I realise I am going to come across exactly like this stock market trader the BBC was interviewing ages ago but I totally get the mentality. I've had a long plan of setting up my own game dev/media business and I am absolutely thrilled at all the bad shit that is happening to these awful companies. I know that traditionally it's bad karma to celebrate people losing their jobs and everything but in these particular instances and given they really are the absolute worse sorts of people getting the axe I think I can get away with it.
Hollywood, going down? That's fucking fantastic, can't stand the paedophile people traffickers. On top of that back in the day it would have been unthinkable for an outsider to come up with any kind of movies or short films to compete but now they're shooting themselves in the foot at every opportunity and the AI dispute with the writers and actors might be the thing that finally kills them or at least severely weakens their hold over media.
Games companies dying? Great, fuck them, they hate their own playerbase anyway and openly show they do. Not only that, like Hollywood they consistently produce shit and haven't made a single improvement in their workflows with the overall quality going to hell.
Journalists getting replaced by AI? That's even better, all of the stuff they spew out is going to be unwatchable and the AI could well be exploited at some point that even with left wingers the news is going to be discredited. Adding to that journalists simply won't have the same power as they once did so they won't be able to form convincing twitter mobs against specific people who stand up to them or just get in their crosshairs.
Everyone who cares about the state of journalism, films, games should be excited about what's going to happen and there's a lot of money to be made from these stupid fucks. Indie creators will now be able to get their foot in the door with films as Hollywood's reach diminishes. Indie game devs can compete with the big corporations even if they're shamelessly cloning other titles as long as it doesn't suck which I find hilarious. Citizen journalists as well are probably going to get far more attention online as the normies get fed up with the AI bots everywhere or react with horror as some 4chan autist manages to get the AI to spam gas the jews live on air to be edgy.
I actually think the lockdowns in 2020 hastened the fall of western media. Because people were locked inside with nothing to do, they tried the standard media and realised how shit it is and couldn't relate to celebrities in their mansions as they were trapped in their small homes.
By comparison, there's been a huge rise in podcasts since they've been able to relate more to people by just shooting the shit. Vtubers rose too along with anime and manga for the fantasy escapism angle.
It was always going to fail on the path it's been on but 2020 just sped up the process.
The Presidential campaign and then administration of Donald Trump was the singular event that caused media credibility to virtually suck start a shotgun.
So many people have terminal cases of TDS, and everyone can see it now.
Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect was coined in the 1990s, but it had been an obscure thing for so long, only known by real news junkies, and almost exclusively by right wing ones.
It’s been a while since I’d last heard about the “Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.”
Here’s some information about it for those unfamiliar:
The term came from Michael Crichton’s speech “Why Speculate?” regarding misinformative, opinionated speculation in news media, delivered in 2002. This is the passage that originated the term:
That's fascinating, didn't know about this, the modern term for it is memory holing, that's what I learned online.
Pretty much just without lockdowns, I think they might've lasted till early 2030
Because people were stuck inside so were limited in entertainment options, people quickly realised how shit and TDS infected they were. A lot of the gains we are getting is because the lockdowns became a catalyst event that shortened the normie patience.
They still weren't worth the death toll though.
That's a fantastic take on VTubers and may well be the piece of it I didn't understand.
People want escapism -- but celebrities revealed themselves to be vapid and out of touch to the normies. Something we have all known was suddenly laid bare for all to see. So, fake celebrities were the next best thing. A pure fantasy to get that same escapism.
I still think the whole thing is/was weird and cringey -- especially the kind of stuff you saw on /r/all for a long time in 21 and 22. But at least this helps me understand some theory as to why it came about.
Thanks!
I hope you have gotten off of reddit. When you help reduce their real human traffic you get em where it hurts, because the expense associated with fake traffic and narrative curation hinge on the substance of real traffic that you provide by being tolerant of them and interested in x sub
Oh yeah. Barely check it for baseball news these days, but never even go on /r/all anymore.
When they killed their API they lost me as a user. I would never use their cancerous app or give them a dollop of revenue.
Western celebrities aren't a form of escapism any more because they're constantly on social media breaking the illusion. They're no longer just their characters. They're real people with bad opinions and horrible takes just like the rest of us, so the illusion has been permanently dispelled.
You don't have to worry too much about an anime or video game character getting drunk and calling all their fans Nazis on Twitter because anime characters aren't real. This keeps the fantasy real. Even when writers decide that your beloved childhood character is suddenly a pedophile, you can simply dismiss it as bad writing and refuse to accept it as canon. You can't do that with an actor who embodies a role in every way.
I think another issue is that so many celebrities are increasingly so fake in everything they do. Limited life experience, limited ambition and drive, and still being paid the big bucks in spite of being soulless husks compared to some of their predecessors.
And top of that they've become the most outspoken and whiny bitches, despite being well off financially and career-wise. It's of little surprise that "influencers" and vtubers seem to command just about as much attention and respect now, comparatively.
If it's any consolation I find Vtubers too cringey to watch because it's definitely a niche thing but I don't necessarily blame them, if it works for people I won't knock that aspect. At least that's somewhat wholesome compared to the rampant Thot and Hollywood worship.
Yes. I consider that to be one of the worst effects of the lockdowns. It's actually worse than the millions dead. Holy fucking shit, every random knob goblin has a le podcast now. Total podcaster death.
For every good one, you got 20 copycats that are really shit at it
That'll never change unless EVERY person is capable of introspection which will happen at the heat death of the universe..
My favorite part was when, at work, our internal software tooling team started doing podcasts instead of release notes. So instead of sending us a short list of changes in a new release that I could skim in two minutes, they shat out a 60-90 minute audio file where they jacked each other off about how they worked super hard. I would have murdered them but they were all in Australia. They all got shitcanned since, and I sincerely hope they're now sucking dick in a truck parking lot for a bowl of soup.
Man, I thought the mandatory Monday meetings that could have been an email were bad.
🎶 Could you not have put this in an emaiiiil 🎶
That sounds like the most dull thing in the world, and worst part is unlike YouTube you can't skip to the parts you want..
It's the same with streamers, vtuber, YouTubers etc for every successful one there are thousands of failures. The difference with podcasts is they see these people shooting the shit successfully and think why can't they do it.
Not realising the talent it takes to storycraft, engage with your fellow presenters and/or guests and the charisma it takes to draw someone you have never met in.
I think the long form, highly edited and greatly researched videos you find on youtube or odyssey are what is killing western media also. Why watch a movie about how bad white people are when you can learn about this very niche but interesting ARG someone made, have people lead you through it. Or why even bother with documentaries? Youtube's got thousands to any kinda topic you want and often times more accurate or interesting.
I think some parallels can be drawn to how awful some media in the 70's was for quite a while. And then the golden age of the 80's and 90's were born out of that boring hellscape (along with many technical advancements).
Not that everything in the 70's sucked mind you, but a lot of TV shows and movies, especially from the earlier part of the decade, were just bloody terrible. A lot of awful trends that had low entertainment value, like blaxploitation, hippie centered flicks, some of the grungy urbanite flicks, and a wide range of preachy and "artsy" lefty films that parallels today's so-called "storytellers".
There were exceptions of course, especially in film. And I think the music scene was probably one of the positive highlights of that era (which continued into the 80's, only to be slowly drowned into irrelevancy by the 90's and early 2000's).
Does that really hold water when they been open and gleeful about driving out people from hobbies and interests? It's like someone trying to pull a 'so long suckers!', Taking off on a bike only to flip over and smash their face in, then getting mad at you for laughing.
Honestly I've been feeling kind of generous with how bad it's been getting for them :D yeah, given the types of people that will be losing their jobs because of how useless we all knew they really were. I don't think it applies here at all either, I have even less sympathy these days for the shit head enablers at these companies who went along with it all and tried to whisper or PM about how they're against it. No, they enabled this pattern of abuse against people minding their own business and trying to enjoy their hobbies, fuck all of them.
Have you forgotten far left pod people telling laid off blue collar workers "learn to code?"
I sure as fuck have not.
They have earned your hate, do not feel guilty for celebrating their bad decisions.
I bought a steak when I first saw the news :P
Haha, I remember you saying you would buy a steak, and I'm glad you followed through!!
I thought the “learn to code” people were mostly rightists making fun of laid-off journalists and academics.
No, they were firing it right back at the reporters who used it first. Buzzfeed started it in 2014, because of course they did.
Then instead of taking their lumps they ran crying to the jannies
Originally it was the left telling coal miners to code and then the right co-opted the fuck out of it like they do sometimes and then the left are getting triggered by it constantly in typical fashion when they were the ones who started it in the first place.
While I too cheer for these corrupt institutions to fail, they won't. The cathedral won't let that happen. "Too big to fail". Stimulus packages in the name of continuing to promote propaganda. Make work jobs for the useful idiots that have some kind of work ability and cushy welfare boosts for those who don't wanna. In fact, I fully expect any day now to see coordinated news articles about how vital Hollywood is because movies are America's greatest export and we need to keep little Ahmed Mohammed from listening to his parents about what Islam says about women and gays.
The majority of people to lose their jobs will likely be people who actually work and keep vital yet nearly invisible infrastructure operating. The competency crisis gets boosted to new levels, more disasters happen, more "free" money in the feeding trough.
Will more people having their entire way of life destroyed by liars, cheaters, and thieves finally get them to act? Don't bet your life on it, fren.
I completely agree and that's a scenario I've thought about as well but these institutions are going to be a total shell of their former selves. The normies are going to get absolutely hopping mad if a bailout is offered and especially if the democrats are dumb enough to do it before 2024 because then Trump can completely capitalise on that move by going "I hate these guys more than you ever will and I'll be happy to see them unemployed, vote for me".
They could justify it with the banks, because muh economy, but the media and Hollywood? That's going to be a hilarious shitshow. I was actually talking to some normies RL recently about the sort of stuff they actually like watching and even these guys were basically saying they just streamed stuff or didn't really watch any Hollywood movies. A lot of these businesses are going to be done even with the bailouts and even if Hollywood does get money, the whole AI issue is going to make them lose tons of staff which will lead to a huge drop in quality.
I think even for normies, a bailout of the media companies and Hollywood is going to be a massive red pill moment and I can't wait.
Never feel bad about the misfortunes of people who hate you and want you dead.
Yo, I've been hoping for this sort of thing for a while now. What sort of games/media are you thinking of making?
I'm already making stuff, I've messaged the gaming mods to see if I can post a shill thread there and put up my stuff now because I've been getting a few 'challenges' from idiots who get mad about me criticising games they like and they claim I don't know anything about how the mechanics work even though I code. I figured as well of course it wouldn't be good to be one of those people joining a site right away and purely posting ads like a dick lol because I know what that often looks like. Dunno if I should maybe do a post on this place instead or what people think.
Hey man, you can shill to me in the comments here, nobody needs to know...
Also, I see from your post history you're using Godot. Very based.
lol thanks, I feel like it would be polite to contain it all in one thread though.
I just started entering the industry because I got fed up with the direction of the game market. Finishing an internship now.
Are you just looking to do solo stuff, or are you looking for more people to go against the grain to really start something? Most of the people I find really just mean they're web3 shills obsessed with forcing NFTs into their games when they think of "going against the grain".
Well I posted a thread awhile back giving resources to people for making their own games including my own workflow, I think I'm just going to go ahead and make my own topic and see if the mods tell me off because I'm getting an increasing number of questions. When it comes to my own work no, no NFTs or any of that crap and you're right that's just people looking for a cash grab. I've been doing a heavy amount of research myself into all genres of games and I'm now at the stage where I'm confident I can make pretty much any genre of game I want. It's exciting being able to properly get into the design phase.
I should also post my github again because I do update the code and I've put up stuff like box selection code I worked out from an out of date tutorial that's now all completely functional among other things. I use the Godot engine by the way and that's been another part of my research to make sure on the software side of things at least I can't be compromised.
Honestly, when we can transmit anyone with a camera pointed at a game, broadcast sports have ended as well. Unity had something for it, but abandoned the project recently.
I know architecture is going to change a lot because of AI.
It won't, what AI will do is expose a lot of lazy people for who they are and it will tank their companies completely once they've fired everybody and realise too late what they've done when they roll out the AI and it's a hilarious catastrophe or painful to even look at the content generated.
There was an attempt on the old Godot forum by the admin to put up a basic chatGPT style bot that would 'answer' basic programming questions and it failed miserably. It would often blatantly copy paste irrelevant answers from other comments on sites or it would just post up gibberish that barely qualified as a response.
To make matters worse of course, because the bot wasn't clearly labelled as a bot. Noobs would think they were responding to a real person which caused even more chaos and made the forums pretty unusable which is another aspect of that site people got fed up with. It was terrible and this AI switchover by big tech and all the others is going to be a total catastrophe.
I'm not disagreeing about the lazy people, but their jobs were at risk anyway. Nice cushy jobs with no work but feelings of superiority? Yeah, they flock to those jobs and think that AI is something they can just order around and get what you want.
On the other hand, the competent designer who learns how to use AI as a tool is faster and better than those who don't. I made an entire design document for a theme park in a week, with illustrations and basic design shown. That can take years to design just this document with any sense of what needs to look right.
I'm honestly tempted to somehow post it here just to get feedback. The problem is I don't want to do it off something like Google drive.
The entire economy will crash first.
These companies aren't beholden to profits. If they were they wouldn't be doing this. The people at the top have infinity money, so they just push whatever they feel like.
Won't stop until the whole system collapses.
If you're on here, you may be at least passingly familiar with a group called "The Fine Young Capitalists." They had an interesting model for helping people with ideas getting a taste of success, even if their focus was young women.
I just want to kill companies like EA and steal all their customers, that's my business plan.
my point is it's a tactic to use, lol.