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AI is being used for homework, and it's passing (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +26 / -0
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– acp_k2win 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Good, 99% of essay work is bullshit.

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– MegoThor 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

99% of school work is bullshit.

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– Chillin_in_PNW 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Ain't it great how they teach you fucking nothing about how to live as a adult? Almost like it was designed to make you fail....

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– BegrudgingBrit 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Teaching you how to live as an adult is your parents' job

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– MargarineMongoose 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

They didn't do too well either judging by the current state of society.

It's the tragedy of the commons where everyone assumes someone else is taking care of it.

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– BegrudgingBrit 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You're right, of course, but we need to make sure our efforts are directed at the people who are supposed to do it and are failing, and not the people who simply aren't picking up the slack

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– dagthegnome 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

It's designed to turn you into a mindless little worker drone who knows how to do nothing other than sit still for hours on end doing low-grade clerical work.

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– cartoonericroberts 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

“[The text] is not copied from somewhere else, it’s produced by a machine, so plagiarism checking software is not going to be able to detect it and it’s not able to pick it up because the text wasn’t copied from anywhere else,” Veletsianos told Motherboard.

Was this an interview with an AI text generator?

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– Guyven 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

If I were them, I'd avoid this story. I've read many a 'journalistic' article that seemed like a head-trauma patient wrote it. They'll fail whatever test they propose.

However, I reckon where this is really going is academic monitoring software installed on all your personal devices. Schools have already been pushing spyware shit that lets them activate your webcam and scan your room (even in college dorms). Now they'll want every file on your harddrive in case you're hiding an evil AI somewhere.

Evolve with the times. Standardized education was always a game to be beaten.

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– TriangleGang 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If I were them, I'd avoid this story. I've read many a 'journalistic' article that seemed like a head-trauma patient wrote it. They'll fail whatever test they propose.

So, what you're saying is that, in addition to writing term papers, this software could be used to replace "journalists"? That sounds slike an improvement!

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– GeneralBoobs 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

What the fucking point of essays anyways?

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– current_horror 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

The point is to establish competence. Can you produce something, to spec, on time.

If you want to know the value of such an exercise, just look at all the people who can’t do it.

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– OmegaBird 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I have doctoral writing skills and a lexicon that staggers the average folk. I write literature as a passion and even I agree that essays and most school work are useless nonsense. Everything up to collage should be how to pay taxes, cook, change a tire, fix things around the house and so on. Beyond that is for academia.

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– OldBullLee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Knowing how to write and therefore reason at a college level takes at least the elementary school years to develop.

The failure of K-12 schools to improve overall literacy has resulted in universities dumbing down entry requirements and course writing requirements.

This, in turn, has contributed to the collapse of higher ed, which is being accelerated by the critical studies indoctrination scandal.

It seems to work like this: The less literate the incoming classes, the more gullible they are to neo-Marxist indoctrination, not having read anything besides pop fiction or comic books, if that.

It is impossible to advance an illiterate person to fluency in one course like freshman composition; in fact, people buy their degrees while not being able to write as well as a high-schooler.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The only thing I recall learning from it was how to get good at procrastinating and fabricating a bunch of linguistic bullshit.

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– GeneralBoobs 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If an AI can do what they are supposed to do those people are useless and are easily replaced.

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– Vicenzo 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

To write well. Digest information. Recreate it through understanding and demonstrate that.

Now it's just a check the box that most students get passed through anyway. That's why nobody can spell anything or understand how to read anything either.

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– GeneralBoobs 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That's down to mass production education. The so-called teachers are nothing but workers on an assembly line passing these retards from one point to another until they can be handed the diploma that shows they've done nothing but spew the party line.

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– OldBullLee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

To demonstrate the degree of someone's literacy, fluency, and ability to reason.

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– NotMacgyver 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I'll be honest, if the homework wasn't done by the end of class I would never do it (projects excluded of course since those sometimes required you to do stuff you couldn't at school)

School work is to be done at school, if they wanted overtime they can at least pay me for it. That said 12 year old me would probably value the time off more than money but given enough money even he would do his homework.

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– CatoTheElder 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

People overvalue writing and undervalue mathematics anyways.

The reason the powers that be panic about illiteracy and not innumeracy is because if a person is illiterate they cannot consume propaganda. If a person is innumerate they cannot refute it.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I wonder what the critical mass of total illiteracy might be to advance us officially into another Dark Age.

This tool is accelerating the illiteracy rate, no matter how much "busywork" it might eliminate.

To write well you need to read quite a bit. To even think rationally requires a certain level of fluency. It doesn't take much to be merely functionally literate (able to read ads, public signage, and bureaucratic forms) but if this is what most people aspire to, we are on the way to being even more cattle-like in our deference to those who control our lives and, increasingly, dictate what we think and believe.

An illiterate population is a subservient population.

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