It's literally their only advantage. If you only watch sports for the display of talent and athleticism, why would you watch the league where the champions consistently lose to teenage boys?
You're just left with an audience of women for whom their in-group bias makes the male leagues unrelatable, and fan so prolific the male leagues don't provide enough hours so they start watching the female leagues too.
But put on the skimpy outfits and you might at least attract the fans who want a mix of athleticism and eye-candy that the male leagues can't provide.
It's the same across all sports. Tennis is the most vocal - firstly why aren't they playing 5 sets like the men? - THey don't even try and compare on court time. it's just "Because She's worth it". L'Oreal have a shit load to answer for
their job is not to kick a soccerball. their job is to entertain people, sell attention to advertisers. if their job is to kick a soccerball, then they're fucking terrible. the top women's teams in the world lose to 13 year old boys. calling them equals as the men's world cup teams is an insult.
they're making 20%, but the men only get 7% of what they bring in. shit, either the men need to demand 20% also, or the women need to be cut down to 7%. anything less is blatant discrimination.
I have a daughter and if she is in an office and she is doing the same job as the person next to her then I would want her to be paid equally. There is no doubt about that.
The fact that Men's World Cup and Women's World Cup are being considered the same job in the same office is the error in the logic.
I have a daughter and if she is in an office and she is doing the same job as the person next to her then I would want her to be paid equally. There is no doubt about that.
If I make a video on Youtube I should make just as much money as
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T-Series and MrBeast.
It doesn't matter how many subscribers I have. It doesn't matter if I have subscribers. I need to be making just as much money as them, or Youtube is bigoted!
I think it's extremely misleading of you to not post the rest of his quote.
“But there are economic factors between the Premier League and the Championship and across sports at different levels. In our league the broadcast deal is a huge part of why the salaries are what they are and that determines what it’s possible to pay.”
What you just did made it sound like he is saying the opposite of what he is actually saying.
I am no fan of Gareth Southgate but don't purposefully take his quote out of context.
That's the kind of shit the mainstream media pulls.
He's a fucking retard with or without context, and even the "without context" part is him being a fuckwit.
Women don't deserve to be paid the same for doing the same job.
Nobody does.
because nobody is the same as everyone else. I highly fucking doubt, that you will find people who've worked for the same amount of years, put in the same amount of hours, same amount of effort, have the same punctuality, and the same various other things employers look at.
No intelligent employer is paying the laziest asshole on the job the same as their best workers, regardless of if they have the same job.
Even if you grant same job at the same office the male colleague is producing/earning so much more for the company that he would 100% have a much higher wage or be able to negotiate for one, not to mention he would be up for promotions (fake ones to increase salary if he doesn't want the extra responsibility or normal ones).
While she can be considered lucky if they don't find a way to sue her for her abysmal work
“If you want to talk about pay disparity, the Women’s World Cup players get paid out 20 per cent of the total revenue.
“The men get paid out seven per cent. As a percentage point they’re getting much more.
I found that hilarious. Women are still complaining even though they're making 3 TIMES as much as the men are on a percentage of total revenue basis. It sounds like the men should be complaining tbh.
In fact, the whole "equal pay for the 'same job'" mantra is completely ridiculous. The correct formulation is equal pay for equal value. Pay must be correlated to value added; anything else is an economic inefficiency and makes everyone poorer.
it's because it's not the same job. these women lose to 13 year old boys. their job isn't to kick a soccerball... it's to sell consumer attention to advertisers. and objectively they're much worse than the men.
Now now, let's not be too hasty. Equal pay in soccer might be worth exploring.
Either men get paid less (they are pathetic leftists activists and teams don't represent the countries they play for anymore). Or the women's cup becomes a massive loss event for FIFA. Seems like a win-win.
Don’t strive for getting the same, strive for getting what you’re worth.
Great advice. Sadly the whole 'wage gap' myth is built entirely on context-blind envy. They don't want what they're worth. They don't want what they can earn. They want what you have. They want what they perceive you have. And they want it for nothing.
When the women's team can beat the men's team in the FIFA World Cup, then they can get the big payout, which is actually the same work for the same pay.
Honestly, kind of. This article isn't insinuating that women are inherently worth less compared to men. It's saying that the female teams don't make as much income for their soccer leagues as the men's soccer teams do.
Normally it is based on what I can confirm, related to specific factoids. But, general "truth value" isn't what this rule is about.
That rule isn't meant to stop the spread of things that aren't true, but things that are not intentional falsehoods, or in another word: disinformation.
Something that isn't just untrue, or even objectively false, but objectively false to the point that the poster themselves is aware of the fact that what they are saying is false and is still repeating it as if it were true, with the intent to deceive.
This is normally demonstrated by getting a fact objectively wrong, normally from their own source contradicting them, or them sometimes even straight up admitting to it.
Opinions, to be clear, are simple opinions and aren't subject to this rule. Something has to be a specific factoid that is false, and being spread with malintent.
I bet if they wore skimpy outfits like beach volleyball they could pull the same or better than men's.
It's funny how no one ever talks about the pay gap between female and male strippers...
Or any sex industry job
Only popular women's soccer I've ever seen was the girl's team at my old college. Uniform was sports bras and tiny exercise shorts.
Make women's sports great again
I like that Submission wrestling you see on the net ;)
It's literally their only advantage. If you only watch sports for the display of talent and athleticism, why would you watch the league where the champions consistently lose to teenage boys?
You're just left with an audience of women for whom their in-group bias makes the male leagues unrelatable, and fan so prolific the male leagues don't provide enough hours so they start watching the female leagues too.
But put on the skimpy outfits and you might at least attract the fans who want a mix of athleticism and eye-candy that the male leagues can't provide.
It's the same across all sports. Tennis is the most vocal - firstly why aren't they playing 5 sets like the men? - THey don't even try and compare on court time. it's just "Because She's worth it". L'Oreal have a shit load to answer for
their job is not to kick a soccerball. their job is to entertain people, sell attention to advertisers. if their job is to kick a soccerball, then they're fucking terrible. the top women's teams in the world lose to 13 year old boys. calling them equals as the men's world cup teams is an insult.
they're making 20%, but the men only get 7% of what they bring in. shit, either the men need to demand 20% also, or the women need to be cut down to 7%. anything less is blatant discrimination.
The fact that Men's World Cup and Women's World Cup are being considered the same job in the same office is the error in the logic.
If I make a video on Youtube I should make just as much money as
checks
T-Series and MrBeast.
It doesn't matter how many subscribers I have. It doesn't matter if I have subscribers. I need to be making just as much money as them, or Youtube is bigoted!
I think it's extremely misleading of you to not post the rest of his quote.
“But there are economic factors between the Premier League and the Championship and across sports at different levels. In our league the broadcast deal is a huge part of why the salaries are what they are and that determines what it’s possible to pay.”
What you just did made it sound like he is saying the opposite of what he is actually saying.
I am no fan of Gareth Southgate but don't purposefully take his quote out of context.
That's the kind of shit the mainstream media pulls.
He's a fucking retard with or without context, and even the "without context" part is him being a fuckwit.
Women don't deserve to be paid the same for doing the same job.
Nobody does.
because nobody is the same as everyone else. I highly fucking doubt, that you will find people who've worked for the same amount of years, put in the same amount of hours, same amount of effort, have the same punctuality, and the same various other things employers look at.
No intelligent employer is paying the laziest asshole on the job the same as their best workers, regardless of if they have the same job.
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. Based on that post I assumed he was just another idiot demanding 'equal pay'.
Still, while he might actually have a brain, plenty of others don't and there are many logical errors at play whenever the 'wage gap' is talked about.
Unless you think of it as the woman receiving years of professional training and still being outperformed by a 14 year old boy
Even if you grant same job at the same office the male colleague is producing/earning so much more for the company that he would 100% have a much higher wage or be able to negotiate for one, not to mention he would be up for promotions (fake ones to increase salary if he doesn't want the extra responsibility or normal ones).
While she can be considered lucky if they don't find a way to sue her for her abysmal work
It's like the AFLW begging for equality with AFL - when one generates literally 40 times more revenue than the other
It's like saying a Denny's waitress deserves the same pay as a waitress at a Chef Gordon Ramsay restaurant. It's the same job.
I found that hilarious. Women are still complaining even though they're making 3 TIMES as much as the men are on a percentage of total revenue basis. It sounds like the men should be complaining tbh.
In fact, the whole "equal pay for the 'same job'" mantra is completely ridiculous. The correct formulation is equal pay for equal value. Pay must be correlated to value added; anything else is an economic inefficiency and makes everyone poorer.
Women aren't even playing the same game. Seriously. The pitch size is different and the length of the hames are shorter.
Men never do. and get exploited because of it.
Literally every feminist cause for complaint for the last 20 years.
it's because it's not the same job. these women lose to 13 year old boys. their job isn't to kick a soccerball... it's to sell consumer attention to advertisers. and objectively they're much worse than the men.
Why are women not supporting their favorite women’s football teams?
Clearly women are to blame.
Nobody hates a woman more than another woman.
Now now, let's not be too hasty. Equal pay in soccer might be worth exploring.
Either men get paid less (they are pathetic leftists activists and teams don't represent the countries they play for anymore). Or the women's cup becomes a massive loss event for FIFA. Seems like a win-win.
Wouldn't that be karma.
Great advice. Sadly the whole 'wage gap' myth is built entirely on context-blind envy. They don't want what they're worth. They don't want what they can earn. They want what you have. They want what they perceive you have. And they want it for nothing.
15yo boys soccer teams should be paied more than professional women's soccer teams, because the former can obliterate the later.
If the men had any balls they'd go on strike until they get the same percentage of the profits as the women.
I'm guessing you'd start seeing FIFA commisioners floating face down in Obama's pond and the women would be rolled back to an "equal" 7 percent.
What’s that? Women ignoring objective reality? You don’t say. . .
When the women's team can beat the men's team in the FIFA World Cup, then they can get the big payout, which is actually the same work for the same pay.
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Honestly, kind of. This article isn't insinuating that women are inherently worth less compared to men. It's saying that the female teams don't make as much income for their soccer leagues as the men's soccer teams do.
Female soccer players are worth inherently less to their respective institutions than male soccer players.
That is a fair assessment, which isn't the same as the overall worth of women to humanity and society, as a 'class'.
How exactly does the mod team confirm if something is true or false? Do you have some kind of panel with experts on the subject debating it?
I get the intention, but this is not a good reason to ban posts; if it's wrong, the comments will let people know.
Normally it is based on what I can confirm, related to specific factoids. But, general "truth value" isn't what this rule is about.
That rule isn't meant to stop the spread of things that aren't true, but things that are not intentional falsehoods, or in another word: disinformation.
Something that isn't just untrue, or even objectively false, but objectively false to the point that the poster themselves is aware of the fact that what they are saying is false and is still repeating it as if it were true, with the intent to deceive.
This is normally demonstrated by getting a fact objectively wrong, normally from their own source contradicting them, or them sometimes even straight up admitting to it.
Opinions, to be clear, are simple opinions and aren't subject to this rule. Something has to be a specific factoid that is false, and being spread with malintent.
Noted. I'll take a look at the mod mail and get back to you within 10 hours. Post here if I didn't.
The truth is always in the comments