It’s clearly because “colonizers”, just like in the Americas, just because the “natives” had genocided off numerous other tribes, the second “colonizers” showed up is when the “violent history” began. Maybe because we could actually write…
"We came in peace to this land, already occupied. The land was soon gifted to us by the Little People, who then mysteriously disappeared." -Actual origin myth of a "peaceful", always-victim civilization.
They can think "white people don't know how to season their food" and "white people destroyed entire civilizations to acquire different spices" at the same time and it doesn't bother them.
When you have a double-digit IQ below 80, holding 2 thoughts at the same time is already a luxury let alone identifying logical conflicts between them.
After a swift Bandanese surrender, the victors rounded up local leaders. They signed treaties that turned the Bandanese into Dutch subjects, then tortured them for confessions revealing alleged plots to attack the Dutch.
Thousands were killed, others enslaved, and many who fled to the mountains were starved out.
Now if someone calls me gay for enjoying pumpkin spice I can point to this article and say "no see, it is totally based."
I can see that. Sometimes things that sound awful end up working pretty well. I remember there was some Kalua drink with orange juice and milk...sounds awful, basically turned out to be a liquid orange creamsicle, and quite good.
While living in Hawaii I grabbed some Dr Pepper and egg nog. The cup didn't get rinsed so I got them mixed. When I realized it tasted good, I experimented. Ginger beer and egg nog is the most interesting. Orange soda and egg nog is great and became a family thing.
Irn Bru doesnae work though. Don't make the mistake.
After a swift Bandanese surrender, the victors rounded up local leaders. They signed treaties that turned the Bandanese into Dutch subjects, then tortured them for confessions revealing alleged plots to attack the Dutch. Thousands were killed, others enslaved, and many who fled to the mountains were starved out. “The population of around 15,000 Bandanese was decimated to just a few hundred in a few months,” said Adam Clulow, a historian and professor at the University of Texas at Austin. “The Dutch company was later accused of carrying out what some describe as the first instance of corporate genocide.” “And it was all for nutmeg,” he said.
I find this a bit suspicious. The Dutch aren't known for being cruel conquerors and genocidal maniacs. There is the Belgian Congo, but that was the actions of one very specific lunatic that basically convinced the Belgians to abandon colonialism altogether.
This is especially odd considering there were no such genocides conducted by the English or Portuguese that were literally next to them. There is a specific massacre (-ish) that seemed to have led to the death of a couple thousand people.
The natives surrendered already, before this attack took place, then they had to surrender again to the rampaging and burning... Dutch.
This seems a little bit crazy, to be honest. I would suspect that some kind of deportation of the population took place, as people sought refuge in English controlled territory, and the population needed to be stabilized with imported slaves.
There seems to be two things that suggests to me that there was at least some Dutch brutality: and the first part seems to be that the Dutch did massacre and English garrison in an earlier conflict on the island; also that the island's population were islamic. Considering the conflict with the American conflict with the Barbary Caliphate, it's possible that there may have been violent cross actions conducted against "infadels", but I don't have evidence of this. That being said, if the Dutch were exposed to Islamic levels of interpersonal violence, I could see why they would use fire to suppress the population... but then, why not try to properly Christianize it. Something's off.
Frankly, there's not much evidence here generally. I'm not sure how the University of Hawaii professors (very sus) discovered that the population of the Island was 15,000 when even the Dutch didn't bother to count.
Brown people crying and wanting me to feel bad because their ancestors were fucking losers, what else is new?
This. I won't apologize for being superior.
i WILL apologize for my ancestors making the mistake of not wiping theirs out, though.
Biggest mistake the British made in Australia as well. Should have cleared the nation for a fresh start
Everything has a violent history, civilization wasn't all sunshine and rainbows for like 99% of human history
It’s clearly because “colonizers”, just like in the Americas, just because the “natives” had genocided off numerous other tribes, the second “colonizers” showed up is when the “violent history” began. Maybe because we could actually write…
The way they decide between native (nonwhite) tribes is whoever occupied it last before white people got there.
"We came in peace to this land, already occupied. The land was soon gifted to us by the Little People, who then mysteriously disappeared." -Actual origin myth of a "peaceful", always-victim civilization.
They can think "white people don't know how to season their food" and "white people destroyed entire civilizations to acquire different spices" at the same time and it doesn't bother them.
When you have a double-digit IQ below 80, holding 2 thoughts at the same time is already a luxury let alone identifying logical conflicts between them.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! 🩸
PUMPKIN SPICE FOR THE THOT MUGS! 🎃
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES! 🥣
Now if someone calls me gay for enjoying pumpkin spice I can point to this article and say "no see, it is totally based."
git gud
I really don't care. This is eggnog with orange soda season.
Eggnog with orange soda?
That...does not sound good.
It's like drinking orange sherbet.
I can see that. Sometimes things that sound awful end up working pretty well. I remember there was some Kalua drink with orange juice and milk...sounds awful, basically turned out to be a liquid orange creamsicle, and quite good.
Yeah, egg nog needs a thinner so I use soda. Orange is the best though.
Just use trix cereal and whiskey as your egg nog thinner, like god intended.
I need to know more about this strange concoction.
While living in Hawaii I grabbed some Dr Pepper and egg nog. The cup didn't get rinsed so I got them mixed. When I realized it tasted good, I experimented. Ginger beer and egg nog is the most interesting. Orange soda and egg nog is great and became a family thing.
Irn Bru doesnae work though. Don't make the mistake.
Irn Bru hasn't worked since the sugar tax ruined it.
Agreed.
I love seeing white, american culture on display. even something as simple as the favorite seasonal drink of our society.
Despite being someone who despises the whole pumpkin spice spam every fall, and the culture associated with it:
Shut up, WaPo. Just shut up already.
Kind of want to go get some pumpkin spice drink just out of spite now.
I find this a bit suspicious. The Dutch aren't known for being cruel conquerors and genocidal maniacs. There is the Belgian Congo, but that was the actions of one very specific lunatic that basically convinced the Belgians to abandon colonialism altogether.
This is especially odd considering there were no such genocides conducted by the English or Portuguese that were literally next to them. There is a specific massacre (-ish) that seemed to have led to the death of a couple thousand people.
The natives surrendered already, before this attack took place, then they had to surrender again to the rampaging and burning... Dutch.
This seems a little bit crazy, to be honest. I would suspect that some kind of deportation of the population took place, as people sought refuge in English controlled territory, and the population needed to be stabilized with imported slaves.
There seems to be two things that suggests to me that there was at least some Dutch brutality: and the first part seems to be that the Dutch did massacre and English garrison in an earlier conflict on the island; also that the island's population were islamic. Considering the conflict with the American conflict with the Barbary Caliphate, it's possible that there may have been violent cross actions conducted against "infadels", but I don't have evidence of this. That being said, if the Dutch were exposed to Islamic levels of interpersonal violence, I could see why they would use fire to suppress the population... but then, why not try to properly Christianize it. Something's off.
Frankly, there's not much evidence here generally. I'm not sure how the University of Hawaii professors (very sus) discovered that the population of the Island was 15,000 when even the Dutch didn't bother to count.