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We have the identity of Crowder's Big Con contract (www.youtube.com)
posted 3 years ago by TheModernDaVinci 3 years ago by TheModernDaVinci +46 / -0
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– TheModernDaVinci [S] 38 points 3 years ago +38 / -0

Whoever had "Daily Wire" as their culprit, please come collect your winnings.

Linked is a video of Jeremy Boreing, CEO of Daily Wire, going through the contract line by line and explaining it, with his ultimate response boiling down to "He seems to have misunderstood the contract and how good it is for him." At least in the comments, it seems like not a lot of people are buying it.

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– YesMovement 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

It takes him 30 mins to hit the part that everyone was upset about.

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– deleted 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0
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– fauxgnaws 40 points 3 years ago +40 / -0

If they want Crowder to get docked for demonetization they should pay him as a cut of advertisements. Where's the clause where if Crowder expands his advertisement revenue by 2x from having a great show he gets paid more?

Instead their plan is to spam ads for two years, take the lion's share of the profits, and dump him or 'renegotiate' after his audience flees. Basically a leveraged buyout; buy the company, extract all the value, then bankrupt it and move on.

It's actually much worse than I thought:

  • lose 25% if advertising revenue drops 50%
  • lose 25% if any "major" platform demonetizes the channel or maybe even a single video
  • lose 20% if youtube bans his videos
  • lose 20% if Apple bans his podcast
  • lose 10% if Facebook bans his account
  • lose 10% if Spotify bans his podcast

So if just Apple cancels him then he's out 45% even though Daily Wire is still making probably 95% as much as before. That's a huge risk for Crowder to take. This adds up to Crowder getting -10% of his Fee if he gets Alex Jones'd.

And that's without considering any scheming like making him read ad copy for something they know Apple will ban, for instance Daily Wire getting ad revenue from PornHub and also $25 million they don't have to pay Crowder.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– fauxgnaws 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

They could have said if he gets a channel banned then his fee is reduced by the percent that channel contributed to revenue. They could have guaranteed him a smaller amount worst case, like 5% of the fee if he gets Jones'd.

Apple podcasts are clearly not 50% of revenue. They don't believe that, nobody believes that.

So they made him an opening offer that's fundamentally insulting to his intelligence and they're upset that he called them out.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– fauxgnaws 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Fair point, but they could peg it to the ratio at signing the contract. It might be off by a lot after a while but ultimately the point of it is so that neither party wants to get a channel banned.

Instead Daily Wire made an offer where they profit from Crowder getting a channel banned, right from the start.

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– TheModernDaVinci [S] 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

I think that is fair on the penalties. But there the contract sounds like would have have done a lot to tie Crowders hands. Though perhaps not as much as originally fear.

Honestly, I have no strong feelings on the matter. I just know it was something that people were speculating on where he got the contract from, and Daily Wire fessed up. So I guess kudos for them owning it, I can at least respect that.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Here's the problem with anything on Demonitization:

It's not possible to protect against it. Following the rules does not work. Rules are changed and enforced differently without warning. In a normal world, we could assume that even a strict standard could be applied fairly. If you know what violates the rules, and then you still do it, well that's on you.

Crowder has been repeatedly demonitized for innocuous things. Remember when the word "Ivermectine" was banned on all social media platforms across the US without warning as "medical misinformation"? Remember how he put out a study that showed that Ivermectine was capable to treating Covid and that scientific paper was rescinded by the journal that published it because he cited it? Remember how Kari Lake said the 2020 election was stolen on his show, so he got hit with a strike? Remember how you can be demonitized for off-platform behavior?

I don't care what your fucking clause is regarding demonitization. Don't punish me for something I can't control.

Getting rid of those clauses doesn't make advertiser boycotts stop working

Yeah. That's because the advertisers are the fucking enemy. NO conservative platform should be using advertising income. The advertising oligopoly is as institutional to the cathedral as the financial oligopoly. The Daily Wire should have a major income stream through advertising.

The advertisers don't care that some fuckheads on twitter are boycotting. The Advertiser Boycots are arranged by the fucking oligopoly themselves. Not only does DW fucking know this because they've been attacked by it, they have decided to accept that and run with "that's just how things work".

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Don't worry, I'm not accusing you of fanboying anyone.

The problem here, as Crowder went on to say himself, is the entire monetary model itself. What Crowder is asking for is for DW to be independent of a financial structure that is hell bent on destroying everyone in the conservative space that doesn't play ball, and DW is designed explicitly to play ball. DW has no choice but to get in bed with Big Tech, but to get in bed with Big Tech at the behest of Big Advertising. If you want to make Matt Walsh say "Trans Women Are Women", all Interfax has to do is make one phone call, and Matt Walsh is either apologizing on Twitter for his Transphobia, he's announcing his resignation from The Daily Wire, or The Daily Wire closes.

Where I think he crossed the line was instead of presenting this as a struggle that affects every facet of conservative media today,

Not only does it effect Conservative media today, it's been an ongoing problem for the past 70 years, we can take this sumbitch back to William F. Buckley. This attachment to the institutions that run the deepest part of the Cathedral is what fucking kills you. Especially when you tie your wallet to it. This is how the corruption works. You want to know why the right always backs down, this kind of thing is precisely why.

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– dagthegnome 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I hate the stormfags as much as the next non-fed on here, but this contract is still predatory, and Boering's prevarications only further demonstrate that he knows that.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Oh come the fuck on. Besides Impy, AoV, & DrJester, they hate me #4 on that list, and even I can see the problem with his logic.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Advertiser boycotts DO work though. The corporate uniparty is deathly afraid that the public will realize this, so their controlled shills never push for boycotts.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I haven't watched any of these videos, but this is a contract from Daily Wire to Crowder?

Why would Crowder expect it to be fair to him? Daily Wire lawyers wrote it. Their fiduciary responsibility is to Daily Wire. They don't care if Crowder lives or dies.

We've all seen It's a Wonderful Life: this is Potter offering George Bailey the job provided he shutters Bailey Savings and Loan. Gee, I wonder why he wants to do that?

And I don't even hold Crowder in that high a regard: he's closer to a loan shark than a savings and loan.

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– bloodguard 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

What do I win!?

Truth told I'm ambivalent about both sides in this dog fight. As per usual the controversy is more entertaining than their content. Pass the popcorn.

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– TheModernDaVinci [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Unfortunately, due to budget cuts from woke cancelation attempts, we can only offer you a button that plays this clip when pressed.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yup. I knew it was gonna be them, even over The Blaze. Ben Shapiro's trying to be the William F. Buckley of this generation, with The Daily Wire replacing The Nation.

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– user20461 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

I think they're all grifters.

The only way they help is if our politicians didn't sell us out and our elections weren't rigged.

Since that's not the case, they're just monetizing our movement with no actual intention of advancing our causes.

I don't care about "winning minds over" or "optics;" we're way past that at this point.

I'd give my money to someone who was organizing us and preparing us for a revolution.

If you look at someone like Hitler, he wrote a book while imprisoned, inspired millions, and then used that to organize them into political action. In the end, he had to betray the system to ultimately accomplish his goals, but I think all of us know that "playing by the rules" hasn't gotten us anywhere and the opposition breaks the rules all the time.

To sum it up, I don't trust any of them and they'd sooner sell you down the river than they would do anything to advance our cause.

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– Brennus 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I like that they keep emphasizing $50 million is what they offered him but that would have been 50 million over four years and mug club brings in like 30 million a year which they would get if he signed the contract and not him on top of all the poison pills for demonitization and if he missed shows due to illness. That 50mil over 4 years wouldn’t go straight into crowders pockets either. he has his own staff and contractors to pay on top of payroll tax and facilities maintenance.

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– elleand202 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I'm not surprised that its the Daily Wire. All of their creators are incredibly milquetoast. So it makes sense that its contractually enforced.

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– FutaCumDiet 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Daily Wire is acting like they're doing Crowder a favor by signing him onto their... network(?) and not that Crowder is doing them a favor by bringing in millions of users.

"We're give you money, but we also get control of your social media and any mistake we make comes out of your paycheck and also you have to pay for this circus." Get out of here, you hymie fuck.

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– Rezlung 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I’m watching Rekieta watch this video right now

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– Assassin47 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

You should stream yourself watching Rekieta watch the video.

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– NotAGlowy 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have to be honest. I had a suspicion it was Ben Shapiro try to rip him off…

But this contract seems very fair. (I am 50% of the way through this video)

Steven clearly avoided the normal healthy back and forth and guess what - didn’t understand the terms…

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– LeRiverDanube 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Can't watch dw without the fucking ad plays.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Money talks and ideology walks.

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– deleted 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

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