Daily Wire seems salty for some reason
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he got it done, your precious lawsuit did not.
there is no honor in defeat against evil.
Dishonorable conduct can defeat itself for evil.
Honorable conduct is the only real advantage you have against evil.
That being said, I don't see anything dishonorable here.
James O'Keefe has made a similar argument. Yes, he lies to people and manipulates them. But, he lies to people to get them to admit to the truth to the public that they are hiding. This is a morally good action, and is only immoral when you remove all possible context.
Using the opposition's weapons against them isn't dishonorable.
The weapons aren't, but using them the same way might be.
sure we're in the camps but at least we have our honor, leftists!
You literally don't understand how honorable conduct works.
They didn't want to push the issue because they'd piss off their YouTube overlords. It's one of the reasons Crowder didn't sign onto them in the first place.
Remember when the DW wouldn't talk about Covid but Crowder did and then after YouTube stopped censoring for it the DW filed that lawsuit and started crowing in victory as if they hadn't waited till it was safe
It's offensive only for the disgusting snakes like him.
Kikes gonna kike.
Dishonest, spiteful and narcissistic? Sounds like the Daily Wire crew, and he missed the biggest complaint about Crowder: he's unfunny.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Crowder comes across in the contract argument as someone who doesn’t understand basic math and reality.
Hey, bro, I want to own all of your content, but you have to keep paying to produce it. In exchange, I'll pay you a steady lump sum, but you have to change the nature of your content to include our revenue model. Also, if you get censored, like happens regularly right now, I'll reduce your pay, just like you have to deal with right now.
The offer was garbage for Crowder. He would gain nothing and only stand to lose. He's an asshole, but he was right on that issue.
Pretty much. This new manifesto video got pulled from YouTube already so if crowder had signed with dw, that's a penalty he would be taking for bringing the truth to light. Or maybe he wouldn't even have brought it up because of the penalties
He would have been paid $50m?
The 50m for several years includes his operating costs. Ie, the people he currently hires and his current expenses.
Before the random penalties
The biggest complaint about Crowder in this regard is that he's a bad negotiator.
Why would you negotiate with a scorpion
Because if he stings me will both die! His dependency system guarantees that he'll behave himself.
He comes across as someone who genuinely understands that your monetization strategy shouldn't be based on the good will of your enemies.
Crowder comes across as an asshole as far as disposition goes, but Daily Wire is the type to knife you in the back while having a "friendly" hand shake. Crowder probably wouldn't have been able to break this story if he were under the DW either. That contract would have made him eat a huge amount of risk for breaking a story like this.
Considering YT is apparently going to censor this story, yes. He just got a warning from youtube about posting a video about this
Yep. The whole point of those contracts is to boost the power of social media censorship. The DW gets boosted by Facebook so there appears to be a relationship there. DW reeks of being an intelligence asset. We know Facebook is in deep with feds. DW also got access to Netanyahu for softball interviews.
Shapiro is a Mossad asset. That gets you a lot of friends, at the price of being required to attack anyone who turns Mossad down.
I would bet that Crowder was as much of an asshole to the Mossad agent who tried to bring him into the fold as he apparently is to everyone else.
Shapiro was purely complimentary to Crowder on this story. It's Boring whose the whiny prick.
Yeah Crowder said something positive about Shapiro the other day so I think they probably buried the hatchet. Boring is a megalomaniac
I'm so confused why crowder and his fans (I used to be one) keep talking about how that terms sheet (not even a contract) was bad because it said if daily wire lost revenue then Crowder would also lose revenue. If he gets kicked off of platforms and can't get as revenue from them DW loses money. Why would crowder still receive the same amount of money then? If crowder didn't like the terms sheet he could have negotiated, but instead he just threw a fit. Boering even said it was just hastily put together as something generic and was the first stepping stone for negotiations. If crowder wanted he should have just negotiated a smaller flat rate regardless of cancelations and demonitizations, but then get a % of profit sharing so when he does better he gets more money. Instead crowder decided to record his friend and release it to everyone to try and make himself look like the only real conservative.
Because it most likely wouldn't be his fault. Losing money for getting canceled incentivizes you to play it safe and disincentivizes truthful coverage. DW knows the score when they're hiring a conservative podcaster, so they should be willing to eat the risk.
This was a dumb move by Crowder to burn the bridge without even making a counteroffer.
Notice that we criticize the DW, and a handshake shows up for no other reason than to defend it. That account talking to you is 2 years old but has no history outside of this thread. That's not suspicious at all!
They're everywhere
Not only that but if he got canceled on a few places (big tech coordinates) the contract fines would be so big DW would be paying him "negative" salary all while he still has the cost to produce the show.
AND Daily Wire could cause him to be canceled at any time to making him run promotional content that would get his show canceled.
(((Melvar52))) knows this or should know this.
When somebody makes you an abusive offer it's not a mistake to not make a counter offer. Don't put your dick in crazy, don't work for DW.
The YouTube video on the manifesto already got pulled. If he had signed that would have been a penalty for telling the truth
That's absurd, I didn't know that.
If I remember right it was like 20% penalty per site regardless of audience size or revenue.
So getting kicked off Apple and DW losing like 1% of revenue was the same penalty as for YouTube.
An absolute shit deal and it's not like they got a template from contracts-r-us.com, DW made it that way on purpose.
If a friend made a contract like that for you wouldn't you just question them about it and show them what you're talking about instead of instantly reacting and burning bridges? What ever happened to giving people the benefit of a doubt? Hell someone could have meant to not have a 0 or a decimal point somewhere. Communication is key for everything.
Why the fuck would you make a counter offer to a slave contract? The idea of presenting that offer in the first place is denigrating
The thing is DW already has content on YouTube that they themselves censor because it still gets them money and can get part of their message out. They then plug their content that is behind the paywall that is uncensored. Michael Knowles littlerally bleeps every time he says trans when they put their content on YouTube. DW got this idea from Crowder that wouldn't say stuff that would get him kicked off YouTube but then he would say at the end of every show if you want to hear our uncensored content come to mug club and YouTube you can piss off.
They are doing the exact same thing, but somehow DW is the bad guy?
So you're trying to say that Crowder is a hypocrite because he self-censors? That seems to be relevant but it's actually not: the point is you should not penalize a creator for getting canceled. That implies the cancellation could be legitimate when the whole sum of our experience proves they never are.
If you don't like the risk then just offer them less money from the get go. Dangle a higher salary over people's heads and I promise they will try even harder to avoid getting canceled. Guess what happens to their content?
If crowder got canceled and he lost 30% of his audience DW would be making less money. Why would Crowder also then not make less money? It has nothing to do with the veracity of the claims by YT which we all know they are partisan hacks. DW employs many people so they can't make dumb business decisions and put the livelihood of their employees and their families at risk. If DW wrote up a contract that would say if Crowder makes us no money we will still pay him 60 million dollars, they would be idiots.
If Crowder didn't like that part of the term sheet he could have just negotiated, but he didn't. He decided to record his friend and burn all his bridges with DW and try to pit conservatives against each other for his own benefit.
Crowder makes far more in a year than what the daily wire was offering for 4 and he does it with less ad runs by far. They weren't going to lose shit
Because Daily Wire can absorb the hit and should stand by their talent. Also, the long term impact of cancellation is often much less painful than the short term.
Oh please lol. As I said, just offer him less money commensurate with the calculated risk.
There's no telling how much booster money has poured into the DW either.
Lol bro a term sheet is a contract offer. Where'd you get your law degree?
Crowder might very well be overbearing but his personality type is very common among business owners who have made it themselves. I've known quite a few in the circles I run with and they're very demanding people
Yeah look at James O'Keefe as well.
James is kind of an overbearing asshole as well. He even admits his problem was 'boardroom management' and not being affable enough.
It comes with the territory when you have so many actually powerful people gunning for your throat.
Are they also closeted homo theater kids? Lol
edit: look up the video of Crowder spanking Bryan Callen in a cow costume. But it's a "skit" right?
Crowder is a bit of a prick. Mostly funny and on-point on many issues, but I don't think I'd get along with the guy. That's fine.
A bit of a prick? It's probably much more than that. It isn't just Landau it is also not gay Jared and quarter black Garret. Everyone that has sat in the #2/3 chair besides Gerald has left and either isn't allowed to talk about the show, super sketchy, or has talked poorly of Crowder. Then also Sven left and hasn't been allowed to talk about the show.
I can't think of a single person that has left DW and or had bad things to say about the company. If your are aware of someone let me know.
Hi shill. Maybe try commenting on other topics occasionally to not make it so obvious.
In fairness, Landau & Garret did point out that he has issues.
I still don't trust DW.