Vania Rolon, co-author and statistics analyzer, said the research team found incels score a higher tendency for interpersonal victimhood.
“(Interpersonal victimhood) is this idea that you are a victim, that the world keeps wronging you and no one takes your struggle seriously,” Rolon said.
Is strange someone would admit it. Is hard to find anything they apply to incels that does not apply to women. The fear men will rape them and that the world is filled with glass ceilings.
The only difference is that women are being pampered by society while incels are demonized.
The number of incels will only continue to grow as the level of female hypergamy only continues to increase. Gen Z women might surprisingly be even worse than millenial women when it comes to hypergamy.
The truth is that all young women and many older women score high on interpersonal victimhood.
The only difference is that society is very gynocentric so woman are universally praised for exhibiting interpersonal victimhood while men are outright mocked and shamed if they do so.
Western society is vile in that it judges the entire value of men on how much sex they are having. So many incels have serious mental health problems because they feel immensely frustrated that they are having no sex at all
The red pill movement attempted to help incels increase their sexual marketplace value.
It may have helped a few incels break out of inceldom but for many, self development is just not going to change their overall position thanks to hypergamy.
Societal instability will accelerate as more and more men are relegated to being incels.
The only difference is that society is very gynocentric so woman are universally praised for exhibiting interpersonal victimhood while men are outright mocked and shamed if they do so.
Straight, White men are shamed for doing so.
Black man has interpersonal victimhood? Das right!
Jewish man has interpersonal victimhood? Of course! Look at history. Jewish people are ALWAYS victimized.
Gay man has interpersonal victimhood? Makes sense, look at what "the community" has been through.
Not disagreeing that women don't get MORE of a pass than the men of their respective groups but society does extend this sympathy to SOME men.
but all preferential treatment ends when an individual of a protected group is an incel
Not if the dude in question is pretending to be a woman. Like all crimes against feminism it's only a problem for them if the perp in lower on the progressive pecking order than the victim.
Look at the adjectives you had to put before the word man. Those are what do it, not because they are men. I would argue that they still get less sympathy than women even with these adjectives.
Societal instability will accelerate as more and more men are relegated to being incels.
This point needs to be given a great deal more attention than it gets. When men have no prospects, they have no reason to put in any effort or contribute. Society will fall apart if enough men stop contributing, but no one seems to be concerned about that.
I disagree that it's women's hypergamy increasing, rather I would posit that it's no longer subject to any culturally imposed limitations. This is obviously going to lead to disaster, but the cultural attitude now is that ever telling a woman "no" is a sin. Society is going to go up in flames before this all corrected and it keeps me up at night.
Do you know any Gen Z girls? Hypergamy has reached critical mass among this age cohort.
They are some of the most entitled, hypocritical, narcissistic, indoctrinated and just downright vile human beings ever to live.
If your only options are dating and God forbid then marrying one of these girls versus being a depressed incel, being a depressed incel doesn't seem that bad in comparison.
You are absolutely correct about the severe magnitude of the overall societal threat that the rise in the incel phenomenon presents.
I am definitely not looking forward to what inevitably will happen in the future.
Hypergamy has reached critical mass among this age cohort.
Yes, but as u/MargarineMongoose is saying it's because what's left of the cultural structure that kept female hypergamy in check has broken down. Biologically they're no different than women of previous generations. What is different is that there's no longer any disincentive for their Chad chasing. It's yet another symptom of our rapidly rotting culture.
I would posit that women's hypergamy is a constant and that the girls you describe simply have had zero cultural messaging that would influence them in the direction of curbing it. Prior generations had more messaging in that regard, even millenials had some lingering societal sentiments filtering in that "hey, sleeping around and being disloyal at the first opportunity isn't a good thing". Gen Z? I doubt they've even heard of such concepts growing up, so the raw female instinct to always ditch your man for a better one is now manifesting in full.
But yeah, shit is absolutely fucked and I suspect there will be entire generations ruined before the issue starts being addressed.
Sometimes I wish I was a gen Z guy, only because getting my dick sucked would be much more common than it was in my youth. I have heard that gen Z girls don't consider blow jobs sex.
Funny -- it's been a decade but yet I believe that was the same conclusion I reached as a 2nd year graduate student in Sociology -- I resigned and left academia, convinced that the esoteric bullshit would take a little bit longer to take root.
This ideology is a one way trip over the precipice - and nothing has changed my mind.
It only got accelerated because social media allowed it and didn't enforce the kind of MUH DISINFORMATION policies it does against right wing ideology.
Imagine if we had a social media that actually suppressed/controlled far left grievance politics cult like ideology spam instead of openly supporting and allowing it.
After November's sham election I'm ready for the collapse, and the growing number of incels is probably what's going to tip us over edge. It's going to be glorious watching these pampered leftists get kicked off their thrones and have to fend for themselves for once in their lives.
Is strange someone would admit it. Is hard to find anything they apply to incels that does not apply to women. The fear men will rape them and that the world is filled with glass ceilings.
The only difference is that women are being pampered by society while incels are demonized.
The number of incels will only continue to grow as the level of female hypergamy only continues to increase. Gen Z women might surprisingly be even worse than millenial women when it comes to hypergamy.
The truth is that all young women and many older women score high on interpersonal victimhood.
The only difference is that society is very gynocentric so woman are universally praised for exhibiting interpersonal victimhood while men are outright mocked and shamed if they do so.
Western society is vile in that it judges the entire value of men on how much sex they are having. So many incels have serious mental health problems because they feel immensely frustrated that they are having no sex at all
The red pill movement attempted to help incels increase their sexual marketplace value. It may have helped a few incels break out of inceldom but for many, self development is just not going to change their overall position thanks to hypergamy.
Societal instability will accelerate as more and more men are relegated to being incels.
Straight, White men are shamed for doing so.
Black man has interpersonal victimhood? Das right!
Jewish man has interpersonal victimhood? Of course! Look at history. Jewish people are ALWAYS victimized.
Gay man has interpersonal victimhood? Makes sense, look at what "the community" has been through.
Not disagreeing that women don't get MORE of a pass than the men of their respective groups but society does extend this sympathy to SOME men.
Important to realize how certain male victimhood is allowed. It is allowed if it is about being a member of a protected group.
If it is about being an incel, good luck with that!
A black incel or a Jewish incel is not going to be receiving any sympathy just like how a White incel is not going to be receiving any sympathy.
Yes certain groups are treated differently than Whites but all preferential treatment ends when an individual of a protected group is an incel.
Being an incel overrides one's protected group status.
Not if the dude in question is pretending to be a woman. Like all crimes against feminism it's only a problem for them if the perp in lower on the progressive pecking order than the victim.
Look at the adjectives you had to put before the word man. Those are what do it, not because they are men. I would argue that they still get less sympathy than women even with these adjectives.
This point needs to be given a great deal more attention than it gets. When men have no prospects, they have no reason to put in any effort or contribute. Society will fall apart if enough men stop contributing, but no one seems to be concerned about that.
I disagree that it's women's hypergamy increasing, rather I would posit that it's no longer subject to any culturally imposed limitations. This is obviously going to lead to disaster, but the cultural attitude now is that ever telling a woman "no" is a sin. Society is going to go up in flames before this all corrected and it keeps me up at night.
Do you know any Gen Z girls? Hypergamy has reached critical mass among this age cohort.
They are some of the most entitled, hypocritical, narcissistic, indoctrinated and just downright vile human beings ever to live.
If your only options are dating and God forbid then marrying one of these girls versus being a depressed incel, being a depressed incel doesn't seem that bad in comparison.
You are absolutely correct about the severe magnitude of the overall societal threat that the rise in the incel phenomenon presents.
I am definitely not looking forward to what inevitably will happen in the future.
I have several gen Z nieces and each one is becoming exactly as you described.
Yes, but as u/MargarineMongoose is saying it's because what's left of the cultural structure that kept female hypergamy in check has broken down. Biologically they're no different than women of previous generations. What is different is that there's no longer any disincentive for their Chad chasing. It's yet another symptom of our rapidly rotting culture.
I would posit that women's hypergamy is a constant and that the girls you describe simply have had zero cultural messaging that would influence them in the direction of curbing it. Prior generations had more messaging in that regard, even millenials had some lingering societal sentiments filtering in that "hey, sleeping around and being disloyal at the first opportunity isn't a good thing". Gen Z? I doubt they've even heard of such concepts growing up, so the raw female instinct to always ditch your man for a better one is now manifesting in full.
But yeah, shit is absolutely fucked and I suspect there will be entire generations ruined before the issue starts being addressed.
Sometimes I wish I was a gen Z guy, only because getting my dick sucked would be much more common than it was in my youth. I have heard that gen Z girls don't consider blow jobs sex.
I don’t think that that is actually true. Studies seem to indicate that young people are actually having less sex in general.
Funny -- it's been a decade but yet I believe that was the same conclusion I reached as a 2nd year graduate student in Sociology -- I resigned and left academia, convinced that the esoteric bullshit would take a little bit longer to take root.
This ideology is a one way trip over the precipice - and nothing has changed my mind.
It only got accelerated because social media allowed it and didn't enforce the kind of MUH DISINFORMATION policies it does against right wing ideology.
Imagine if we had a social media that actually suppressed/controlled far left grievance politics cult like ideology spam instead of openly supporting and allowing it.
https://brighteyes.substack.com/p/the-fuck-rate-is-about-to-implode
Thanks for linking this!
This guy sums up the currently looming shitshow perfectly.
After November's sham election I'm ready for the collapse, and the growing number of incels is probably what's going to tip us over edge. It's going to be glorious watching these pampered leftists get kicked off their thrones and have to fend for themselves for once in their lives.
That's pretty funny. I'm also stunned they'd publish that more incels lean left than right.
Anyone with knowledge of the subs they had on reddit could have told you that. They had a massive overlap with r/politics
The number of "incels" were drastically smaller 25 years ago. Most older men in the west are likely to be married or divorced.
Young men make up a large portion of overall incels and young men in general lean more to the political left than the right.
I am not surprised by the findings.
Sure. And I know about Bunkerchan and ResetERA and places like that, these people aren't exactly winners. I'm just surprised they'd admit it.
Imagine the average lefty. Now think about how attractive the average lefty is to women.
Relevant
Soy is repulsive to women. So is simping. It's little wonder that incels tend to be leftists.
The incel to trans pipeline is real.
Look up the researcher's background. He's in Evo Psych. Evo Psych grads are pretty based.
Pretty much the definition of being male in today's society.
Especially a white male. It's even worse if you're also straight.