I'm surprised Imp hasn't brought up the white feather movement feminists did during WW1 by now..
The main 'war' the west needs to be concerned with is the war within, you have so many traitors, snakes and predators acting without restraint that you need both the punisher and Judge Dredd mentality to purge it.
Pacifists are traitors, not to mention idiots. Violence is both omnipresent and necessary. That said, the Ukraine brought the war on themselves, via the crossdressing jew comedian who serves as their current head of state attempting to annihilate Russian speakers in their east. 100% avoidable.
Absolute pacifists, perhaps. But there's nothing wrong with desiring peace, or trying to avoid pointless or non-beneficial violence.
Violence is both omnipresent and necessary.
Universally, yes. Doesn't mean every occurrence or proposal of violence is good or just, just because violence as a concept is universal and often necessary.
Saying "Violence is bad" is stupid. Saying "This violence is bad" is, more often than not, a correct statement.
Those who deny the necessity of violence try to make themselves good by being harmless. There is a very important distinction between the peaceful and the harmless, for the peaceful are capable of violence and make the choice to not be so. The harmless are weak and 'will suffer what they must' per Thucydides.
This isn't to say that peace is bad. As you say elsewhere, there's a difference between starting fights vs. ending them. The strongest and most morally warranted peacemaker is a veteran, who knows both the how and the cost of violence.
It may be semantics but it also looks why you started talking past each other, pacifist is by definition an exclusively absolute term. If you believe in using violence in any circumstances at all you're no longer a pacifist.
Everyone else is just different flavors of more or less violent.
The Ukrainian people didn't bring the war upon themselves. They are a puppet state for greater powers. They have little control over their own country. America/NATO is more responsible than any Ukrainian.
By that logic, the CIA coup never would have happened if we Americans had fought harder to have a less corrupt government. I get what you are saying, but this line of thinking ends up outsourcing blame for things the ruling class does onto the plebes.
I wouldn't say sat by. A lot of people resisted for a while. The problem was cutting through the lies, bullshit, and misdirection and over coming repression. That continues to this day.
I would. Know why? Because Joke Biden is still sitting in the white house fucking us over.
It's the basic principle of nationalism. The nation is the people. Among other things, one of the implications of this is that people get the government they deserve and will tolerate.
That bottom up view of society isn't correct. People get the government their ruling class wants. Your way of thinking pits plebe against plebe instead of plebe against ruling class. The former is not a threat to the system and is in fact encouraged by it.
Just look at kosher conservative media. It's how they frame things most of the time. They talk less about defeating the people financing the left than they do about demonizing rank-and-file (especially white) liberals. They rub their hands together when they get people talking about "muh white liberals" instead of "Jennifer" Pritzker.
I always find it funny that the same people who claim Israel is “apartheid” doesn’t realize that Islam was the “apartheid” that took over and attempted to genocide the Jews and Christians in Israel. The “Palestinians” are the descendants of a mass genocidal society.
I don't have anything against any forms of racial segregations, just riddle me this, why is Israel allowed to be an apartheid but you the white American have to be guilt tripped about segregation? As if the USA wasn't striving during that era.
But why though? Would they do it because they hate you for you are or just because your country support Israel? This is the other side of what I mean. Hamas likely only "cares about us" because we are citizens of a country supporting Israel.
Last time I checked, it wasn't Hamas which is causing the global fuckup in economics. It wasn't Hamas that made the tranny plague. It wasn't Hamas which is replacing our native populations across the globe with stinky third worlders.
the Houthi are our enemies and deserve to be exterminated.
Don't be a fucking idiot. "We" are part of the war against Yemen because our government is the Saudis little bitch, and they are going after Yemen's gold resources and oil/gas deposits.
I'm surprised Imp hasn't brought up the white feather movement feminists did during WW1 by now..
The main 'war' the west needs to be concerned with is the war within, you have so many traitors, snakes and predators acting without restraint that you need both the punisher and Judge Dredd mentality to purge it.
He brings it up all the time.
Nothing happened. It is the same as it was before your suspension.
What did you buy your mom for mother’s day?
He got suspended from here on mother's day. Maybe Dom has a sense of humor after all.
Maybe he hatched from an egg buried under sand.
The important part is you're back. Yes, I truly believe opposition and unique viewpoints to be essential to dialog.
Pacifists are traitors, not to mention idiots. Violence is both omnipresent and necessary. That said, the Ukraine brought the war on themselves, via the crossdressing jew comedian who serves as their current head of state attempting to annihilate Russian speakers in their east. 100% avoidable.
Absolute pacifists, perhaps. But there's nothing wrong with desiring peace, or trying to avoid pointless or non-beneficial violence.
Universally, yes. Doesn't mean every occurrence or proposal of violence is good or just, just because violence as a concept is universal and often necessary.
Saying "Violence is bad" is stupid. Saying "This violence is bad" is, more often than not, a correct statement.
Desiring peace and being a pacifist are very different things. Pacifists reject the necessity of violence.
Yeah, "Peaceful" just means you don't go around starting fights. Doesn't mean you aren't willing to finish one that someone starts with you.
A pacifist won't even defend itself, thinking that he has the higher moral ground ... as his head gets lopped off by his enemy.
I seem to recall Futurama nailing this. "Stop, you cannot pass!" "You're pacifists, what are you going to do to stop us?"
Those who deny the necessity of violence try to make themselves good by being harmless. There is a very important distinction between the peaceful and the harmless, for the peaceful are capable of violence and make the choice to not be so. The harmless are weak and 'will suffer what they must' per Thucydides.
This isn't to say that peace is bad. As you say elsewhere, there's a difference between starting fights vs. ending them. The strongest and most morally warranted peacemaker is a veteran, who knows both the how and the cost of violence.
Sic pacem, para bellum.
It may be semantics but it also looks why you started talking past each other, pacifist is by definition an exclusively absolute term. If you believe in using violence in any circumstances at all you're no longer a pacifist.
Everyone else is just different flavors of more or less violent.
The Ukrainian people didn't bring the war upon themselves. They are a puppet state for greater powers. They have little control over their own country. America/NATO is more responsible than any Ukrainian.
The CIA coup that installed zelensky absolutely would never have succeeded if the people had fought it.
By that logic, the CIA coup never would have happened if we Americans had fought harder to have a less corrupt government. I get what you are saying, but this line of thinking ends up outsourcing blame for things the ruling class does onto the plebes.
I agree. The American people sat by and permitted a takeover.
I wouldn't say sat by. A lot of people resisted for a while. The problem was cutting through the lies, bullshit, and misdirection and over coming repression. That continues to this day.
I would. Know why? Because Joke Biden is still sitting in the white house fucking us over.
It's the basic principle of nationalism. The nation is the people. Among other things, one of the implications of this is that people get the government they deserve and will tolerate.
That bottom up view of society isn't correct. People get the government their ruling class wants. Your way of thinking pits plebe against plebe instead of plebe against ruling class. The former is not a threat to the system and is in fact encouraged by it.
Just look at kosher conservative media. It's how they frame things most of the time. They talk less about defeating the people financing the left than they do about demonizing rank-and-file (especially white) liberals. They rub their hands together when they get people talking about "muh white liberals" instead of "Jennifer" Pritzker.
It's almost as if Hamas and the Houthi are our enemies and deserve to be exterminated.
I always find it funny that the same people who claim Israel is “apartheid” doesn’t realize that Islam was the “apartheid” that took over and attempted to genocide the Jews and Christians in Israel. The “Palestinians” are the descendants of a mass genocidal society.
I don't have anything against any forms of racial segregations, just riddle me this, why is Israel allowed to be an apartheid but you the white American have to be guilt tripped about segregation? As if the USA wasn't striving during that era.
Muslims aren't supposed to be genociding jews, but apartheid is part of Sharia. So I look at those things differently.
Is Hamas responsible for the economic dispossession, political disenfranchisement, and demographic replacement of white Americans?
No, and I think Hamas is an enemy but not the only enemy. I don't suppose that they like me/us/whatever.
They are not relevant to any white American. The only reason we even know who they are is because they are important to Jews.
Hamas would pay the family of the suicide bomber who took me out and celebrate it. Their reach is another question.
But why though? Would they do it because they hate you for you are or just because your country support Israel? This is the other side of what I mean. Hamas likely only "cares about us" because we are citizens of a country supporting Israel.
Hamas would still hate the United States even if Israel ceased to exist today.
These are massive hypotheticals we're entertaining, but Hamas would probably just stop existing if Israel did.
(((our))) enemies
Last time I checked, it wasn't Hamas which is causing the global fuckup in economics. It wasn't Hamas that made the tranny plague. It wasn't Hamas which is replacing our native populations across the globe with stinky third worlders.
It's almost as if...Hamas is not the bad guy.
How do we go from Israel/jews/Zionists are our enemy to Hamas is not?
Because Hamas are a bunch of retarded sandniggers who are not a threat to the Western world due to their inability to force project?
Leave them be, they're savages but they are entitled to their tiny amount of savage land.
We can always nuke them in the future if we have to.
Don't be a fucking idiot. "We" are part of the war against Yemen because our government is the Saudis little bitch, and they are going after Yemen's gold resources and oil/gas deposits.
This person is brain damaged.
She's an Irish politician so that goes without saying.