Off topic, but I got offered a promotion. Said promotion requires me to move a couple states away; a few days drive. It will help my career down the long run but requires me to say good bye to friends and family and is last second. Has anyone moved cross country for a job before, and if so, was it worth it in the long run?
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Are you happy where you are to the point of staying? Is the place you're moving to blue?
You're too vague to give any advice.
I want to move up in the company so I can eventually afford a house as the area I am in is getting expensive. Plus, I have been doing the same thing over and over again for years and the area I am in there is very little, if any ability to be promoted with the company I work at. I have looked at getting another job but there isn't a whole lot of high paying jobs out here, plus a lot of local companies are currently on a hiring freeze. I an happy in the area I am in aside from everything having greatly increased in price. The state is red, but an onslaught of people moving has built the area up and greatly increased the price of wverything.
Company loyalty is a meme from a society that has been dead since before I was born. Your goal should be to move up in your career, not your company.
This right here. Even the CEOs know this and hopscotch between companies for their payouts and accolades.
Normally The quickest way to get a payrise is to leave and join another company.
Companies don’t reward loyalty at all.
I have been with my current company 7 years, and in that time I volunteered for every extra duty, I worked overtime, and I covered for other people. I found out last week that the promotion that I interviewed for (to get the pay for the job that I've been doing) went to someone who didn't even put in for the position.
Have loyalty to your family, your friends, and the numbers in your bank account. The company can go fuck itself.
A hard lesson for sure.
Remember, they can ignore your contributions,sacrifice, and reputation. They cannot ignore your skills.
In my case, my director has ignored my skills. Too bad she had her assistant tell me to clean up the document vault. 😇
Is the area moving to blue or a blue state? If so, don't do it. If not, getting new experiences is what life is about.
On your deathbed are you going to be talking about that big promotion you got? Or the time spent with friends
Monthly is getting worth less, ambition is more often met with punishment. Might as well try to keep the good times going before they lock everyone down again
How old are you? What career are you in?
You don't sound very enthusiastic about that. Friends and family are a real deal over a lifetime. You didn't tell us why you want the job except for the 'promotion'.
More info is more better.
33, warehouse management. I have quite a few friends out here and have already moved for the job once before. I want to move up in the company so I can eventually afford a house as the area I am in is getting expensive. Plus, I have been doing the same thing over and over again for years and the area I am in there is very little, if any ability to be promoted with the company I work at. I have looked at getting another job but there isn't a whole lot of high paying jobs out here, plus a lot of local companies are currently on a hiring freeze.
Considering all that, I'd move.
But I'm sure others will disagree.
If you're in warehouse management, then I assume your eventual goal is to end up in a position like Operations Director, or COO? Unless you plan to start your own business of course. There probably aren't going to be many positions higher unless you're going from a company with a single warehouse to a company with multiple warehouses.
Hiring freezes are becoming quite common in the industry I work in (IT distribution) - many companies believe we're in for at least another 12 months of economic hardship and are battening down the hatches in preparation. You might not see another opportunity like this come up again quickly.
I've done something similar in my past - moved from one state to another for career purposes. It took time and effort to build up a social network in the new city, but it was worth it for me - I still live here years later, and now have a family, house, etc. I do miss the city I grew up in, but looking back, I absolutely made the right decision to move.
Hope this helps.
With communications being what it is these days you will be able to keep in touch with your friends and family quite easily. As long as you get reasonable holidays from the job you can pop back and visit easily enough.
I've lived in 5 different continents and always manage to make new friends and have adventures while keeping in touch with my family and friends from before.
Take the risk would be my advice.
Not worth it. I moved across country for a job and left my family and friends behind. One friend comitted suicide and my brother died and I moved back because I wanted to be close to people again. Biggest regret of my life was moving for a job. ONly move across country if you have no one you care about to leave behind. Don't fall for this bullshit culture of having no connections and just abandoning people for a stupid job.
Had a family member move internationally for a promotion once. It was fine, but they're very social and I think the loss of social circle was pretty tough on them, and the new position didn't really lead anywhere else as fast as they'd hoped, eventually they took a lateral position change a few years later to get back home. That position turned out to be nothing like what they agreed to, and they left the company shortly after for a pay downgrade to a job in their original field that they actually enjoy. The experience with that international role probably helped them look better, but was by no means necessary for the role and level they ended up.
So it's doable, just be careful you don't move away from it all for just great expectations. Take it only on the merits of what it is right now and the immediate, tangible career benefits, not future trainings and projects, just what you're moving into right now. Stuff like that has a tendency to shift away from what you were promised very easily.
I've done it a couple times. The first time ended up being a real struggle because I didn't make any friends, and I missed my old ones and my parents. But I did find my wife, which has given me more than my career ever could.
You're about the age I was when I first dropped everything for a job. There's no right answer. I'm glad I made the decision but there's a lot I miss from home.
I did it in my 20s with no regrets, left friends and family and by myself in a new place. I'd do it again at that point in my life. I wouldn't now. I'm too old and antisocial to want to start all that over.
One key thing, I moved somewhere I intended to stay long term. I've moved around a bit like suburbs, etc., but been in the same general area most of my adult life. So my suggestion would be only consider moving if it's somewhere you can see yourself living in 10 or 20 years or whatever. I turned down a couple blue shitholes before moving here, and at the time not even for politics, they were just places I'd been to I could see myself living in happily.
I would, personally.
If those friends are true friends, they’ll likely still be there/will make an effort to stay in touch. And you can always come back and visit, as others have pointed out!
In the end, I probably wouldn’t make the decision based on the promotion itself, but more on whether you are truly happy where you are, and we get her you think… It will be “worth it” to move, which it sounds like you do.
Personally, I think you’ll probably regret it more if you don’t take this chance, but clearly others disagree.
But yeah, if I was in your shoes, I would absolutely make the move.
It is worth it. Also, this is why I like email and Facebook. You can stay connected if you want.
Moving cities is a huge amount of stress. It is much better if you have a network to soften the landing; but it is stressful either way.
I moved a couple states away to a bigger city. I made friends right away, but my first lasting friendship took nearly a year to make. That was rough. I came back three years later.
In general travel broadens the mind. Living in a dump apartment doing a repetitive job and trying to save money, not so much.
If you don't have a partner, or any major attachments you could go for it. You might as well start looking for moves into other roles or other companies. If you are willing to move, then you might as well cast a broad net.
Just my $0.02.
That really depends on how much money is being offered. If it's less than $75k I wouldn't do it.
It has to be worth the sacrifice of not being with friends and family.
I'm 34yo and I have lived in 8 different cities my whole life. I've moved for work 4 times.
It wasn't worth it.
Moving for work usually ends poorly. Most careers are just going to scam you. Put out a big hook and then under deliver. This is especially true if you're moving in hopes of landing something better. Don't do it. You won't land what you want. If the company truly has intentions of moving you up you can negotiate for exactly what you want right now. Anyone who says you need a bit more experience or whatever is scamming you. Otherwise, if they're being honest, get it in writing. Promotion to x job title and salary after 1 year of work. In writing.
Moving to get away from politics in your area is usually an abysmal failure. As much as people like to pretend there's a huge difference between blue states and red states for politics. There really isn't. Some of the most leftist idiots I've met have been in the heart of the most conservative areas. Some of the most based people I've met have been in blue hellholes. Oftentimes what matters is the company too. Most big corps you might work for that you'd move for are woke as shit and that makes it a pain to work for them no matter where you're located.
I just really wouldn't recommend it. If you're bored and want to try something then sure. Also, owning a home with no family to put in it is pretty worthless. I know, I own a 3 bedroom home. It's just me. Most rooms don't even have furniture in them. Why would I bother? Investment? Hah, that's a laugh. It's a risk like anything else. Just because it's property doesn't guarantee it'll go up and they are a pain to get rid of if you ever need to.
Long term plan for better position later is always more important than now. The weak and the lazy are afraid of ambition and paying the price of success because it is hard and inconvenient. Take the path that leads to your best END game. That's what I've always done and I have a house, a truck, a gaming pc worth as much as a small car and can casually drink 300$ bottles of triple malt scotch. And I'm not even retired yet. Oh, but you will suffer for it now. Just remember that, you don't get the rewards until later.
I think it would depend on how much and where.
Moving is a pain, but my experience has been your average happiness doesn't change very much.
I think if you tell us which state you'd be moving TO, people would be in a much better position to tell you what that state is LIKE, what you might enjoy and what to avoid.
No, it gives the company too much leverage over you.