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posted 3 years ago by Wizard08 3 years ago by Wizard08 +55 / -0
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– IlhansBrother 45 points 3 years ago +45 / -0

Political censorship should forfeit a company section 230 immunity.

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– MargarineMongoose 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

It should forfeit a lot more than that.

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– nuggetpatrol 34 points 3 years ago +34 / -0

Pointing out what others do is against the TOS?

Is it okay when they do it?

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– ghostfox1_ 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

It's (d)ifferent for some reason.

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– MLGS 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Leftists post things we do to direct hostile mobs at us and lie about it, so they assume we're doing the same thing when one of us links to a video we were never intended to see.

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– nuggetpatrol 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If it's on the internet, someone's going to see it. I know that seems obvious, but we are talking about the left.

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– MLGS 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

They genuinely think they can keep their propaganda in front of people who won't punch holes in it.

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– dekachin 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

Sue Slack on breach of contract, on the grounds that LoTT did not actually violate the policy, with said policy representing a promise by Slack to LoTT that LoTT could not be terminated so long as LoTT did not violate, and LoTT relied on that promise in investing time and resources into developing content under Slack, and therefore Slack breached its promise/contract by terminating without a clear violation of the policy.

Then let a jury decide whether LoTT actually broke the rules or not. Try to sue in the "reddest" county possible.

Tech companies tend to treat their EULAs as "we get to do whatever the fuck we want for any reason" but that's not actually how things work in the real, legal world in business to business transactions. Companies sue and counter sue over terminations and alleged violations of EULAs and shit like that all the time. Consumers are too poor to actually fight back, but companies whose business relies on these services do.

LoTT should have no problem fundraising for a lawsuit. John Stossel is suing facebook for its censorship of him.

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– user20461 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

As long as they have the "we can ban you for whatever reason at whatever time" clause, and people agree to it, it's always going to be stacked against the user.

If "RWers" weren't such cucks who refused to support Alt-Tech and refused to boycott Big Tech, we probably would have legitimate alternatives that could compete.

I'm rooting for guys like Andrew Torba to create the parallel economy but, at the same time, he's not the right leader and he's too busy building dumb shit like his new AI Image Generator bot.

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– TriangleGang 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly. EULAs and Terms of Use are a contract between you and the service. Contracts bind both parties, and in order to be valid, both parties must derive benefit.

Given that public figures have a reputational interest in their access to these services and others have business models that rely on them, there's real money at stake which gives rise to a cause of action when the website software provider breaks the terms.

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– trump4044 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Centralized services are never your friend.

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– when_we_win_remember 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Is "permanent suspension" some sort of legal dodging or are they just cunts afraid to ban anyone?

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– realerfunction 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

they should clearly be able to provide the exact posts that led to the ban.

but they can't. they never can.

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– MuffyMangina 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Who's organizing the retaliation?

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– Skywise 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Wait... people use Slack socially?!

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– deleted 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0
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– voidposter 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Yeah, but normies aren't gonna use IRC, these are more self-hostable modern/familiar alternatives:

https://mattermost.com

https://zulip.com

https://matrix.org/ (less user friendly but arguably the future)

https://revolt.chat (Don't know much about this one)

But then again, nor are they gonna self-host anything. There's probably an untapped market of just setting these services up for people.

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– MargarineMongoose 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Normies shouldn't be on the fucking internet. Infiltrate the ISPs and build an empire that excludes them.

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– redman012 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

That would work if retail stores and restaurants didn't exist. Normies work at those and the internet makes those jobs like 100x easier

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– voidposter 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

With docker it's super easy now. I run it on my server behind traefik

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

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