Romantic options have been a disaster for the WRPG format ever since they were introduced and they've only gotten worse since.
This really isn't worse than anything Dragon Age Origins was doing a decade and a half ago, but back then it was novel and we believed the gays would be satisfied with their garbage and shutup.
100%. I remember posting to the BioWare forums way back when. I’d get into arguments about gameplay balance and game mechanics and progression systems. A lot of my detractors had absolutely braindead takes, usually suggesting a total inability to grasp even basic math and game design principles. I quickly realized that these people didn’t care about anything beyond the diversity and degeneracy of in-game romance. That was their entire point of entry and reason for caring about the game.
I suspect some of them eventually secured jobs at the company. That’s typically how it goes with these things; the fans eventually become the stewards and run that shit straight into the ground.
The first dragon age kept it pretty heterosexual. The second one introduced the big gay, and I’m not sure it was even possible to avoid being hit on by the gay mage dude. Then the game was accidentally based because homo turned out to be a genocidal maniac.
Inquisition went full lgbt with lesbians, gays, trannies, the whole shebang. The genre has been a shitshow ever since.
The Elf guy in DA:O is probably the only character you can accidentally romance just because of how aggressively they wanted you to see the homo and how little difference there was between basic "being nice" and seducing. You almost had to not recruit him to avoid it.
Anders you could at least bully the shit out of the entire game (which would keep him from hitting on you at any point) because the Rivalry mechanic was one of the best parts of that game.
Western RPG. Like how Japanese RPGs are called JRPGs. It's talking about the style of game moreso than place of origin, they just happen to align most of the time.
That was more of a cool mechanic than anything. A macro thing that was a neat addition to an RPG, because their friendship or relationship values would affect optional scenes you'd see, how likely they were to get pissed if the other fell in battle and so forth. It was one of the things that drew me to it as well, and it's completely different from the marketing, and the game itself, revolving around badly written romances specifically written for players (specifically females and gays) to get their rocks off.
(Edit: By 'macro thing' I mean you were sort of managing the relationships, you weren't down in the trenches.)
I will play the game at some point because I stupidly bought it like five years ago. I’m planning to kill every character that demonstrates woke design principles of any kind. I guess we’ll see how “flexible” the game really is.
Wonder how long it will take the mod community to “fix” this stuff.
I’m legitimately curious myself. Will it end up being a solo run with no party? Or a genocide run where every npc dies? I remember in DOS2 that people would systematically kill every npc before moving on to the next act in order to maximize experience gains, and that was just for power. Imagine if 90% of those npcs are progressive leftists?
I saw the bg3 thing with the bear sex where they were talking about how bad it was to do a few quests to get into a sex relationship......so they went with get enough approves and boom....
I'm hoping Rogue Trader stays the course where characters are great (even Idira though she doesn't have the best 1st impressions, seriously Owlcat needs better artists at drawing females)
I was playing BG3 with some friends last night and there was a sadomasochist guy who wanted to whip one of our companions to "cleanse" him. I bought the game because my friends wanted to play, its mostly fun but it is very pozzed. It has been said a million times on here but this was never about representation, they crybully their way into things people like then rot them from the inside.
With all the videos I’m seeing posted by both the devs and players, you would think this game is nothing but sex and romance plots. And, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but if I had to choose between this or some weeb bullshit from Japan then I would take the weeb bullshit in a heartbeat. Because at least with that they would tease anything sexual. With western games like this they would jump right into it and make it as gross as possible.
Remember when one of the artists working for Larian studios was complaining about people who constantly nagged about body representation and harassed them for wanting sexy ladies in video games through a then-famous article titled "Save the Boob-plate"?
It is indeed possible! But only in Japan, and only for now.
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Romantic options have been a disaster for the WRPG format ever since they were introduced and they've only gotten worse since.
This really isn't worse than anything Dragon Age Origins was doing a decade and a half ago, but back then it was novel and we believed the gays would be satisfied with their garbage and shutup.
Half of the audience for "WRPGs" now seems to be weird degenerates that are treating characters in the game like sexytime dolls.
100%. I remember posting to the BioWare forums way back when. I’d get into arguments about gameplay balance and game mechanics and progression systems. A lot of my detractors had absolutely braindead takes, usually suggesting a total inability to grasp even basic math and game design principles. I quickly realized that these people didn’t care about anything beyond the diversity and degeneracy of in-game romance. That was their entire point of entry and reason for caring about the game.
I suspect some of them eventually secured jobs at the company. That’s typically how it goes with these things; the fans eventually become the stewards and run that shit straight into the ground.
Bioware ruined CRPGs. They started the rot and welcomed the audience change.
The first dragon age kept it pretty heterosexual. The second one introduced the big gay, and I’m not sure it was even possible to avoid being hit on by the gay mage dude. Then the game was accidentally based because homo turned out to be a genocidal maniac.
Inquisition went full lgbt with lesbians, gays, trannies, the whole shebang. The genre has been a shitshow ever since.
The Elf guy in DA:O is probably the only character you can accidentally romance just because of how aggressively they wanted you to see the homo and how little difference there was between basic "being nice" and seducing. You almost had to not recruit him to avoid it.
Anders you could at least bully the shit out of the entire game (which would keep him from hitting on you at any point) because the Rivalry mechanic was one of the best parts of that game.
Yeah, Romance bs dosen't belong in RPGs. That's why Dating Simulators are a thing.
Why do games need relationship options at all?
Because to many WRPG players, having sex is just as fantastical as casting spells or slaying dragons.
WRPg?
Western RPG. Like how Japanese RPGs are called JRPGs. It's talking about the style of game moreso than place of origin, they just happen to align most of the time.
I can't knock it, since that's what got me to play Star Ocean: The Second Story, one of my favorite RPGs of all time.
Anyone can be shipped with anyone else.
But that was a Japanese game.
That was more of a cool mechanic than anything. A macro thing that was a neat addition to an RPG, because their friendship or relationship values would affect optional scenes you'd see, how likely they were to get pissed if the other fell in battle and so forth. It was one of the things that drew me to it as well, and it's completely different from the marketing, and the game itself, revolving around badly written romances specifically written for players (specifically females and gays) to get their rocks off.
(Edit: By 'macro thing' I mean you were sort of managing the relationships, you weren't down in the trenches.)
I will play the game at some point because I stupidly bought it like five years ago. I’m planning to kill every character that demonstrates woke design principles of any kind. I guess we’ll see how “flexible” the game really is.
Wonder how long it will take the mod community to “fix” this stuff.
I’m legitimately curious myself. Will it end up being a solo run with no party? Or a genocide run where every npc dies? I remember in DOS2 that people would systematically kill every npc before moving on to the next act in order to maximize experience gains, and that was just for power. Imagine if 90% of those npcs are progressive leftists?
The mind worm things probably don't, since they're evil
Hahaha, let us know how it works out (serious).
You're right. Everything about the game is off putting. Even basic scenes feel terrifically stale and amateurish even before you get to the writing.
But the woke shit doesn't help at all.
I saw the bg3 thing with the bear sex where they were talking about how bad it was to do a few quests to get into a sex relationship......so they went with get enough approves and boom....
I'm hoping Rogue Trader stays the course where characters are great (even Idira though she doesn't have the best 1st impressions, seriously Owlcat needs better artists at drawing females)
at least its not Forsaken or Saints Row level writing... yet?
I was playing BG3 with some friends last night and there was a sadomasochist guy who wanted to whip one of our companions to "cleanse" him. I bought the game because my friends wanted to play, its mostly fun but it is very pozzed. It has been said a million times on here but this was never about representation, they crybully their way into things people like then rot them from the inside.
No unicorns were harmed in the making of this stupidity.
With all the videos I’m seeing posted by both the devs and players, you would think this game is nothing but sex and romance plots. And, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but if I had to choose between this or some weeb bullshit from Japan then I would take the weeb bullshit in a heartbeat. Because at least with that they would tease anything sexual. With western games like this they would jump right into it and make it as gross as possible.
Remember when one of the artists working for Larian studios was complaining about people who constantly nagged about body representation and harassed them for wanting sexy ladies in video games through a then-famous article titled "Save the Boob-plate"?
I remember.
It's doable. But you'll need to handle all the production yourself.