Confiscate My Rifle at Wounded Knee
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Hasn’t that stat he is quoting been debunked? Or isn’t he manipulating numbers?
The 90s saw a drop in crime across the board as the feds, states and local governments got "tough on crime". 1994 was the year of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, which was passed with the support of black leaders but is now called racist. Not sure what numbers this guy is using specifically because mass shooting has no agreed definition, but I guarantee wherever he got them it doesn't tell the story he thinks it does if you dig into it.
Spez: There was a time in America when a kid of any age could buy a BAR and a case of dynamite at his local hardware store, yet indiscriminate spree murders weren't a thing. The real question is what has happened to cause young men to so thouroughly reject society they decide it would be better to kill everyone around them.
What's a BAR? Obviously you're not talking about a place to drink beer.
Browning Automatic Rifle
The civilian BAR has an entirely different mechanism IIRC.
Correct, they're similar in name only.
The BAR evolved into the FN MAG(M240).
I've actually never seen the movie! But thank you.
I can't see how an assault rifle would significantly affect "mass shootings" in such a fashion - most such shootings were conducted with handguns rather than an assault rifle, were they not?
True. And I thought assault rifles were banned or fully automatic machine guns that the media seems to talk about endlessly. You can tell when a shooting is done by handgun how quickly it’s out of the news cycle
I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly, but no assault rifles aren't banned or fully automatic guns. Assault rifles are just those that have a feature that the government deems to look scary like a pistol grip or a folding stock. Semi-automatic rifles, which is all you need, were legal the whole time.
Honestly, I can see magazine restrictions, presuming they are obeyed, as with any gun control, reducing casualties in mass shootings. Just simple math that if you have to reload more you are going to be able to shoot fewer people. That said a magazine is one of the simplest things in the world to construct. Seems like you could easily 3d print one, minus the spring.
Ironically, and for the same reason, I don't think automatic weapons (or machine guns as the gov't refers to them) are that dangerous. You can put a lot of rounds downrange, but you tend to hit fewer things, and you chew through ammo, so you have to reload and potentially run out faster. This is why firing in full auto mode, while most military rifles are capable of it, is discouraged for troops.
Reloading takes very little time if you practice, and generally even less time if you treat magazines as disposable.
Sure, I mean, someone with better training is always going to be more effective than someone without. Still, better tools = more death. There are people that can reload revolvers really fast.
guns in general are a force multiplier. If you're going to use that argument, you might as well ban guns entirely...
You said it much better. Thanks.
You're thinking of "assault weapon". Assault rifle means select fire (capable of auto or burst) magazine fed rifle in an intermediate cartridge.
Yes, sorry that is what I meant.
As I recall they're not banned but you have to pay a $200 tax and undergo enhanced vetting to be allowed to purchase such a weapon.
Do you also need an FFL to purchase automatic weapons?
You do not need an FFL to purchase a machine gun registered before 1986, when the registry was closed. This means there is a relatively small number of them available and it can only get smaller as they wear out, although it is not uncommon for people to secretly, and illegally, make new recievers to keep them running.
Post-1986 machine guns require an FFL with a SOT, which is a special license to deal in NFA items. If you aren't actively conducting buisness with the guns, the ATF will take your license and you'll have to sell any NFA items.
The day Larry Vickers' SOT lapsed, they showed up and seized everything.
Would be fun to do shit like Brandon Herrera does and just buy/convert/build from scratch everything you want.
Larry Vickers is too based for the ATF.
It’s a fake argument. “Assault weapons” did not account for the drop or incline. It would be like me saying everytime I take a shit during a football game the team I favor scores more. While that could be empirically true no one actually believes me pooping will make the team I like play better.
It's closer to "ice cream sales cause drownings".
A government becoming more totalitarian WILL reduce crime, to a certain breaking point. Part of that totalitarianism could be gun grabbing. As pointed out in a post above, the timeline they quote ALSO had massive draconian (and nowadays labelled "racist") crime reforms that were likely the real primary contributor to the criminality stat: Both "variables" were results from a third related variable.
Much like high temperature causes both more people swimming and thus drowning, as well as ice cream sales, they can be correlated, they ARE correlated, but they're both caused by a third agent. Buying ice cream won't result in someone drowning, and drowning someone won't result in Haagan Dasz's stock price going up. Draconian governments feel no guilt at stopping random people in the street and strip-searching them for drugs or weapons, reducing crimes related to these things. Likewise, draconian governments grab guns.
It's a minor but important distinction from your example, where the variables aren't actually really correlated at all.
I mean... he said two random numbers without any correlation and thought he was making a point? It's less that he's manipulating numbers and more that he just uncontrollably spewed vomit onto his keyboard.
It's all made up.
To be fair I'm not entirely sure what the forward assist does either.
Eugene Stoner says it makes jams into disasters.
wth do they call it?
Perhaps the easiest distinction is between small arms and crewed weapons. A gun (like a machine gun or a field artillery piece) has multiple operators rather than just one.
I guess they can use whatever terminology they want, but in my mind anything with a barrel and an explosive propellant is a gun. It's kind of like the government misusing the term machine gun. I can't stop them, but it doesn't change what machine gun actually means.
I thought your rifle was for shooting and your gun was for fun?
After a weekend firing dirty blanks from a rifle that was dirty to begin with it allows you to close the bolt when you manually cycle the action to reload after clearing the weapon to get chow. Said rifle would cycle normally when firing said blanks though.
It creates controversy.
LaKoTa MaN is a pile of shit retard idiot.
At the time, what were the number of mass shootings outside of gang violence? So Columbine had a ton of controversy around it, where did they get all the weapons? Why was there only limited amounts of footage?
Why in the hell would you trust anything the Criminal Clinton gang does? Bill Clinton had children killed, he enabled more cocaine to be trafficked into the US than probably any other person up until that point.
My point is, that Columbine wouldn't have happened if Clinton wasn't the president. And since those kids got those weapons on the black market, no weapon ban in the world could have stopped it.
LaKoTa MaN, again, is a fucking retard, and should stay locked up on the REZ, so he can maybe understand why it's important to be armed, and why the 2A is there for us, the citizens.
FUCK THAT GUY.
Maybe LaKoTa MaN can time travel, since he's so brilliant, and go and disarm all the indians who dared stand up to the US army, and the Railroad tycoons back in the day.
I know another guy who's "Lakota", equally retarded, hates white people with a passion, yet sucked up to certain white people, truly pathetic. Lakota people can't all be this retarded.
His ancestors, if he actually does have any blood quantum, would be appalled the he's simping for the US government and "settlers" a century later.
Exactly.
lol wat? Bro, the Indians were dancing to their gods to enact a white genocide while being given endless handouts from white people. This was around the same time that natives were cashing in woodfire recipes at record low prices and killing livestock of settlers while the government was trying to get the indians off welfare. Muh fucking peaceful Pocahontas people.
Skip to 44:10 if you want an account of what ACTAULLY happened. Short version: they refused to turn in a rye sucker who was killing and robbing settlers and proceeded to gun down soldiers, firing first after a lengthy speech by one of the tribal about killing white men.
hahaha, i was making a point from his ignorant perspective. Pointing out the irony in his behavior, like would he be saying that about his tribe in taking away their weapons.
And here's the official Army account (Atlas of the Sioux Wars):
You forget the part where they were starving, and this is not what happened at all (there was no attempt to arrest anyone in particular but just a scuffle over one rifle with a deaf guy leading to a discharge, after most rifles have been handed over, there was no "lengthy speech" only one guy dancing around and shouting in a trance, and "robbing soldiers" was capturing weapons to shoot back, at first using knives in the melee in the gunsmoke because again they have been disarmed before they were fired upon and actually the soldiers also likely hit each other).
The guy made up his story, pulled it from his ass.
Here's one actual account (Encyclopedia Britannica):
In the mentioned aftermath ambush, they were trapped in a narrow canyon and would have been massacred in turn if the (other) cavalry didn't come to rescue. This was less then 24 hours later. They were some really poor soldiers under really bad command.
wounded knee injuns deserved it for acting like modern day ghetto ethnics
Oh please, everyone knows that's the safety on that kind of AK style pistol.
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