Leftists post things we do to direct hostile mobs at us and lie about it, so they assume we're doing the same thing when one of us links to a video we were never intended to see.
Sue Slack on breach of contract, on the grounds that LoTT did not actually violate the policy, with said policy representing a promise by Slack to LoTT that LoTT could not be terminated so long as LoTT did not violate, and LoTT relied on that promise in investing time and resources into developing content under Slack, and therefore Slack breached its promise/contract by terminating without a clear violation of the policy.
Then let a jury decide whether LoTT actually broke the rules or not. Try to sue in the "reddest" county possible.
Tech companies tend to treat their EULAs as "we get to do whatever the fuck we want for any reason" but that's not actually how things work in the real, legal world in business to business transactions. Companies sue and counter sue over terminations and alleged violations of EULAs and shit like that all the time. Consumers are too poor to actually fight back, but companies whose business relies on these services do.
LoTT should have no problem fundraising for a lawsuit. John Stossel is suing facebook for its censorship of him.
As long as they have the "we can ban you for whatever reason at whatever time" clause, and people agree to it, it's always going to be stacked against the user.
If "RWers" weren't such cucks who refused to support Alt-Tech and refused to boycott Big Tech, we probably would have legitimate alternatives that could compete.
I'm rooting for guys like Andrew Torba to create the parallel economy but, at the same time, he's not the right leader and he's too busy building dumb shit like his new AI Image Generator bot.
Exactly. EULAs and Terms of Use are a contract between you and the service. Contracts bind both parties, and in order to be valid, both parties must derive benefit.
Given that public figures have a reputational interest in their access to these services and others have business models that rely on them, there's real money at stake which gives rise to a cause of action when the website software provider breaks the terms.
Slack doesn't do anything IRC doesn't already do, and you can run your own IRC server, thereby freeing yourself from all corporate censorship.
People are going to figure out eventually that all services that require relying on someone else running the actual servers that service runs on are too much of a risk to free speech.
Yea, in the early 2000s during the heyday of the blogosphere more tech savy bloggers were setting up open source wordpress sites for the less tech savy.
I might try and see if I can get matrix set up at home, I have a linux box with ubuntu server on it that I am using to tinker with owncloud.
I wonder wat they got on Elon to just to get him to go from “I got a huge dick and can say whatever the fuck I want” to silent as fuck on all Twitter proceedings.
Political censorship should forfeit a company section 230 immunity.
It should forfeit a lot more than that.
Pointing out what others do is against the TOS?
Is it okay when they do it?
It's (d)ifferent for some reason.
Leftists post things we do to direct hostile mobs at us and lie about it, so they assume we're doing the same thing when one of us links to a video we were never intended to see.
If it's on the internet, someone's going to see it. I know that seems obvious, but we are talking about the left.
They genuinely think they can keep their propaganda in front of people who won't punch holes in it.
Sue Slack on breach of contract, on the grounds that LoTT did not actually violate the policy, with said policy representing a promise by Slack to LoTT that LoTT could not be terminated so long as LoTT did not violate, and LoTT relied on that promise in investing time and resources into developing content under Slack, and therefore Slack breached its promise/contract by terminating without a clear violation of the policy.
Then let a jury decide whether LoTT actually broke the rules or not. Try to sue in the "reddest" county possible.
Tech companies tend to treat their EULAs as "we get to do whatever the fuck we want for any reason" but that's not actually how things work in the real, legal world in business to business transactions. Companies sue and counter sue over terminations and alleged violations of EULAs and shit like that all the time. Consumers are too poor to actually fight back, but companies whose business relies on these services do.
LoTT should have no problem fundraising for a lawsuit. John Stossel is suing facebook for its censorship of him.
As long as they have the "we can ban you for whatever reason at whatever time" clause, and people agree to it, it's always going to be stacked against the user.
If "RWers" weren't such cucks who refused to support Alt-Tech and refused to boycott Big Tech, we probably would have legitimate alternatives that could compete.
I'm rooting for guys like Andrew Torba to create the parallel economy but, at the same time, he's not the right leader and he's too busy building dumb shit like his new AI Image Generator bot.
Exactly. EULAs and Terms of Use are a contract between you and the service. Contracts bind both parties, and in order to be valid, both parties must derive benefit.
Given that public figures have a reputational interest in their access to these services and others have business models that rely on them, there's real money at stake which gives rise to a cause of action when the website software provider breaks the terms.
Slack doesn't do anything IRC doesn't already do, and you can run your own IRC server, thereby freeing yourself from all corporate censorship.
People are going to figure out eventually that all services that require relying on someone else running the actual servers that service runs on are too much of a risk to free speech.
Yeah, but normies aren't gonna use IRC, these are more self-hostable modern/familiar alternatives:
https://mattermost.com
https://zulip.com
https://matrix.org/ (less user friendly but arguably the future)
https://revolt.chat (Don't know much about this one)
But then again, nor are they gonna self-host anything. There's probably an untapped market of just setting these services up for people.
Normies shouldn't be on the fucking internet. Infiltrate the ISPs and build an empire that excludes them.
That would work if retail stores and restaurants didn't exist. Normies work at those and the internet makes those jobs like 100x easier
Yea, in the early 2000s during the heyday of the blogosphere more tech savy bloggers were setting up open source wordpress sites for the less tech savy.
I might try and see if I can get matrix set up at home, I have a linux box with ubuntu server on it that I am using to tinker with owncloud.
With docker it's super easy now. I run it on my server behind traefik
Centralized services are never your friend.
I wonder wat they got on Elon to just to get him to go from “I got a huge dick and can say whatever the fuck I want” to silent as fuck on all Twitter proceedings.
It happened super suddenly in my opinion.
Edit: nvm not twitter
Is "permanent suspension" some sort of legal dodging or are they just cunts afraid to ban anyone?
they should clearly be able to provide the exact posts that led to the ban.
but they can't. they never can.
Who's organizing the retaliation?
Wait... people use Slack socially?!