What do they expect when corrupt governments turn society into a criminal free for all? Vigilantism is a symptom. The government abandoning the people is the cause.
First of all, American are already a violent and revolutionary minded people (by comparison to Europe). Part of that comes from our pioneering heritage where there was no law, and the only thing that protected a man's family was the man himself.
The very nature of extracting justice from a wild and amoral world is something Americans have always embraced. When you create intentionally anti-moral hive-cities; Americans yearn to extract justice from the hell you've committed.
Neely, a 30-year-old unhoused street performer, died on May 1 after being choked out for 15 minutes by a former Marine named Daniel Penny. Video of the attack, posted on Facebook by freelance journalist Juan Alberto Vazquez, showed two other men assisting Penny as he choked Neely, and Neely’s limp body on the ground after Penny released him. Neely was later declared dead at a Manhattan hospital, and the city medical examiner said Neely died as a result of the chokehold, ruling his death a homicide.
Not one mention of the repeated violent crimes, this is rape shield laws for violent criminals now. Just because the whore was bent over every day, multiple times a day doesn’t bring relevance to the one time she cries rape! Just because the violent criminal assaulted a 60 year old lady the other week doesn’t mean his threats of violence meant anything this time!
The indifference to the death of a man who lived by all accounts a difficult life is part of a growing and disturbing strain of vigilantism in the U.S., following years of fear-mongering about crime in American cities and the dehumanization of unhoused people.
Don’t you dare say the violent criminals deserve their fate! They’re the real victims!
Vazquez told Curbed that before Penny put Neely in a chokehold, Neely had been screaming that “he didn’t have food, that he didn’t have water,” and “that he didn’t care about going to jail.” As Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, whose district includes Rikers Island, tweeted following Neely’s death: “We make living in jail easier than living out of it.”
Bold faced lie, the party that closed mental health facilities replaced it with prison and blamed conservatives.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has launched an investigation into Neely’s death. But there’s still a lot we don’t know about the lead-up to the events shown in Vazquez’s footage. Penny was released at the scene, and it took several days for his name to even be made public. In a statement, Penny’s attorneys said that Neely was “aggressively threatening” him and other passengers in the car, and that Penny and others “acted to protect themselves until help arrived.”
I'm not even kidding, Russia would probably be my backup plan as well in any legal shitshow scenario if I knew I could get Epsteined and the whole system was after me. I'm hoping that sticking to game dev will never put me in that sort of situation but you never know with how crazy things are now LOL. All it takes is for a few crazy people with the right connections and your life is fucked.
They know they're lying and they know we know they're lying, it's a valid question of why they will go out of their way to lie and protect these people. I think there's more than one underlying reason behind this aside from the fact that a bunch of these leftists are genuine useful idiots who really do believe he was just street performer and George Floyd was an innocent guy. I know how these people think thanks to what I have to put up with RL.
When the state abdicates its duty to inflict retribution on behalf of victims of crime, or even to curtail criminal behavior, then vigilantism becomes inevitable.
Of course, the state will treat vigilantism as the most serious offense, worse than murder or rape, because citizens taking the law into their own hands represents an immediate existential threat to the power of the state.
When conservatives vote for anti-crime policies, it’s not about cruelly inflicting pain for no reason. It’s about preventing the destruction of the social contract and the subsequent collapse of society. The state must deter and punish criminals. If it does not, then the state is illegitimate.
Vigilantes deal with the symptoms, but at some point, the disease must be addressed. Those who preclude any possibility of treating the disease peaceably with the threat of deadly force invariably make themselves just and moral targets of the same.
Of course, the state will treat vigilantism as the most serious offense, worse than murder or rape, because citizens taking the law into their own hands represents an immediate existential threat to the power of the state
Look at the way some of them responded to the rash of goofs in costumes that cropped up around 2010 or their responses to some of the 'victim solves own crime' ones.
It's not obsession, it's coming to terms with its inevitable necessity. Like gun ownership- scares the fuck out of me because I know if I screw up with it, myself or an innocent could get seriously hurt or worse. But seeing the way the world is going, it's goddamn necessary.
This is something we all got drilled into us from day one in martial arts, if you defend yourself, you have to be prepared for the consequences afterwards.
Batman, and really most superheroes, have been massive cultural icons and popular figures for nearly a century. Probably every one of them is a vigilante by some definition. The entire reason why Batman can't kill is because he has no legal power and if he did he would absolutely be tried and charged for it.
Vigilantism is one of the most powerful instincts humans have, the desire for justice. The entire purpose of the legal system as a fucking concept is to satiate that desire enough by promising to take care of it for them. And the more they fail at the one single job they have, the more pronounced the call for it will become.
Wait until these "vigilantes" realize that offing scumbag reporters would do just as much to reel in activist prosecutors as offing the prosecutors themselves.
Vigilante? That doesn't generally refer to someone actively stopping a guy from committing a crime. Because that is not law enforcement. It is what citizens are supposed to do. Vigilante means basically you are taking vengeance due to the absence of proper law enforcement, not just that the cops haven't gotten there yet.
What do they expect when corrupt governments turn society into a criminal free for all? Vigilantism is a symptom. The government abandoning the people is the cause.
Laws exist not only to protect the innocent but also to protect the accused. If we do away with enforcing the law then this is what happens.
Eventually, the normie realizes that he's not locked in the hive-city with the cirminals. The criminals are locked in the hive city with him.
Exactly.
First of all, American are already a violent and revolutionary minded people (by comparison to Europe). Part of that comes from our pioneering heritage where there was no law, and the only thing that protected a man's family was the man himself.
The very nature of extracting justice from a wild and amoral world is something Americans have always embraced. When you create intentionally anti-moral hive-cities; Americans yearn to extract justice from the hell you've committed.
Not one mention of the repeated violent crimes, this is rape shield laws for violent criminals now. Just because the whore was bent over every day, multiple times a day doesn’t bring relevance to the one time she cries rape! Just because the violent criminal assaulted a 60 year old lady the other week doesn’t mean his threats of violence meant anything this time!
Don’t you dare say the violent criminals deserve their fate! They’re the real victims!
Bold faced lie, the party that closed mental health facilities replaced it with prison and blamed conservatives.
Can’t let an opportunity go to waste huh Bragg?
Calling Neely an “unhoused street performer” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist.”
No mention of the video of the marine trying to save the felons life either.
This is disruptive behavior, and at best extremely impolite to do in an enclosed space where people can’t move away from you.
…aaaand, this part escalates it to a threat. Nice job undermining your own propaganda, Vice.
Didn't Reagan do it?
The ending of state sanitariums was a campaign from the academic left with the key “study” pushed by a now known fraud who at best manipulated data and used students as test subjects then excluded any positive results from self admission to a state hospital. Here’s a pretty solid breakdown on it https://nypost.com/2019/11/02/stanford-professor-who-changed-america-with-just-one-study-was-also-a-liar/
This guy can join Kyle Rittenhouse and Edward Snowden in the "no good deed goes unpunished" club.
He should join Snowden in Russia before NY’s leftist justice system puts him in prison for life.
I'm not even kidding, Russia would probably be my backup plan as well in any legal shitshow scenario if I knew I could get Epsteined and the whole system was after me. I'm hoping that sticking to game dev will never put me in that sort of situation but you never know with how crazy things are now LOL. All it takes is for a few crazy people with the right connections and your life is fucked.
Basically a saint and not one that was arrested more then 40 times and was violent.
Also if you are pushing for defund the police are you surprised that vigilantism becomes popular?
Why do leftist gather around people like this guy or George Floyd or worse, the pedo that Kyle killed in self-defense?
They know they're lying and they know we know they're lying, it's a valid question of why they will go out of their way to lie and protect these people. I think there's more than one underlying reason behind this aside from the fact that a bunch of these leftists are genuine useful idiots who really do believe he was just street performer and George Floyd was an innocent guy. I know how these people think thanks to what I have to put up with RL.
When the state abdicates its duty to inflict retribution on behalf of victims of crime, or even to curtail criminal behavior, then vigilantism becomes inevitable.
Of course, the state will treat vigilantism as the most serious offense, worse than murder or rape, because citizens taking the law into their own hands represents an immediate existential threat to the power of the state.
When conservatives vote for anti-crime policies, it’s not about cruelly inflicting pain for no reason. It’s about preventing the destruction of the social contract and the subsequent collapse of society. The state must deter and punish criminals. If it does not, then the state is illegitimate.
I truly dread having to say this.
If justified defense of self or others from violent repeat offenders becomes a crime, then it's time for vigilantism to graduate to the next step.
Vigilantes deal with the symptoms, but at some point, the disease must be addressed. Those who preclude any possibility of treating the disease peaceably with the threat of deadly force invariably make themselves just and moral targets of the same.
Look at the way some of them responded to the rash of goofs in costumes that cropped up around 2010 or their responses to some of the 'victim solves own crime' ones.
The state has been illegitimate for a while now.
It's not obsession, it's coming to terms with its inevitable necessity. Like gun ownership- scares the fuck out of me because I know if I screw up with it, myself or an innocent could get seriously hurt or worse. But seeing the way the world is going, it's goddamn necessary.
This is something we all got drilled into us from day one in martial arts, if you defend yourself, you have to be prepared for the consequences afterwards.
>defund the police!
>abolish prison time for theft!
>America Is Obsessed With Vigilantism
You must pick a minimum of two.
I call it "decentralized community policing".
Batman, and really most superheroes, have been massive cultural icons and popular figures for nearly a century. Probably every one of them is a vigilante by some definition. The entire reason why Batman can't kill is because he has no legal power and if he did he would absolutely be tried and charged for it.
Vigilantism is one of the most powerful instincts humans have, the desire for justice. The entire purpose of the legal system as a fucking concept is to satiate that desire enough by promising to take care of it for them. And the more they fail at the one single job they have, the more pronounced the call for it will become.
Wait until these "vigilantes" realize that offing scumbag reporters would do just as much to reel in activist prosecutors as offing the prosecutors themselves.
So Vice wants us to be sitting ducks?
They want you dead.
dirty harry and the punisher didn't arise out of a vacuum.
I thought these people loved super heroes and the ideas of cleaning up a society that has succumbed to so much corruption and decay?
Then when they finally enter the world they fantasized about suddenly it's "Nooo!! You can't just take vigilante justice into your own hands!!!" ??
Vigilante? That doesn't generally refer to someone actively stopping a guy from committing a crime. Because that is not law enforcement. It is what citizens are supposed to do. Vigilante means basically you are taking vengeance due to the absence of proper law enforcement, not just that the cops haven't gotten there yet.