay indoctrination more so might be a link there.
Germans might be guilt tripped enough to do it.
But the rest? French government is currently covered in shit for fucking with farmers, UK floated the idea and told collectively to fuck off, Spain did show some border enforcement but also feminist hell hole so either way on that...
Conscript the farmers, win-win. Wait, where did all the food go?
Why Europe? Eurotrash love to brag about how enlightened and pacifistic they are, and I kind of agree with them
European countries don't have enough weapons and gear to equip our laughably tiny standing armies, the fuck would governments give to conscripts? Frying pans?
The power of Free Healthcare will protect them.
Same thing they give to Ukrainian conscripts: a 20yo AK, 30 rounds, and a pat on the bum.
We don't even have old rifles, that's the thing.