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Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. (www.wsj.com)
posted 2 years ago by bla_bla_bla_2023 2 years ago by bla_bla_bla_2023 +36 / -0
Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working.
Majority of voters now want to undo a pioneering change as public drug use has become rampant
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– Grant_us_eyes 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

I've said this before, but the Mad Scientist in me wants to decriminalize hard drugs and then promptly flood the streets with them. Like, complete fucking saturation. Lethal doses of your poison for pennies.

And then just... let the problems resolve themselves.

Sadly, I'd also have to completely revoke any and all medical care for said drug addicts. You overdosed? To bad, so sad. Please crawl into this conveyor so we can shove your corpse into the incinerator.

So this'll never happen until I become dictator for life. Pity.

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– Adamrises 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

The problem with that idea is, most drugs don't make you impotent or infertile. Nor do they kill you fast enough. So you will end up with (even more) legions of suffering children born into absolute misery and left to also die in that pit.

Which is something I doubt most of us could stomach even if we tried to justify it using the ends.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I'm a foster parent and I agree with this message.

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– Knife-TotingRat 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Then spike the hard drugs with birth control of some sort.

Or let them have treatment once - that involves them getting fixed while their asses are being saved.

FAS babies aren't any better than crack babies.

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– OldBullLee 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Revoking medical care for ODs would be fine. Caveat emptor.

I favor across-the-board legalization, ending the doctor/patient prescription ritual, making all drugs available OTC to adults 18 and older.

This would need to be accompanied by an escalation in penalties for public intoxication and illegal trafficking--5 years w/no parole for the former and 20-to-life w/no parole for the latter. And no advertisement.

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– PassTheCheesePlease 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Exactly - "Muh PoRtugAl!" Etc etc

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– SumoSlammer2k 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The thing that nobody ever mentions is that decriminalization in Portugal succeeded by getting people to stop using drugs. They weren’t just handing smack out like Halloween candy.

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The cops are acting like they need the power to arrest people for using drugs to enforce the laws against other stuff. There's your problem.

Loitering, camping, and using drugs in public should all still be criminalized. If lefty policies inhibit enforcement of that, you're going to have a problem with or without drugs.

Also, I never supported legalization because it's good for the homeless. They've already failed. Decriminalization means keeping some children from becoming homeless for no reason. one should count every time that's happened.

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– RoulerBleu 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

They are already at the point they can flip a switch and cut people's access to food ( bank account freeze on the whim of Trudeau ). No need for a drug conspiracy.

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– current_horror 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Both sides are missing the point

This should be your flair.

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– RoulerBleu 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Low impulse control with a genetic predisposition to addictions meets no punishment plus accomodations for junkies.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG.

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– throwawayaccount2037 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I mean, we literally saw the exact same thing happen in Portugal: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/portugal-drug-decriminalization-problems-oregon-measure-110/283-3fbbf723-2b00-41f5-bdd0-6430add9df97

I'm not sure why this is a surprise to anyone.

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– throwawayaccount2037 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That's always going to be the case when legalising hard vices.

People literally cannot control themselves, and it always devolves into a dystopian nightmare.

Eons ago humans figured this out and that's why there were either hard bans or strict restrictions on certain vices because it was obvious what would happen without limits.

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– Shill4Hire 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

It isn't working

Or is it? Perhaps you're not looking at the results through the lens intended by the powers that be. High crime areas, druggies, drug dealers, and thieves all tend to vote in one direction, after all.

The greatest achievement of the government is convincing people it is incompetent. They got in power and maintained their empires, they're not stupid. They just aren't looking at reality with the same morals and desires that you are.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes but also - we have ample proof of people being both stupid and evil. Robert McNamara put retards in the army and thought it would work out. Obama and Jimmy Carter are, in many ways, dolts. Hillary ridiculously miscalculated.

On the inside baseball side we have the leaked tapes of the State Department managing the Ukraine coup. That's worked out about as well as every other CIA scheme.

Really the mastermind of all this is Satan.

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– PooperSnooperPrime 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The nanny state intensifies under these policies.

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– FrozeInFear 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Clearly they just attracted all of the bad addicts and smugglers. This wouldn't be a big deal if the whole country followed Oregon's lead here.
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– AlfredicEnglishRules 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Oh, it actually happened? At first I thought my left leaning friends were joking. They were proud of it and thought utopia would happen. Even the druggies hate the idea because of all the crazy government control.

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– SuurSuomi39_II 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I don't care about drug addicts.

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– current_horror 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

These “radical” ideas are just retarded products of corrupt partisan social science. You’re basically flipping a coin with the studies coming from these faux science disciplines, and yet we are still basing major policy action on this comically unreliable “science”. It is simply the apparatus by which leftists launder their degeneracy.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And it will never work as long as other areas of the country maintain prohibition. All this does is attract junkies from allover the west coast and points east.

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– PooperSnooperPrime 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This is the same as with any small problems in life in that, if you ignore them for long enough, they become more prevalent and significant. The problems become more difficult to manage than if they'd been nipped in the bud.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The real catch is that it is working. It's called "anarcho-tyranny" and it doesn't matter how bad things get, at least so long as it only harms the peasants.

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