It's also ignoring the other half of the parable - 'as thyself'.
You expect your neighbor to comport themselves as a good, faithful Christian of virtue, acting in good faith. Because you expect the same of yourself. Just as you expect others to police you and guide you back if you should be lead astray.
I'm beginning to think that the most evil thing one can do in an argument or philosophy is strip them of context. Scripture, history, science - you can twist and deform anything and everything to support even the most gruesome of acts if you strip it of context and let them stand alone, without circumstance.
That said, in reply to Op, I'd have to say 'turn the other cheek' is right up there, neck and neck, as the most misused bible verse.
Not only that, but if one neighbor A seeks to harm neighbor B and you do nothing to protect them, then you're not loving neighbor B. Sometimes love means doing whatever is necessary to protect someone.
Also, love does not require approval or acceptance or "being nice". Sometimes the best thing you can do for someone is oppose them, with violence if necessary. If you have a friend who is drunk out of his mind and about to hurt someone else, then fighting him is the right thing to do, even if you have to hurt him in the process.
The "Christianity" espoused by the mother in the video is just a manifestation of her natural female instinct to nurture and avoid conflict. She's just interpreting her own feelings as being righteous and justifying it by cherry-picking scripture when in reality it's completely false and just a manifestation of her own personality. I'll just say, there's a reason why the Bible says women shouldn't teach spiritual matters.
Jesus flipped over the tables of the money lenders in the temple.
Thus literally bankrupting them. Bankrupt comes from the Italian phrase banca rotta "broken table"-- in the old days, when a banker/moneylender was corrupt or went broke, the town authorities would walk up to their table and physically break it.
Which is why we're hated. Having standards and holding yourself and others to them is hateful to those who want to wallow in their own filth and be loved for it.
And it's not like we can perfectly achieve those standards anyway. The point is that we keep moving forward and grow as people, even if we keep falling short on the way.
Many of our enlightenment values are a continuation of Christianity and what came before. If the bible was too easy to interpret, it would lack depth or wouldn't persist across millennia. I don't agree with the parts that seem to be authoritarian social engineering, but I've learned to be very dismissive of malicious caricatures of the religion. Most of the bible isn't up to flimsy, wildly divergent interpretation.
Good grief. How do progressive Christians fail to understand that living thy neighbor does not imply that you condone what your neighbor does. This idea that loving someone means affirming them is dangerous. If I am in the wrong I hope someone would live me enough to call me out
Notice how they only want the love to go in one direction. Alphabet freaks are some of the most hateful people on the planet, but no one holds them to the standards of loving anyone.
Not to mention the Bible also DEMANDS Christians to hate. Hate that which is evil, cling to that which is good.
The opposite of Love isn't Hate its indifference, Hatred is the proper emotion for seeing purity defiled, holiness blasphemed, innocence destroyed. You have to Love something enough to hate that which sullies it.
A big problem with our culture these days is that people -- even supposed "Christians" -- don't hate evil. At best they accept it begrudgingly. At worst they celebrate it. Not good.
Love would mean you do your best to turn them away from their lives of sin and actively try to bring them to Christ. Why people think love means "accept unconditionally" I'll never know
The worst of it all is that Jesus clearly describes who your neighbour is - in a good samaritian parable it is clearly told that it's not the random bum who suffered that is the neighbour, it is the samaritian who did good deed that is the neigbhour. So loving thy neighbour is about having a community of good people who support each other, not about "we're all god's children" like in this vid because no, you're not. Many are called, few are chosen.
The word "neighbor" usually translates as "fellow saint," explicitly meaning "fellow Christian." "Love your fellow saint" is an admonishment against infighting aimed at a newly formed people.
But don't take my word for it. Read the parable of the good Samaritan, where Jesus Christ unambiguously defines "neighbor" as the man who will help you when you need it. As a White Christian, I have no neighbors.
Who your neighbor is aside, love does not mean coddle unconditionally. Supporting someone’s choice to lead a life of sin that condemns them to hell is the opposite of love.
To be fair he shouldn't have linked it. It gives the bitch views that she doesn't deserve. At least it was only a minute long. We need some kind of mirror site that allows the display of YouTube videos without giving the retards we're laughing at views and ad money.
I use the Farside URL redirector on mobile and a redirect extension on desktop (can't recall it's name at the moment) that allows me to redirect to privacy respecting front ends and add custom ones so I avoid giving them clicks.
A rainibow can have many different meanings. And if you're hiding behind this premise that the rainbow can only mean one thing; then you might just ask yourself why this community shares it upsets you so much
You wanna try that argument with dreadlocks now? Or are we saying cultural appropriation is dead.
I see a lot of confusion everywhere on that verse (even here or on that video's comment). I don't claim to have the answer, but I'll still share a few verses:
You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
Matthew 5:43-48
But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you.
Luke 6:27-28
Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.
1 Peter 3:9
It's not your job to hate people, and it's not your job to make justice either. If you want to show how great God's mercy and love is, then you have to share it around as well. Hate the sin, love the people.
With that said, there's plenty of confusion on what love is as well, but I have the same conclusion as people here though on that topic. It's not love if you see someone get hurt and do nothing yourself to stop that. It's also not love if you see someone in the wrong, and actually encourage them to stay that way or just straight-up lie to them to make them feel good. It's also not love either if your let your child do whatever he wants without limits. etc.
Love is sometimes about being harsh with your words to tell the truth
“No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
John 8:11
Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
Matthew 10:37-38
And we all know the many words Jesus had when he talked with the Pharisees and such, cause they used the Law and the opportunities given by God for their own interest. Jesus was loving of his people, but he wasn't always nice.
It's been abused to pacify resistance from the Christians against leftist infiltration.
Its love thy NEIGHBOUR, not 'love thy stranger that you don't know and demands you pay them respect for existing'
It's also ignoring the other half of the parable - 'as thyself'.
You expect your neighbor to comport themselves as a good, faithful Christian of virtue, acting in good faith. Because you expect the same of yourself. Just as you expect others to police you and guide you back if you should be lead astray.
I'm beginning to think that the most evil thing one can do in an argument or philosophy is strip them of context. Scripture, history, science - you can twist and deform anything and everything to support even the most gruesome of acts if you strip it of context and let them stand alone, without circumstance.
That said, in reply to Op, I'd have to say 'turn the other cheek' is right up there, neck and neck, as the most misused bible verse.
It's literally calling us to hold our neighbors to higher standards than others
Not only that, but if one neighbor A seeks to harm neighbor B and you do nothing to protect them, then you're not loving neighbor B. Sometimes love means doing whatever is necessary to protect someone.
Also, love does not require approval or acceptance or "being nice". Sometimes the best thing you can do for someone is oppose them, with violence if necessary. If you have a friend who is drunk out of his mind and about to hurt someone else, then fighting him is the right thing to do, even if you have to hurt him in the process.
The "Christianity" espoused by the mother in the video is just a manifestation of her natural female instinct to nurture and avoid conflict. She's just interpreting her own feelings as being righteous and justifying it by cherry-picking scripture when in reality it's completely false and just a manifestation of her own personality. I'll just say, there's a reason why the Bible says women shouldn't teach spiritual matters.
Thus literally bankrupting them. Bankrupt comes from the Italian phrase banca rotta "broken table"-- in the old days, when a banker/moneylender was corrupt or went broke, the town authorities would walk up to their table and physically break it.
Hell, Jesus occupied the temple with armed followers. Jesus was more of an insurrectionist than the Jan 6'ers.
I'm not sure what you mean "easily manipulated prinicipals" real Christians have pretty rigid principals
Which is why we're hated. Having standards and holding yourself and others to them is hateful to those who want to wallow in their own filth and be loved for it.
And it's not like we can perfectly achieve those standards anyway. The point is that we keep moving forward and grow as people, even if we keep falling short on the way.
Exactly, Jesus told us we'd be hated because of that
Many of our enlightenment values are a continuation of Christianity and what came before. If the bible was too easy to interpret, it would lack depth or wouldn't persist across millennia. I don't agree with the parts that seem to be authoritarian social engineering, but I've learned to be very dismissive of malicious caricatures of the religion. Most of the bible isn't up to flimsy, wildly divergent interpretation.
To these fucks Love thy Neighbor = Let thy Neighbor fuck your children.
Good grief. How do progressive Christians fail to understand that living thy neighbor does not imply that you condone what your neighbor does. This idea that loving someone means affirming them is dangerous. If I am in the wrong I hope someone would live me enough to call me out
Notice how they only want the love to go in one direction. Alphabet freaks are some of the most hateful people on the planet, but no one holds them to the standards of loving anyone.
Well said
This is fine as long as the message carrying the moral lesson is short and accurate and does not involve moral blackmail or coercion ("tough love").
Not to mention the Bible also DEMANDS Christians to hate. Hate that which is evil, cling to that which is good.
The opposite of Love isn't Hate its indifference, Hatred is the proper emotion for seeing purity defiled, holiness blasphemed, innocence destroyed. You have to Love something enough to hate that which sullies it.
Very good point.
A big problem with our culture these days is that people -- even supposed "Christians" -- don't hate evil. At best they accept it begrudgingly. At worst they celebrate it. Not good.
Love would mean you do your best to turn them away from their lives of sin and actively try to bring them to Christ. Why people think love means "accept unconditionally" I'll never know
Me neither
Common shitlib whitegirl L.
The worst of it all is that Jesus clearly describes who your neighbour is - in a good samaritian parable it is clearly told that it's not the random bum who suffered that is the neighbour, it is the samaritian who did good deed that is the neigbhour. So loving thy neighbour is about having a community of good people who support each other, not about "we're all god's children" like in this vid because no, you're not. Many are called, few are chosen.
The word "neighbor" usually translates as "fellow saint," explicitly meaning "fellow Christian." "Love your fellow saint" is an admonishment against infighting aimed at a newly formed people.
But don't take my word for it. Read the parable of the good Samaritan, where Jesus Christ unambiguously defines "neighbor" as the man who will help you when you need it. As a White Christian, I have no neighbors.
Who your neighbor is aside, love does not mean coddle unconditionally. Supporting someone’s choice to lead a life of sin that condemns them to hell is the opposite of love.
....hmmm.... see this is why I limit my time with any media on the internet.
I shouldn't have watched that. Time to close the tabs.
To be fair he shouldn't have linked it. It gives the bitch views that she doesn't deserve. At least it was only a minute long. We need some kind of mirror site that allows the display of YouTube videos without giving the retards we're laughing at views and ad money.
Invidious to the rescue. https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=S0t78fBVF4c
I use the Farside URL redirector on mobile and a redirect extension on desktop (can't recall it's name at the moment) that allows me to redirect to privacy respecting front ends and add custom ones so I avoid giving them clicks.
You wanna try that argument with dreadlocks now? Or are we saying cultural appropriation is dead.
"Turn the other cheek" is right up there.
Leave me alone and we'll get along fine. Start morally chastising me or abusing my quietude and we have a major problem.
You sound insufferable
Just a hermit-in-training, so . . . sure, why not? Raus!
Spread bullshit . . . it has a more tangible effect, like fertilizing vegetables.
I see a lot of confusion everywhere on that verse (even here or on that video's comment). I don't claim to have the answer, but I'll still share a few verses:
Matthew 5:43-48
Luke 6:27-28
1 Peter 3:9
It's not your job to hate people, and it's not your job to make justice either. If you want to show how great God's mercy and love is, then you have to share it around as well. Hate the sin, love the people.
With that said, there's plenty of confusion on what love is as well, but I have the same conclusion as people here though on that topic. It's not love if you see someone get hurt and do nothing yourself to stop that. It's also not love if you see someone in the wrong, and actually encourage them to stay that way or just straight-up lie to them to make them feel good. It's also not love either if your let your child do whatever he wants without limits. etc.
Love is sometimes about being harsh with your words to tell the truth
John 8:11
Matthew 10:37-38
And we all know the many words Jesus had when he talked with the Pharisees and such, cause they used the Law and the opportunities given by God for their own interest. Jesus was loving of his people, but he wasn't always nice.