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– Smith1980 43 points 3 years ago +43 / -0

Beats the modern day western obsession with having women be fat and ugly in the name of empowerment

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– Raos044 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Fat, ugly and bitchy.

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– SoctaticMethod1 35 points 3 years ago +35 / -0

Reminds me a bit of Nier automata's designer where he wanted to give 2B bigger boobs, he got rejected so he focused all his attention on her ass instead and well, there's a reason a lot of gamers used ladders a lot...

Men and women like looking at hot women, Japan still understands this it's why they get the money and Western entertainment is so focused on 'the message' that they keep trying to convince people a land whale is sexy.

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– MegoThor 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Nier: Automata; come for the robot rear ends, stay for the soul-crushing depression.

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– trump4044 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I need to finish that game. The difficulty at the beginning really put me off.

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– kinezumi 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I figured there had to be a reason it was so detailed. I just played through the game for the first time and never have I seen such a detailed back end on a female character. Well, not since P.N.03 on the Cube.

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– SoctaticMethod1 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

The key designer, Yoko Taro (bit crazy, wears a mask all the time) when the game released, there was 'controversy' since A LOT of R34 was made of 2B thanks to her design

So what did this mad man do? He said it was hard to find it individually so asked the Internet to send him zip files so he can distribute it evenly every week.

And the Internet complied lol

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– Cyberguy64 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Important note. Yoko wears a full head mask of one of his characters, a spherical, grinning skull. Not a maskoid mask. Important difference in brands of crazy

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– SoctaticMethod1 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

You are very right, Yoko is the kind of crazy it's a blast to be around and you know you'll have a fun time

The 'other' mask guys are crazy in terms of being insufferable

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– Skywise 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It’s why I played ffxiii-2 as Serah… in her beach outfit!

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– CronosMaximum 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Reminds me a bit of Nier automata's designer where he wanted to give 2B bigger boobs, he got rejected so he focused all his attention on her ass instead and well, there's a reason a lot of gamers used ladders a lot...

https://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/post/158544127866/yoko-taro-on-why-nier-automata-protagonist-2b

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– Kweebecker 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And the tumblrites whinge and whine.

That brings me back...

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– dekachin 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

He just said he doesn't do panty shots because it's non-consensual. Dumb comment. They're drawings, they're not real. He just took a normal sentiment and tried to make it sound feminist for no reason.

The correct answer would have been "I like drawing big tits. I'm not into panties, plus I find panty shots a little creepy because 'upskirt' things in real life are non-consensual and criminal, so I'd rather focus on having a woman's clothes come off without her consent, causing all men in her vicinity to pass out from the blood rapidly rushing to their massive throbbing erections."

btw "happiness punch" means Nami's clothes fall off and every dude around her gets knocked out as described above.

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– GeronimoJackson 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

He used to say something akin to: 'Fuck off I like drawing women this way. This story is a boy's fantasy.' I wonder if he's got an editor or a publisher leaning on him now.

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– CronosMaximum 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Subs like mendrawingwomen and bikiniarmorbattledamage no matter how feminist his sentiment is will still blast him anyways

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– MLGS 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

I hope the samurai spirit continues to resist the Western urge to make it illegal to like hot women.

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– OmegaBird 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

One piece is one if the most popular works of fiction in the past half century. I'm pretty sure Oda knows what he is doing and anyone who calls him out is an idiot.

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– -Fender- 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

You can still criticize some decisions.

For example, I personally strongly disliked the character "Yamato". The design is fine, but she basically just came out of nowhere with no previous mention before they got on skull island, and then seemed to be pandering to troons by having her call herself "Oden", referring to herself as a man, and trying to pretend that it was fine for her to just go in the men's side of the bathhouse "because she's a man", with half the cast finding it perfectly reasonable.

I am glad that he ended up not adding her to the crew, but the whole mess around her character was enough for me to basically stop keeping up with the series and its fairly slow pace. I might go back to it in a year or two, when there will have been more development.

Those tyrannical pedos trying to force society to accept their advances on children have made me strongly react negatively every time I see promotion of this degeneracy, even in fiction.

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– dzonatan 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Mate, no.

Yamato is as much pandering to troons as Ivankov is, that is not at all.

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– magyar_warrior 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

still, anime gender bending is a very easy access for troon entryism

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– dzonatan 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Degenerate modern definition of "trans person" means jack shit.

I don't quite recall which post wano chapter was it but I do remember some panels where Yamato wanted to join SH and Luffy flat out said to her that he doesn't want a faker/poser on his crew to which she just nod and accept.

Her "transness" is nothing more than her fanboyism toward Oden and the manga doesnt even try to hide it.

People can take their interpretations and shove them up where sunshine does not reach.

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– -Fender- 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Explain the bath scene. I keep coming back to this, because this is flat out an example where there is a clear demarcation between whether she considers herself a man or a woman. Her words were that she couldn't go in the women's bath, "because there is no mixed bathing in the castle". So she went in the men's bath.

If other people's interpretations don't matter, and only yours does, then explain that one.

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– dzonatan 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Because it's a Japanese work made by a japanese man with japanese mentality behind it.

In Japan, there's this thing called honne tatamae. It's a complex phenomenon that can be roughly described as keeping your opinions to yourself in order to not start a scene. It's sort of like political correctness except not pathological and has limit to it.

Put two and two together and you can figure out that the main cast is putting up with Yamato's antics because they don't want to cause a scene, especially since most of them are recuperating from a death battle and they're still technically outside invaders.

But when Yamato tries to push her shit on Luffy's ship, on his turf, that's when he doesn't need to put up a front anymore and tells Yamato straight up to cut with her bullshit.

This is what you get when you try to project western sensibilities on a eastern cultural product.

No. One Piece is not a international product and Oda certainly doesn't take hints from west on how to push his series. If that were not the case then Ivankov wouldn't be the joke he is.

Japanese mentality is delightfully stuck few decades behind the west and thank god for that.

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– -Fender- 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You're making uncorroborated assumptions. Go back and read it. Luffy is repeatedly calling Yamato "Yamabro". Although I acknowledge that that's likely a localization by a potentially politically-inclined translator rather than Luffy's actual words, it still tells me that Luffy is calling her by a nickname that implies familiarity (and possibly a reference to masculinity) in the original Japanese. If you have a better translation for the original text, I'd be interested to hear it.

But not only that, there is no point in the epilogue of that arc that Luffy even implies that he disagrees with what Yamato's saying and doing. He even invites her on his ship, which he definitely wouldn't do if he was losing patience with her antics. You're suggesting that Luffy thinks things that he never actually shows through words or actions.

But even if Luffy thought what you claim he thinks, it still wouldn't change the fact that Yamato herself thinks that she can be a man if she wants to be a man, which is shown unambiguously through her own actions. This is how Oda chose to portray her. He chose to make her a transtrender. And that is a decision that I disagree with, to the point that it soured me on the story itself, which was my original point. Nothing you have said, through your many paragraphs of text and numerous responses, have contradicted this.

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... continue reading thread?
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– tensigh 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The man knows his audience.

I saw a YT video with American comic writers and all they could think of for stories was (their words) queer relationships between major characters. They somehow thought this was a.) what audiences wanted and b.) good writing.

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– CronosMaximum 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

This show has been shit on for a while by feminists https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=0edSnZnQv0g

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– Steampunk_Moustache 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

The bit at 5:30 is basically emblematic of her blindness. She seems to disbelieve the idea that teenage boys are less likely to write letters their favorite mangaka.

If she had grown up male, Oda's words would immediately ring true, but she didn't and so she genuinely can't wrap her head around the idea. It's so bizarre to her that she says 'granted, this is Japan' and accepts that things might be different over there. No, woman. It's not 'Japan'.

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– CronosMaximum 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

People complain how attractive women in one piece when shows like free! exist

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– Kweebecker 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Disregard gender. Embrace fan service.

True fujoshits are welcome, as are anyone else, who genuinely love the medium and wish only to enjoy it in the manner which it is already produced.

They want their yaoi-bait stripper-guys? Sure. They've got their content. We have ours. And we don't fuck with each other. Even though fucking each other would probably solve a lot of problems.

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– magyar_warrior 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Sex appeal is a feminine symbol of power because in nature women are the gatekeepers of sex. Femcels feel powerless because they have no sex appeal and as a result can't relate to characters like Nami, which is why they want to uglify all women to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

Feminine beauty has also been traditionally upheld in art for a long time, and one of the major pillars of cultural marxism has been to undermine and destroy western civilization starting with its traditional values.

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– LinkR 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The non-Euclidean eldritch body types in that franchise always made the fanservice a little jarring for me. Like, I like it as much as the next guy, but seeing a normal human standing next to someone shaped like a fucking fridge just mindfucks the world building for me.

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– Assassin47 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes I cannot get into One Piece primarily because of the art style and weird body types. I also do not like long never-ending series in general, but the character designs were the first turn off.

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– LinkR 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The weird art style started so normal too. Then as it went on it got more and more.. experimental. Like the author started getting bored of it too and just wanted to see what he could get away with.

Also yeah, I hate big stories never fucking go anywhere. Feels like kind of a bait and switch. Like a slap for daring to get invested from the beginning. Funny enough, Gilligan's Isle of all things kinda red pilled me to that sort of shit. Made me much more warry of giving a fuck about the conclusion that may never even happen.

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– CronosMaximum 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This is gonna start a shitstorm on mendrawingwomen and twitter, isnt it?

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– trump4044 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And the feminazi or right wing puritan replacements replacements. We mustn't forget that dire reality.

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– CronosMaximum 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

https://teddit.net/r/mendrawingwomen/comments/11tdrpj/oda_one_of_the_most_hated_ppl_on_this_sub_talking/

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

One piece is cucked. One of the main characters, Usopp, is a jew. He has curly black hair, thick lips, a long nose, a love of money, and is cowardly. He's an outright caricature of a jew. Oda still turns make Usopp into some kind of hero. Not cool.

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– Assassin47 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Eight dimensional chess maybe? In the lore there is a cabal of wealthy families that run the world behind the scenes.

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– magyar_warrior 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

wignat moment

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– LinkR 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's been YEARS since I saw the show, but I really don't remember him being any more interested in money than anyone else. If anything, they just got off on how big their bounties are. Also, uh... I know the big nose Jewish stereotype, but that thing he's sporting looks nothing like that. I concede he is a weird looking man, but compared to many many others in the series, he would win some beauty pageants.

I'm not one to talk, but touch grass my friend.

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